My wife and I both just started vaping and have been very surprised by peoples reactions... Most have been very curious and then supportive once we explained what it was. Her boss who is a health freak was even fine with her vaping at her desk. I have even gotten two friends to start! I say spread the word!
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I think we should care what people think since it does involve them when we vape in public. Most people don't even know what a pv/e-cigarette is let alone what that "smoke" coming out is?
To be honest I'm a bit confused about the vapor. Could it be harmful to others? I've read many times on here and elsewhere for example that it's "just water vapor" which is just plain wrong IMO. I'm sure there's more than just water! I am new to this but I don't believe that there is empirical evidence either way on this subject.
I guess since I am so new I want to be sure I know what I'm saying if I ever decide to vape in front of strangers for example. So, for now I just vape like I smoked cigarettes, except for home where choose to do it inside!
To be honest I'm a bit confused about the vapor. Could it be harmful to others? I've read many times on here and elsewhere for example that it's "just water vapor" which is just plain wrong IMO. I'm sure there's more than just water! I am new to this but I don't believe that there is empirical evidence either way on this subject.
I guess since I am so new I want to be sure I know what I'm saying if I ever decide to vape in front of strangers for example. So, for now I just vape like I smoked cigarettes, except for home where choose to do it inside!
No problem. I use to assume the same thing. We need to know the enemy and what their motivation is. It's definitely not "save the children". It's pure money and greed and a blatant disregard for the health of people addicted to smoking.
The FDA tested cartridges from SE as part of their defense in their lawsuit. They found NO carcinogenic substances in the cartridges except in two of them. Of those two, the percentage of TSNA's was less than 1% which is the same amount found in nicotine gum and patches. I would suggest going to the CASSA web site: CASAA | The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association as they have several links to studies and medical professional opinions. There is also the study by an anti-smoking doctor in New Zealand that you should read: Laugeson Interview Part 2.
The information is there, we just need to read it and be willing to educate those around us!!!!
Good luck with vaping.
I've just started vaping a little over 2 weeks ago, and I catch myself hiding my 510. I feel like kid again, sneaking a smoke! Hopefully, I'll get over it, but it's great to know I'm not the only one that feels funny toking on a black stick with a blue light! For the first couple of days, I would even hide it from my kids and there friends (all adults). Now what am I going to do with this xpower? lol
From the outset, I've always been open about vaping in public. Especially at the pubs I adopt the "ask forgiveness rather than permission" model. I also go out of my way to head over to tables or people who seem to be looking at me strangely and explain how PV's and Vapes work. At my favorite pub, the servers actually do the job for me, and inform other bar patrons who have questions because I've educated them. Be open, Inform people, Don't be shy.
I just started but have been vaping everywhwere, even the grocery store. I've been hoping someone has something to say, but not a soul has even approached nor aknowledged the vaping.
Mistress~ I pull out my GGTS w/AVS (huge mod) anywhere I want, sure I get people asking or thinking I'm smoking pot or something, but I have nothing to hide and once I explain it most are pretty cool about it(even the cops lol)
So far from my experience the non smokers don't seem to care. it is current and ex smokers who get up in arms about it. The smokers get mad because they don't think it's fair I get to smoke inside and they don't and the ex smokers get mad because they think it is "still smoking". Several instances have happened that show me this. The only time a nonsmoker has said anything to me it was, "oh cool is that one of those electronic things? Good for you! Quitting smoking is a good decision."
Hmmm, started vaping about a month and a half ago. I'm pretty public about it. I vape here at work with a non smoker/antismoker sitting next to me as I type. He could care less about vaping. The most annoying was back at a party where we were all drinking around a bonfire out in the woods. Everyone thought the worse lol. After explaining a few people wanted to try it and were happy, others just thought it was weird. Hate to see this coming weekend when they see the shiny new screwdriver. I have also vaped in non smoking restaeraunts but it the bathroom privately. I've always looked at it as you let cars drive past you putting out thousands of PPM of carbon Monoxide and don't complain to everyone of them drivers, now leave me alone lol.
I have been vaping for a month now and some of my coworkers (non-smokers) have made a few comments and made fun about my Silver Bullet, but I tell them I don't give a crap what they say about it as long as it gets/keeps me off analogs it is serving it's purpose. They can poke fun all they want. Some of the smokers have tried a few of my flavors etc. but they are older and not very receptive to the idea but I am going to keep working on em and maybe they will come around in time. I have been and will continue to vape in public and if I can educate a few people about the benefits along the way, even better!
Take care all and keep on Vaping!!
Take care all and keep on Vaping!!
I vape at work all the time, I have one coworker who makes it a daily point to ask me what flavor I have today, and comments on how nice the vapor smells. My boss came running in one day and ask me what is that thing, and I told him it was my personal vaporizer that delivers a small amount of nicotine in the vapor. He said thats just a way to cheat, but he never said anything about not using it so I just took it to mean its ok, and kept on vapping.
Yeah, that's true, and extremely irritating. I just want to be left alone. Seems impossible sometimes.
I'm willing to bet a mod won't help matters. But oh well. Tired of killing eGo's. My second one is starting to struggle now, and if a shiny metal tube will stop that from happening, so be it. I'll just be compelled to roll my eyes a few extra times per day.
I have been vaping out in public, and I have been confronted on more than a few occasions.
I think part of the issue is that the word "cigarette" has a horrible connotation associated with it so people instantly think "OMG WTF SMELLY BURNING CANCER DEATH STICK JERK FACE SECOND HAND SMOKE ANTI SMOKING LAW!"
Whenever I say "personal vaporizer" and what it is for people are very interested and happy it exists.
Whenever I say "e-cigarette" people have continued to freak out and tell me
A: I need to go outside, "you still can't do that here" or
B: That its "no better than smoking because you are still inhaling it".
I think part of the issue is that the word "cigarette" has a horrible connotation associated with it so people instantly think "OMG WTF SMELLY BURNING CANCER DEATH STICK JERK FACE SECOND HAND SMOKE ANTI SMOKING LAW!"
Whenever I say "personal vaporizer" and what it is for people are very interested and happy it exists.
Whenever I say "e-cigarette" people have continued to freak out and tell me
A: I need to go outside, "you still can't do that here" or
B: That its "no better than smoking because you are still inhaling it".
That's pretty much the essence of the unanswerable question that was tossed around in a previous thread.
I'm sure that sheer rebelliousness is an issue for a few, but the more rational counterpoint is that restricting one's vaping to non-smoking areas is a tacit admission that we belong in the same leper colonies as smokers, that the vapor we exhale contains the same toxins as tobacco smoke, that as long as act like smokers, vaping will be dismissed in intellectually lazy, non-smoking minds as a gimmick--yet another scheme by smokers to avoid the regulation, taxation, persecution and general damnation they deserve.
That argument can't be dismissed out of hand, as can't the other: that belligerent, in-your-face vaping as a statement of one's personal right to do so will only slam the door on whatever openness of mind as may still exist. It's a classic catch-22.
There's a middle ground, here.
Ask first, and be polite.
I always ask first. In restaurants, coffee houses, even on a train. Think of it like not wearing a shirt - you have the right to do it, but establishments also have the right to not let you in. It's not about legality. It's about the choices of that establishment. They have a right to not allow you to do something, even if it's legal.
Those who know what e-cigs are have always given me an uninhibited "yes." Those who don't, I have explained it to, and then they give me an uninhibited "yes."
I have, in fact, never been told I couldn't vape.
Once I get that "yes," I vape politely. I don't take power-drags, like I do at home or outside. I take smaller drags, and hold them for just a touch longer, so the vapor is less. I don't go as far as stealth vaping, but I also don't let my vapor trail float into other people's space.
Doing this, I have never gotten a negative reaction.
People who don't know what vaping is, get to see me vaping, notice that it doesn't smell like cigs, and that what I'm vaping actually doesn't look quite like a cig. After getting permission, and vaping politely, they also see that it is non-invasive, and in their minds, they move me slightly outside of the "box" they put smokers in.
Smokers ask me where they can get one, non-smokers ask me what smells like cupcakes, and everybody's happy.
That's one way we can give vaping positive press.
Ask first, and be polite.
I always ask first. In restaurants, coffee houses, even on a train. Think of it like not wearing a shirt - you have the right to do it, but establishments also have the right to not let you in. It's not about legality. It's about the choices of that establishment. They have a right to not allow you to do something, even if it's legal.
Those who know what e-cigs are have always given me an uninhibited "yes." Those who don't, I have explained it to, and then they give me an uninhibited "yes."
I have, in fact, never been told I couldn't vape.
Once I get that "yes," I vape politely. I don't take power-drags, like I do at home or outside. I take smaller drags, and hold them for just a touch longer, so the vapor is less. I don't go as far as stealth vaping, but I also don't let my vapor trail float into other people's space.
Doing this, I have never gotten a negative reaction.
People who don't know what vaping is, get to see me vaping, notice that it doesn't smell like cigs, and that what I'm vaping actually doesn't look quite like a cig. After getting permission, and vaping politely, they also see that it is non-invasive, and in their minds, they move me slightly outside of the "box" they put smokers in.
Smokers ask me where they can get one, non-smokers ask me what smells like cupcakes, and everybody's happy.
That's one way we can give vaping positive press.
May I ask exactly what you say? Like it was mentioned - e cigarette still has the dreaded word......May I vape? what??
I actually do typically say "e-cigarette." Perhaps "personal vaporizer" would be a better strategy. The fact that I'm young, female, and nonthreatening may be influencing the response I get. I know I get a lot more lenience going through TSA than, say, a larger, older male.
"Is it alright if I use this here?" *hold up PV*
(If they ask what it is) "It's helping me quit smoking. It lets me take in nicotine without all the harmful chemicals, like the patch or the gum."
If they want to see me use it, I take a small, polite puff.
"Is it alright if I use this here?" *hold up PV*
(If they ask what it is) "It's helping me quit smoking. It lets me take in nicotine without all the harmful chemicals, like the patch or the gum."
If they want to see me use it, I take a small, polite puff.
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