Thank you so much Reverand, you put it all in a nutshell for me. That is all I have been trying to say, apparently making it way more complicated than I needed to. LOL 
Nicotine vs. Caffeine
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I used to drink Coke (the beverage!) daily for many years. One day, I decided to switch to drinking water for health reasons, but I never experienced any withdrawal symptoms. 
I don't have any cravings for it. I'm not a coffee drinker either.
I don't have any cravings for it. I'm not a coffee drinker either.
I used to drink Coke (the beverage!) daily for many years. One day, I decided to switch to drinking water for health reasons, but I never experienced any withdrawal symptoms.
LOL. And some people manage to smoke once or twice a day, and never get addicted either. I can't conceive of it, being an addict myself, but it's true nonetheless.
And as far as coffee goes - I cannot do without my two (very strong) cups at the start of my day. If I don't get them: Headache city. Zombie-like existence.
I drink a whole pile of coffee, but I don't think I'm all that addicted to it. Very dependent however, but if I can't get it I don't notice it. A friend of mine though gets headaches if he misses a day with coffee, and can't pee until he drinks it. Where I come from as well, it's not unheard of to drink about 10 cups of tea every day.
I'd say the real worry with caffeine is the hypertension risk in vulnerable people.
I like the angle discussed here that nicotine is a useful medicine though... I see there's much research ongoing. I know that a relative with schizophrenia gets a lot of relief by smoking because it regulates dopamine and the But I didn't think it could be an advocacy platform. You've seen the ads where they say "cigarettes contain nicotine, an insecticide" (it's an excellent one by the way, you should see the way e liquid clears my plants of greenfly), whereas they never say "cigarettes contain nicotine, a natural medicine".
The FDA idea that what we're using , even if it's technically correct, is a new drug is silly - the active ingredient is a plant derived oil used since the oldest mesoamerican cultures. Freebase or salt form, it's all ends up the same. I think it's a conflation of "drug - medicine" and "drug - body affecting substance". E-cigarettes are not indicated for anything, so why would they be medicines? Caffeine's subject to regulation on dosage in No-Doz, but where it's not on pharmacy shelves we can use it as we wish.
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I'd say the real worry with caffeine is the hypertension risk in vulnerable people.
I like the angle discussed here that nicotine is a useful medicine though... I see there's much research ongoing. I know that a relative with schizophrenia gets a lot of relief by smoking because it regulates dopamine and the But I didn't think it could be an advocacy platform. You've seen the ads where they say "cigarettes contain nicotine, an insecticide" (it's an excellent one by the way, you should see the way e liquid clears my plants of greenfly), whereas they never say "cigarettes contain nicotine, a natural medicine".
The FDA idea that what we're using , even if it's technically correct, is a new drug is silly - the active ingredient is a plant derived oil used since the oldest mesoamerican cultures. Freebase or salt form, it's all ends up the same. I think it's a conflation of "drug - medicine" and "drug - body affecting substance". E-cigarettes are not indicated for anything, so why would they be medicines? Caffeine's subject to regulation on dosage in No-Doz, but where it's not on pharmacy shelves we can use it as we wish.
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Here is a link to explain how much caffeine there is in popular soda versus coffee
How Much Caffeine in Drinks -- Coffee, Tea, Soft Drinks -- Caffeine Content
I quit soda in a day and it never bothered me. I think the whole argument with caffeine is that people aren't necesarilly addicted to it existing in the product as much as how much of a "jolt" a lot of it really gives you in one shot.
If I woke up one morning and ran out of coffee, I would not be tempted to drink soda for instance (unless it were Redbull maybe).
Soda though can be a tricky subject because maybe what kids are really addicted to in it (and what can make them hyperactive as well) is not necessarily the caffeine but perhaps moreso the high levels of sugar in it.
How Much Caffeine in Drinks -- Coffee, Tea, Soft Drinks -- Caffeine Content
I quit soda in a day and it never bothered me. I think the whole argument with caffeine is that people aren't necesarilly addicted to it existing in the product as much as how much of a "jolt" a lot of it really gives you in one shot.
If I woke up one morning and ran out of coffee, I would not be tempted to drink soda for instance (unless it were Redbull maybe).
Soda though can be a tricky subject because maybe what kids are really addicted to in it (and what can make them hyperactive as well) is not necessarily the caffeine but perhaps moreso the high levels of sugar in it.
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My grandmother smoked Woodbines cigarettes for 25 years and decided to quit one day and that was that. Though she claimed to never inhale.
I should point out that it isn't a conspiracy *THEORY* if the fascist A.S.H.[holes] are actually pushing to deprive us of our rights.
Smoking is a social ritual for most people, too.
Nicotine boosts productivity, too...more than caffeine! Are you not aware of the science?
It's also not a conspiracy since it isn't secret.
We should not use the term conspiracy. We should use the term AGENDA.
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