New to Vaping, want to know how to improve MTL Throat Hits

[Opalsk]

Hello,

I recently began vaping and have two mods: the Aegis Mini and the Smok Nord. While I began vaping using sub-ohm coils with big clouds, I have come to realize that what is most important to me is something that has a strong mouth to lung hit. I don't want to increase nicotine content beyond 6 mg, though.

I find that, with the Aegis Mini, even when I restrict the airflow significantly, I inhale too much too fast. I am currently using the Supermesh x2 0.2 ohm coils. I find the Smok Nord airflow is more to my liking. However, I like that I can adjust the temperature on the Aegis Mini.

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any modifications to the Aegis Mini (in terms of compatible coils with higher resistances and new tanks) that will enable me to improve my throat hit. I am also open to suggestions for new mods.

Also, I have read that buying e-liquid with a higher PG ratio will result in better throat hit. One thing is that the main thing I like about throat hit is a sort of punchy feeling when I inhale--it's not necessarily a burning or irritation in my throat. So, if increasing PG will do this, then I would like to look into it.

The only thing is, what VG/PG ratios are compatible with the coils I have now (1.4 ohm in Smok Nord, and 0.3 ohm in Aegis Mini).

Thanks.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, Opalsk. Increases to PG and nicotine levels are two ways to get more throat hit. Freebase nicotine rather than salt nic has more throat hit also, although there is several varieties of salt nic to provide more or less throat hit. I know even less about hardware options to increase throat hit.

 

[AshF83]

Hi and welcome to the forum.
You may be better off with a dedicated MTL tank that has a smaller chamber which will not only give you great flavour but also a punchier throat hit. Getting a good MTL TH from a tank which is catered for a restricted lung hit can be difficult and/or unsatisfying. Look for a tank which has a smaller hole under the coil for example. I look for tanks with a 1.2mm airhole below the coil which aids in giving me that draw and vacuum effect (chamber dependent of course). You can of course try to work with what you have but it is like driving a Ferrari economically, it won't do it well.

If you're into RBA's then the SpicaPro is excellent, as for clearomizers, have a look at the Zenith tank which I hear has had great reviews both for ease of use as well as an excellent MTL experience. Hope that helps and hope you find what you're looking for.
Ash

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[Anise]

Welcome to ECF! I'm a dl vaper so I'm not much help but you've gotten some good advice and I'm sure you'll get more.

 

[Baditude]

"Throat hit" is best achieved by increasing nicotine strength. Increasing pg (propylene glycol) ratio does to a smaller extent. Using nicotine freebase as opposed to nic salts gives more throat hit.

The Cerberus tank that comes with the Aegis line of mods is designed for direct-to-lung (loose draw) vapers. Turning the air control ring to almost no air flow comes the closest you can get to a mouth-to-lung (tight) draw. All of the coils for the Cerberus tank are designed for high-wattage, low-ohm, DTL vapings.

You could put a dedicated MTL tank on your Aegis in place of the Cerberus, like any of the below low wattage, high resistance tanks.

Innokin Zlide

Innokin Zenith

Aspire Nautilus X

Aspire Nautilus 2

 

[Vapemesilly]

More pg will help but the best way to increase throat hit is to increase the nic. I know the OP doesn't want to increase the nic but if the throat is real important...

 

[Izan]

Hello,

I recently began vaping and have two mods: the Aegis Mini and the Smok Nord. While I began vaping using sub-ohm coils with big clouds, I have come to realize that what is most important to me is something that has a strong mouth to lung hit. I don't want to increase nicotine content beyond 6 mg, though.

How long did you smoke and how many per day?
If you are just beginning, focus on eliminating the cigarettes. IMO, a higher nicotine level will be needed for your MTL vape.

I am currently using the Supermesh x2 0.2 ohm coils....However, I like that I can adjust the temperature on the Aegis Mini.

You will never get a proper MTL vape from that tank with those mesh coils , also note that the mesh coils are not temperature control compatible, they are to be used in wattage or bypass mode.

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any modifications to the Aegis Mini (in terms of compatible coils with higher resistances and new tanks) that will enable me to improve my throat hit. I am also open to suggestions for new mods.

The Mod is fine, as suggested, purchase a proper MTL topper/tank.

Also, I have read that buying e-liquid with a higher PG ratio will result in better throat hit. One thing is that the main thing I like about throat hit is a sort of punchy feeling when I inhale--it's not necessarily a burning or irritation in my throat.

Yes, yes it is.


Cheers
I

 

[QcVaper]

I find that, with the Aegis Mini, even when I restrict the airflow significantly, I inhale too much too fast. I am currently using the Supermesh x2 0.2 ohm coils. I find the Smok Nord airflow is more to my liking. However, I like that I can adjust the temperature on the Aegis Mini.

1st of all, although some may say differently, get mtl coils that .2 you're using is far from being made to mtl these recquire lots of watts and airflow.

2nd you talked about temp, are you using a temp control coil ? If you're using a coil for your tank it's made of kanthal most likely which IS NOT made for temp control.
PG would increase throat hit, but having more nic in your juice would help aswell (i started with 12mg 50/50 no salts back then)

Feel free to disagree all you want, you'll never get a better mtl vape than with a mtl setup which the Geekvape is NOT made for.

 

[Opalsk]

I really appreciate all the replies. A couple of clarifications. I’m not really a regular smoker, but I like to smoke when I go to casinos. I also like to have a cigarette or two at the end of the day, so I guess 2 a day is what I’m ramping up to.

I guess I’m open to trying more nicotine. The highest I’ve tried is 6 mg, and too much makes me dizzy and I don’t like it. Is there anywhere I can buy a very small amount of 12 mg juice? Like, can I go to a vape shop and ask for a sample?

Also, I misspoke about varying the temperature—I meant the wattage.

So, it looks like I want to go get a MTL tank. One thing I’d like clarified is, when people say that the Aegis Mini is not going to provide a good MTL experience, they mean without purchasing an alternate tank, correct? There is no reason why it would be less than ideal if I got an appropriate tank, since it can go low-wattage.

 

[Izan]

I really appreciate all the replies...

So, it looks like I want to go get a MTL tank. One thing I’d like clarified is, when people say that the Aegis Mini is not going to provide a good MTL experience, they mean without purchasing an alternate tank, correct? There is no reason why it would be less than ideal if I got an appropriate tank, since it can go low-wattage.

The kit you bought consists of the mod/battery device and tank. The battery device IS the Aegis mini; the big air, high power DTL tank is the Cerberus Subohm Tank , as noted above by @Baditude .

You are correct that the aegis mini can be used with just about any 510 threaded tank from any manufacture.

A bottle of 12mg/ml juice, if too strong, can be mixed with your 6mg/ml to create any nicotine level from 6 to 12.
You can also do the same with 0mg/ml if the 6mg/ml becomes too strong.

HTH
I

 

[Falconeer]

Welcome to the forum!

IMHO the answer has aready been given - and I say this as one who smoked a pipe and inhaled the thing from 1974 until four years ago - a good MTL attie (Zenith/Zlide/ original Nautilus Mini) 16 -18 strength nic juice possibly with a bit of menthol vaped at anywhere between 6- 10 watts on a 1.6 ohm coil - sooked for a count of four, held for a count of four and relased for, guess what, a count of four.

If you go down the Zenith/Zlide route - you will find the first tank of juice will be a bit weak and wonky but thereafter it'll work fine.

As I've said maybe not the answer you seek ....

 

[AshF83]

I hope this helps explain.

For a good MTL experience, buy yourself a dedicated MTL tank as mentioned above.

The mod holds the battery.
The tank sits ontop of the mod and holds the juice/ houses the coil.

It's the tank you need buddy.

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[BrotherBob]

I have come to realize that what is most important to me is something that has a strong mouth to lung hit.

Welcome and glad you joined.
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I really appreciate all the replies.

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[MJCSD]

Hello and welcome to ecf

 

[Opalsk]

"Throat hit" is best achieved by increasing nicotine strength. Increasing pg (propylene glycol) ratio does to a smaller extent. Using nicotine freebase as opposed to nic salts gives more throat hit.

The Cerberus tank that comes with the Aegis line of mods is designed for direct-to-lung (loose draw) vapers. Turning the air control ring to almost no air flow comes the closest you can get to a mouth-to-lung (tight) draw. All of the coils for the Cerberus tank are designed for high-wattage, low-ohm, DTL vapings.

You could put a dedicated MTL tank on your Aegis in place of the Cerberus, like any of the below low wattage, high resistance tanks.

View attachment 863767 Innokin Zlide

Innokin Zenith

Aspire Nautilus X

Aspire Nautilus 2

Thanks so much for this reply. I did buy an Innokin Zenith, and it does seem quite a lot better when it comes to having a tighter draw. I am using a 1.6 ohm coil at between 10 and 18 Watts as it's rated for. I'm somewhat surprised at the rate it consumes battery and juice (shouldn't it use less power and juice than a sub-ohm DTL tank? Oh well, perhaps some of it is that the capacity of the tank is smaller so it just looks like it's going through juice faster).

Anyway, I purchased some higher nicotine blends (was vaping 3 mg 70 VG/30 PG, now have some 6 MG and 12 MG juices with the same ratios). I find the amount of nicotine too much for me, especially given how much I like puffing away with the vape (is there any safety issue with that, btw?). Anyway, I am getting ready to purchase some nicotine-free juice to mix in with my other juices so I can use them while not vaping too much nicotine.

One thing I had a question about is the ratio of VG/PG I should order in the juices. The site that I'm looking at says that 50/50 is optimal, whereas 70 VG/30 PG is for beginners. I had wanted to try a 50 PG / 50 VG mixture anyway, but I was wondering: is a 50/50 juice like this compatible with an MTL tank? I know that some coils tends to wick better than others.

Also, what is the difference between an atomizer versus a clearomizer?

Thanks.

 

[r77r7r]

50/50 has always run fine in my Zenith. Clearo and atomizer are just older descriptions of certain eliquid delivery devices. Nowadays it's simply tanks mostly. Rebuildable or drop-in coils.

 

[Baditude]

Also, what is the difference between an atomizer versus a clearomizer?

The term "atomizer" can have several meanings. In the broadest sense of the word, it is any "juice delivery attachment" on top of an e-cig battery device. More specifically, it is the name of the "heating coil" in that juice attachment.

There are several types of "atomizers" or juice attachements. Cartomizers, clearomizers, 510 drip atomizers, rebuildable drip atomizers, and rebuildable tank atomizers.

Proper Terminology: Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Delivery Devices

 

[Opalsk]

Thanks for the info. So, I’m planning on ordering some e-liquid from a place that lets you mix your own flavors. They’re asking me if I want one shot, two shots, or three shots of flavor. Are there safety or health implications to that? All other things equal, I guess I want to go with 3 shots. Does anyone have an opinion on this issue?

Please advise.

Thanks.

 

[sofarsogood]

what is most important to me is something that has a strong mouth to lung hit.

My experience is the best throat hit comes from fresh wick and wire. I dry burn and rewick about once a week and replace the coil about once a month, assuming continuous use. Rebuilding makes this more practical. It helps that I use very minimal flavoring with no sweeteners, less prone to gunking. DIY makes it easier to get the liquid the way I want and saves money, 1 cent per ml cost of ingredients.