Need 2 DNA Mods (single and dual/triple 18650). Small. Simple.

[vapesmooth123]

hoping to save some time on research and get some recommendations for 2 new dna mods, small size for their category (1 a single 18650 and the other a dual or triple [or can do 2/3 18650 like the VT250s]). My vt250s broke, CHECK BATTERY ERROR, had some suggestions from evolv's forum, had to get warranty, it broke again after warranty.
Now my dna Hcigar VT75 nana is giving TOO HOT error sometimes. Googling suggests need to warranty for new chip but is past warranty. Maybe I can reset fix it in escribe but I still want a new single 18650 MOD.

Despite these DNA problems (also had a DNA200 Rolo onboard charger stop working) 3 for 3 broken DNAs within about 18 months of purchase, I still want both new mods to be DNA because I always charge through the USB port and DNAs are the safest in that regard.

I want them simple (no deep menus) and I know there's newer color DNA mods which might have confusing menus, but hopefully not.
I want them small and less bulky as possible but not going to go nuts over the size thing again like I did when finding the VT75nano and VT250s to save a half inch or something in-pocket.

I need one big mod that can hold 2 or 3 18650s (or has a changeable battery door to fit 2 or 3 18650s) as my main at-home MOD which I will also try some giant builds on. I know regulated mods aren't going to give as much power as a mod made for huge builds but I can still get decent power and battery life with the right dual or triple 18650 - the huge builds are just sort of for fun/testing, other than that I just build small single coils and vape low wattage.

the other single 18560 mod is for out and about small to fit in pocket but no less than an 18650 in case I forget to charge it overnight will still have good battery life.

I do have quality chargers but I am so used to just using the onboard DNA charger (which yes is safe and balanced but maybe it's why my DNAs keep breaking but maybe not, and maybe the newer ones won't break. Maybe a yiHi mod also which is said to be safe/balanced onboard charging but I'd rather stick with evolve since they have a forum etc.

I guess price range is about $100 per mod. THANKS!!

 

[Skeebo]

In regards to the single battery mod I suggest the JAC Vapour 75w Sandstorm. There is a thread over in the Temperature Control forum. It's a great little mod that can be had for less than a $100.

 

[charlie1465]

For dual/tri 18650 I would suggest either the drone (if you squonk) or the triade.

$113.50 Authentic Lost Vape Triade DNA250C 300W TC VW APV Box Mod - 1-300W / 200-600'F / 3*18650 / zinc alloy + stainless steel panel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$139.00 Authentic Lost Vape Drone 200W DNA250C TC VW Squonk Box Mod - 1-200W / 2*18650 / built-in 8ml squonk bottle / PC + zinc alloy at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

You can't get cheaper for the single 18650 than the JAC vapour above but if that's not an issue then there are lots of options ....here is a link to a dna single 18650 search

FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics

 

[Baditude]

I second the JAC Vapor series B DNA75W for the single battery choice. I liked my first one so much (original black 22mm top) I got another one (25mm sandstorm version).

The 22mm and 25mm versions have been discontinued, and replaced with a new 23mm sandstorm version.

I only use watts mode (just not a fan of TC). I never vape over 30 watts, and I get nearly a days use with a Samsung 30Q 3000mah 15 amp battery.

Only available from the UK website. JAC Vapour

 

[vapesmooth123]

I might try a DNA75C mod. I wish my VT250s wasn't giving me problems because it can dual or triple 18650, I have to hard reset and tinker with that one but if it's the dna250 chip then I won't get another dna250. I like the triade but wish it had dual 18650 mode also with a changeable battery door like VT250s. Dual 18650 for %95 of the time and triple (different married set) to play with quad coil huge 30mm RDA.

no leather mods for me BTW I don't buy leather/snake skin etc.

The VT75Nano that was giving TOO HOT error I think I solved. Probably more of a Hcigar problem than DNA: took it fully apart and cleaned it (wasn't much juice in it, surprisingly very waterproof, but I haven't had bad leaky builds, but for a year+ it looked good inside maybe 1 eye drop of juice in total) - some say TOO HOT means it fell or juice got in.

Anyway I found one of the two wires from chip-to-510 either rubbed or melted away the wire coating and may have had raw silver fine strands wires directly touching the metal housing. Put a new build in it and it's working for now, but this mod I'm giving to someone who can use it for the chip/ re-solder a new wire. I'm considering another one of these but can't really find it in stock.


I recently got a digi camera that uses rechargeable NiMh AA batteries (I figure the less li-ion cells I have the safer from fire hazard lol), so I'll need a charger on deck at all times anyway, so if I have to get a non DNA mod it's not that big a deal but I might still stick w/ DNA. BTW, single cell MODs are said to be very safe to usb charge, it's when you try and charge multiple cells in the MOD that you need balanced charging. I never rotated 3 cells for ~1 year and they all read same voltages on a digi and a ~$500 analog meter, so I do trust the DNA onboard.

Pretty sure unBalanced charging in a cheap MOD is the same risk as unBalanaced Discharging multiple cells in a cheap MOD - even if charged safely in an external, it can go thermal/explode just by using (discharging) the MOD, but I still wouldn't charge a non-DNA via USB.

 

[Horselady154]

Get the JAC Vapour. I have one. Ordered two more.

 

[smoked25years]

There's a new Sbody Macro Classical that replaced the original popular Macro. It is the smallest single 18650 mod. They are availabl on Aliexpress. Haven't seen it elsewhere yet.

I want one but haven't ordered it yet. I like the small size and the anodized aluminum finish. Anodized aluminum is much more durable than the painted zinc alloy used on most mods. Some folks end up putting stickers on the Jac vapour because the paint chips and wears off. Anodized aluminum stays nicer a lot longer. I think the new Macro Classical still uses the old black and white DNA 75.

Regarding the "confusing menus" on the color version... I seriously doubt anyone would find them confusing. I have a Mirage DNA 75C and it's great but it's not small. It's close in height to the Jac Vapour Sandstorm. They are tall.

For comparison, Macro Classical is 70mm tall and the Jac Vapour is 88mm tall.

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[ScottP]

Since you obviously like the mods if it turns out the boards have gone bad. You could consider buying bare replacement boards from Evolv and just replacing them in the mods you have? It would be a lot cheaper. While you are in there, you could replace the wire with thicker gauge to prevent future issues.

The VT75 Nano has been discontinued, so I am not sure you will be able to find a new one for sale.

 

[Skeebo]

I want one but haven't ordered it yet. I like the small size and the anodized aluminum finish. Anodized aluminum is much more durable than the painted zinc alloy used on most mods. Some folks end up putting stickers on the Jac vapour because the paint chips and wears off. Anodized aluminum stays nicer a lot longer. I think the new Macro Classical still uses the old black and white DNA 75.

The JAC DNA75 Sandstorm does not have paint on it. It's more of a brushed metal finish and no, if does not chip off. We buy the wraps strictly to personalize them.

 

[smoked25years]

The JAC DNA75 Sandstorm does not have paint on it. It's more of a brushed metal finish and no, if does not chip off. We buy the wraps strictly to personalize them.

It is not bare metal. It is "zinc alloy" (like I said) that has been "plated", according to Jac Vapour's web site. I said "painted" instead of "plated".

Most mods are zinc alloy that is painted or "plated". I suspect the sandstorm is a powder coat paint but Jac Vapour doesn't give specifics about the "plating". It's definitely NOT bare brushed metal.

Very few mods are bare steel... I can think of 2. Unfortunately fewer and fewer are made out of aluminum. Zinc alloy is cheaper.

My dream mod would be made from a solid block of aluminum like the Aspire NX75-A but have a DNA75C chip. The Sbody macro just has an aluminum shell (not a solid block) but at least it's aluminum. Anodized aluminum can have a Rockwell hardness up to around 60.

Someone posted a beat up Jac that had worn "plating" and someone recommended a skin for it. That was what came to mind. For example

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Started when I dropped it on concrete and chipped paint off the base. Then it wore through on the sharp edges. Then tiny bubbles appeared under the paint. Lately I just pick at it with my thumbnail while I vape.

I think once the rest of paint is gone I might try polishing the metal. Not sure what metal it is. soft like aluminium judging by the scrapes from when I dropped it, but with a greyish color like zinc.

Does anyone do wraps for this mod?

I love it anyway. It hit the concrete from chest height and didn't miss a beat. Thinking of getting another one, or maybe a Sandstorm version. I like the sand color but I don't have any wider tanks.

Another example...

My JAC is looking kind of shabby. Paint is getting all chipped off

Another example that talks about wear to both the old black and the new SANDSTORM...

...I'd only had the JAC for a few weeks and the black paint was wearing off revealing the silver bare metal underneath...My sandstorm JAC is beginning to show some light wear after several months of use. ...I've been considering putting a Vapor Skinz on it, I just haven't decided which one yet.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

You could always order new chips from Evolve and replace your bad ones...???

 

[Baditude]

You could always order new chips from Evolve and replace your bad ones...???

Huge thanks to Evolv, what a great company!

 

[Skeebo]

It is not bare metal. It is "zinc alloy" (like I said) that has been "plated", according to Jac Vapour's web site. I said "painted" instead of "plated".

Most mods are zinc alloy that is painted or "plated". I suspect the sandstorm is a powder coat paint but Jac Vapour doesn't give specifics about the "plating". It's definitely NOT bare brushed metal.

Very few mods are bare steel... I can think of 2. Unfortunately fewer and fewer are made out of aluminum. Zinc alloy is cheaper.

My dream mod would be made from a solid block of aluminum like the Aspire NX75-A but have a DNA75C chip. The Sbody macro just has an aluminum shell (not a solid block) but at least it's aluminum. Anodized aluminum can have a Rockwell hardness up to around 60.

Someone posted a beat up Jac that had worn "plating" and someone recommended a skin for it. That was what came to mind. For example



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Another example...



Another example that talks about wear to both the old black and the new SANDSTORM...

Old model, this is the new one:

Jac Vapour backs their stuff up with a great warranty and a great deal many users here on the that are familiar with the brand. I've had mine for two years now and I have had not one problem with it. No paint chips, powder coat, aircraft grade imron paint from the 90's, non stick, nothing has ever chipped yet. Love it!

 

[smoked25years]

One of the quotes specifically mentioned the SANDSTORM --> "My sandstorm JAC is beginning to show some light wear after several months of use. ...I've been considering putting a Vapor Skinz on it"

I'm glad you are happy with yours. I'm not trying to trying to say that it's not good. But you are wrong about the materials. Look at the Jac Vapour website. It says it is plated. It's definitely NOT bare metal.

Old model, this is the new one:

Jac Vapour backs their stuff up with a great warranty and a great deal many users here on the that are familiar with the brand. I've had mine for two years now and I have had not one problem with it. No paint chips, powder coat, aircraft grade imron paint from the 90's, non stick, nothing has ever chipped yet. Love it!

 

[ScottP]

My ONLY issue with JAC is that they won't make a model using the new "C" class DNA boards. If they did, I'd probably own 1 or 4. It's not even that I want the color screen. It's that I am spoiled from using the super simple 3 button menu system that the "C" class boards utilize. If you don't care about that 3rd button, then JAC is a good choice.

 

[Skeebo]

One of the quotes specifically mentioned the SANDSTORM --> "My sandstorm JAC is beginning to show some light wear after several months of use. ...I've been considering putting a Vapor Skinz on it"

Look at the Jac Vapour website. It says it is plated.

I'm glad you are happy with yours. I'm not trying to trying to say that it's not good. But you are wrong about the materials.

I tried looking up info on your suggestion on the forum, it only brings up this thread. I Googled it, 1 review. You can buy it at Fasttech and Gearbest. There is some guy on youtube with 1 in his basement. $99 bucks for something I can't find info would worry me immensely.

But, like you--I am glad you like yours.

 

[Baditude]

One of the quotes specifically mentioned the SANDSTORM --> "My sandstorm JAC is beginning to show some light wear after several months of use. ...I've been considering putting a Vapor Skinz on it"

That quote was probably me.

The "light wear" on my sandstorm is quite honestly just some barely visible wear marks (chicken scratches) that can only be seen in the right kind of light. It's nothing compared to the wear of any host of other mods that I have owned.

I'm pretty hard on my mods. I don't baby them at all. My mods usually share a pocket that may have my car keys in it. I'm quite sure had I taken better care of my sandstorm its finish would be as pristine as the day I got it.

The only mod I've owned which never displayed wear of its finish was a Segelei Fuschai 213 Plus, which I happily sold to a friend in need of a mod. I believe it had an annodized aluminum finish. However, it had a bad habit of sucking the life out its TWO batteries in a days use. In contrast, my JAC gets a full days use out of just ONE battery.

...I'd only had the JAC for a few weeks and the black paint was wearing off revealing the silver bare metal underneath...My sandstorm JAC is beginning to show some light wear after several months of use. ...I've been considering putting a Vapor Skinz on it, I just haven't decided which one yet.

My first JAC had the black paint which wore off rather easily. That's probably why they discontinued it. I put a Vaporskinz wrap on it for aesthetics, and because the wrap has a pebble grain texture like a basketball, I actually prefer it over all of my other mods because of the way it feels.

 

[Skeebo]

Also pulled this directly from their site:
A fresh design needs a fresh look, and the new Sandstorm finish just oozes style. Sleek brushed metal alloy with a slightly warm tone offers enhanced durability and helps to create a truly wonderful look to this already exceptionally well-designed mod and the best looking vape mod out there.

 

[smoked25years]

I tried looking up info on your suggestion on the forum, it only brings up this thread. I Googled it, 1 review. You can buy it at Fasttech and Gearbest. There is some guy on youtube with 1 in his basement. $99 bucks for something I can't find info would worry me immensely.

But, like you--I am glad you like yours.

The new Macro Classical is just recently released. There is an old discontinued Macro that is no longer available. The old Macro gets a lot of love on the forum and there are lots of posts about it. Hopefully the new one is as good or better than the old one. The new one is $65 in my link (above).

My intention was to point out differences in the materials. People commonly confuse plating and painted metallic finishes as bare metal like you did.

Given the choice, I prefer a more durable anodized aluminum over painted or plated zinc alloy.

Good luck to you.

 

[smoked25years]

Also pulled this directly from their site:
A fresh design needs a fresh look, and the new Sandstorm finish just oozes style. Sleek brushed metal alloy with a slightly warm tone offers enhanced durability and helps to create a truly wonderful look to this already exceptionally well-designed mod and the best looking vape mod out there.

"Materials and finish:
Sandstorm 23mm version:

• This version uses a very hard wearing plated finish that gives a cloudy, slightly tinted premium metal alloy finish
• Body (Sandstorm): Zinc Alloy with Sandstorm plating
• Cover – Zinc Alloy with Sandstorm plating"