Low Voltage Vaping

[Arnie H]

Can someone more experienced perhaps, tell me if by using a multi voltage or vv device, will lower voltages equate to less battery drain/longer life between charges? I would think yes, but am not certain.

I hear alot about high voltage vaping, but having a vv device also lets you vape cooler (less wattage) if that's what you prefer, without the risk of burning out your coils or frying your juice.

 

[jfosella]

Yes lower voltage would be less power and less drain on the battery.

 

[Arnie H]

Yes lower voltage would be less power and less drain on the battery.

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering how long you could make a 650 mah battery last by dialing down the voltage some, but without sacrificing satisfaction too much, I hear averages like 1 hour per 100 mah probably for standard voltage, but of course alot depends on your vaping frequency. I'd like to make my 650 mah battery last long enough to drain a 2.5 ml tank/clearomizer dry before having to charge. Anyone know the best battery capacities per/for 1 ML of juice? Like is 900mah enough to last for 2.5 ml? What battery capacity is good for a large 6 ml tank? Etc.

 

[Zipp]

While turning down the voltage can certainly make the battery last longer, you have to consider the fact that we need a coil to heat up for vaping to work. Turning the voltage down without changing coils decreases the power flowing through the coil and produces less heat. In order to get a decent hit at that lower voltage, you'll need a lower resistance coil. But then the power being drawn from the battery goes right back up to where it was before you turned it down. So while it's possible to make the battery last longer, it's probably not going to be super effective.

EDIT: You can figure out how long your battery will last pretty easily. Voltage divided by coil resistance gives you the current being drawn in amps. Divide your battery's capacity by the amount of current that you're drawing to see how long it'll last. Of course that only tells you how long you can hold down the button. Your vaping habits will determine how long it actually lasts.

 

[westmcmillen]

Thanks for the reply. I am wondering how long you could make a 650 mah battery last by dialing down the voltage some I hear averages like 1 hour per 100 mah probably for standard voltage, but of course alot depends on your vaping frequency,

Right, "moderate" use equates to roughly an hour per 100 mAH. Keep in mind though, less wattage means less vapor. (*Zipp covered that pretty well, while i was typing). There are some devices, for example, Joyetech's eVic, that displays a "remaining puff" estimation. But like you said, it all depends on your frequency.

Are you considering a VV? Or what?

 

[Arnie H]

While turning down the voltage can certainly make the battery last longer, you have to consider the fact that we need a coil to heat up for vaping to work. Turning the voltage down without changing coils decreases the power flowing through the coil and produces less heat. In order to get a decent hit at that lower voltage, you'll need a lower resistance coil. But then the power being drawn from the battery goes right back up to where it was before you turned it down. So while it's possible to make the battery last longer, it's probably not going to be super effective.

Thanks for the reply. Yes of course the resistance of the coil will make a difference and needs to be taken into consideration. Of course it is far safer to experiment with lower voltages than higher ones. I think I may be able to find a nice compromise between battery life and satistsfaction (throat hit, vapor, temperature, etc.)

Right, "moderate" use equates to roughly an hour per 100 mAH. Keep in mind though, less wattage means less vapor. (*Zipp covered that pretty well, while i was typing). There are some devices, for example, Joyetech's eVic, that displays a "remaining puff" estimation. But like you said, it all depends on your frequency.

Are you considering a VV? Or what?

Thanks for the reply. I already have an ego style multi-voltage (3 setting battery) but I have ordered a 900 mah ego style "true" vv device (3-6 volts in .1 increments) so I can find what suits me best.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

I think what you are after OP is a smaller device that would allow you to go all day without either needing a battery refill or a tank refill. Is that right?

If that's true, there are many devices to suit that need. There's are some mechanical mods which aren't much bigger than an Ego that can fill this need for you. You'll get about 800 mah, enough for a workday of moderate vaping. Get one of the 18350 mech mods.

 

[Arnie H]

I think what you are after OP is a smaller device that would allow you to go all day without either needing a battery refill or a tank refill. Is that right?

I'm fine with the cigar-like size of the ego batteries (also have 808's when I want a more cigarette like look), and I know many of the mods use larger capacity batteries, just wondering what mah capacity is best for each size tank at say standard voltage with average vaping frequency.

As for mods, box mods look ugly to me (though a small wooden gripper type might be nice, I like wood or something like the little sister). Speaking of mods, are there any with both 510 and 808d style threaded connectors, so you don't have to bother with an adapter? Perhaps with a switch to choose between each? A sort of universal double tank or carto system.

(I'm vaping the hell out of this quad chocolate blend. Very tasty!)

 

[dataoogie]

The higher the volts the stronger the throat hit but the flavor depends on what the resistance of the tank or carto or whatever you are using is. I like to vape at 4.4 volts on a 2 ohm tank. But the higher the volts and the lowers the ohms, the more chance of burning will occur and vice versa.

But in general, the lower the volts like under 3.6 will save battery of course, but it will be very light.

 

[westmcmillen]

Speaking of mods, are there any with both 510 and 808d style threaded connectors, so you don't have to bother with an adapter? Perhaps with a switch to choose between each? A sort of universal double tank or carto system.

Moju has an available dual 801/510 brass adapter. I know that doesnt exactly answer your question, but the point is: there is stuff out there, you will eventually come across what your looking for.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

I'm fine with the cigar-like size of the ego batteries (also have 808's when I want a more cigarette like look), and I know many of the mods use larger capacity batteries, just wondering what mah capacity is best for each size tank at say standard voltage with average vaping frequency.

As for mods, box mods look ugly to me (though a small wooden gripper type might be nice, I like wood or something like the little sister). Speaking of mods, are there any with both 510 and 808d style threaded connectors, so you don't have to bother with an adapter? Perhaps with a switch to choose between each? A sort of universal double tank or carto system.

(I'm vaping the hell out of this quad chocolate blend. Very tasty!)

I'd say 800 mah would be my best guess for a 2.5 ml tank at a standard 3.7 volts. You have to keep in mind that if using a mechanical or unregulated cigalike that you are dropping voltage incrementally through the day though so its maybe 4.2 in the morning and by the evening you could be down to about 3.5 depending on the battery type.

Egos are somewhat regulated and any vv device will be too. Maybe one of the electronic gurus can tell us how they behave differently. That is, will you get more or less life from a regulated battery at the same voltage?

 

[the_vape_nerd]

An 18350 mod is like fatter than your ego though not by all that much, and less tall. You could hold it in your hand and only maybe be able to see the drip tip. So, you don't need a box mod, a small tube 18350 tube mod would work.