Kangertech Subox Mini Starter Kit HELP

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So recently I purchased a Kangertech subox mini. I use 100% VG juice and I am extremely new to vaping. I put the juice in as recommended (filled up to the point described and saturated the coils wth the juice). When I take puffs, I get nearly ZERO cloud/vapor and a small burning taste in my mouth. I washed all the parts to see if it was dirty and that was causing the issue, but the problems still remain. I also think that small spurts of the juice come out of the drip tip while attempting to vape. Please help me.
 
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That should not happen. It sounds like for some reason the coil isn't getting any juice at all. Was the coil sheik wrapped or something and you still have the wrapper on maybe? I dunno.

I don't know a lot about the subox other than a few people have said it's kinda junky. That shouldn't effect anything though.

What wattage do you have it set at? It might be you're trying to vape at 1 watt or max watts and you instantly torched your coil.

Another possibility is the coil was just bad to begin with
 

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That should not happen. It sounds like for some reason the coil isn't getting any juice at all. Was the coil sheik wrapped or something and you still have the wrapper on maybe? I dunno.

I don't know a lot about the subox other than a few people have said it's kinda junky. That shouldn't effect anything though.

What wattage do you have it set at? It might be you're trying to vape at 1 watt or max watts and you instantly torched your coil.

Another possibility is the coil was just bad to begin with
Thanks for the quick response. The coil doesn't have any wrapping on it, im not that stupid . I also thought I torched the coil immediately so i tried another given coil, same issue. I didn't try max watts and the smallest wattage I could use was 7 so I doubt that's the issue.

Still need help with this. thanks.
 

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Thanks for the quick response. The coil doesn't have any wrapping on it, im not that stupid . I also thought I torched the coil immediately so i tried another given coil, same issue. I didn't try max watts and the smallest wattage I could use was 7 so I doubt that's the issue.

Still need help with this. thanks.

Vaping wattages for a coil. There is no silver bullet setting, any coil with wattage ranges those are just recommended "Averages" only, not what you need to run them at. The actual juice flavor, PG/VG ratio, Nicotine Strength, air flow, as well as "You" as the end user all play part in what max wattage will be.

*These Steps Apply to "ANY" new coil*
A) Prime the coil properly. Take your dropper and liberally soak/wet any exposed cotton on the sides of the coil, then down into the top of the coil. Key here is not to have juice pool or drip off the coil head, just enough to get wet. Assemble the tank, set aside for a few. Thinner liquids 70PG/30VG to 50/50 this can be 5 to 10 minutes, thicker liquids 20PG/80VG and such can take up to 20minutes. This allows the coil to soak up and saturate properly.
B ) Set the watts on you mod lower than the lowest "Average" rating of the coil, example coil rated at 40 to 80 watts, here you would set the watts to about 30watts to start. Just like you don't go racing a brand new Ferarri without first driving it a month gently to break the motor in properly, the coil head of your tank is the motor of the whole vaping device, you have to break it in gently as well.
C) Without hitting the fire button, take several unpowered puffs, this relieves any excess pressure assembling the tank cause as well as creates the proper vacuum to pull liquid into the coil the tank needs to operate properly.
D) Now in short max 5 second pulls, vape on the device for about 20minutes or so continuous usage, after this if everything is A-Ok, up the watts about 5 more watts, vape at this setting for another 15-20minutes continuous use, rinse and repeat this step until the flavor, heat, throat hit, and vapor production is to you "Your" personal tastes, not Joe Bob Buddy's flavor taste, but "Yours".
E) During Step D, any moment that flavor decreases from the previous setting on a new setting, or feels anemic, and/or almost a dry hit, take the watts down to the previous setting, this is sign that the wicking (cotton) is not keeping up with that watts setting, here the PG/VG ratio also comes into effect (thicker liquids will wick slower than thinner liquids). If you get a burnt, harsh, punches you in the back of the throat charcoal hit, tear out the coil, get a new coil, start at step "A" you've burnt the wicking and destroyed the coil head.

Note- Some flavors like higher heat (custards, bakery flavors, sweet cinnamons, cookies, caramels, vanillas, etc) where others like lower heat (tobaccos, coffees, simple fruit flavors, not very sweetened flavors), as stated above flavor of the juice is a big contributing factor, liquids with high PG get harsher and more throat hit at higher watts, just like higher Nic content gets more throaty the higher the watts. Vape is to hot try adjusting the airflow wider or lower the watts down. Again, no one size fits all silver bullet setting.

Next issue would be with the fact that you are stating you are using a 100% VG juice, sorry, 100% VG is 100% unflavored, liquid without even any nicotine or flavorings, at best your juice is probably a 20PG/80VG to 10PG/90VG, and with nic added into the solution, that becomes maybe 75 to 85% VG total. VG is very, very syrupy and viscous and Kanger coil heads for the most part can not really handle a juice that is over about 70% VG, to alleviate this short coming you can carefully take a sharp needle and poke or score a small hole (not completely through the cotton) into the cotton, this hopefully loosens the cotton on the little side holes of the coil head to wick thick juices better. Another option is to plug the side airflow holes, then suck hard and release on the air holes from the mouth piece a couple of times, this causes a vacuum and forces more juice into the coil wicking and coil head, be cautious as this can also flood the coil or over saturate it. Third option is to add 3 to 8 drops of "Distilled" water into your tank, shake the tank up to help mix this, the distilled water will help to thin the juice out enough to wick properly.

Biggest question though is why you need such a thick juice for a tank, I can understand if you are allergic to PG or have adverse affects to it, after consulting your primary physician and an allergy specialist. If you were allergic to PG before vaping your scope of consumer, injestable products would be very limited, tooth paste, food flavorings, food colorings, the list is long of all the items that use PG. If you certain you are allergic to PG as a whole, you'd be better off going with vendors like Virgin Vapors and a few others as their juices are 100% VG but also the flavorings are naturally extracted for the most part and already use distilled water in their juices designed for tanks. If the juice you are using presently is very syrupy and not natural flavoring high VG liquid like Virgin Vapors, then the liquid is designed for a "Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (RDA)" not a tank and designed for the "Cloud Foggers" group.
 

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I suspect the super-high VG level is causing wicking problems. Welcome to the board.

Me too. Personally, I don't use 100% VG (I can't even make it, as my flavors are in PG) and if I did there would be no tanks involved, only RDAs or Squonkers.

Today, I'm using a basic squonker at <40 watts (0.44ohms). It has 80% VG (the concentrate is 20% :eek:) and just watching that juice squonk around right now in that atomizer confirms my worry.

Can SSOCC really do 100% VG?
 

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I think you can be sensitive to inhaled PG without actually being allergic to it. I sort of wonder sometimes if the "throat hit" has something to do with it for me, but I really can't use it at all when vaping. The last time I did, I worsened my pneumonia significantly and I was smoking less. For now, I'm happy to err on the side of caution, and just add a small percentage of water to my vape, instead of PG.

Oh, I suppose I could "retest" the experiment, but vaping really started to work for me with max VG, and I'm in no hurry to get pneumonia again.

I find my best bet with consistent wicking and VG is to keep drawing on my vape a second or two after I stop pressing the fire button, I believe that helps with wicking. I haven't killed a coil with swiftness after I started making my own juices, where I can minimize other "gunk" factors like dark colored or very sweet liquids, which I don't even like the taste of anymore. Right now I'm using the same coil 1.6 Nautilus coil in a Kabuki, and it's been going steady and strong for over 3 days, I think? That's a good sign that I'm starting to get my flavor mixes right (hardly ever use storebought these days) and I don't poke holes in cotton, etc., it doesn't seem necessary. :)

Best of luck sorting out your various variables! You can do things to max VG to help it out, though I agree that some KT products may have a harder time wicking and running on very gloopy liquids. A small percentage of distilled water can do wonders, however.

Being as how it is KT, I'm not going to rule out that you got a bad product, though. If you bought it from a vape shop you might try travelling there to see if you can get it sorted out, or if not, replaced?

Best of luck,

Anna
 

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Me too. Personally, I don't use 100% VG (I can't even make it, as my flavors are in PG) and if I did there would be no tanks involved, only RDAs or Squonkers.

Today, I'm using a basic squonker at <40 watts (0.44ohms). It has 80% VG (the concentrate is 20% :eek:) and just watching that juice squonk around right now in that atomizer confirms my worry.

Can SSOCC really do 100% VG?

I don't have 100%, but I'm as close as I can get in my Evil DIY Lab. All of my flavors are in PG as well but I'm not into over-doing flavors. My xSOC's have handled my juice well.
 
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So recently I purchased a Kangertech subox mini. I use 100% VG juice and I am extremely new to vaping. I put the juice in as recommended (filled up to the point described and saturated the coils wth the juice). When I take puffs, I get nearly ZERO cloud/vapor and a small burning taste in my mouth. I washed all the parts to see if it was dirty and that was causing the issue, but the problems still remain. I also think that small spurts of the juice come out of the drip tip while attempting to vape. Please help me.
Welcome and glad you joined.
Sounds like no heat to the coil, a few too many causes to nail down.
Could contact:
Local Vape Shop -----Might be simple.
Vendor who sold it ---see if they will repair or replace or advise (any authorized distributor).
Manufacturer contact ---see if they will repair or replace or advise.
 

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So recently I purchased a Kangertech subox mini. I use 100% VG juice and I am extremely new to vaping. I put the juice in as recommended (filled up to the point described and saturated the coils wth the juice). When I take puffs, I get nearly ZERO cloud/vapor and a small burning taste in my mouth. I washed all the parts to see if it was dirty and that was causing the issue, but the problems still remain. I also think that small spurts of the juice come out of the drip tip while attempting to vape. Please help me.

I'm running a Topbox mini at 18-26W with max VG Red Monkey from Ohm's Vape 3mgnic and it seems to be working ok. I'm not filling up the room with vapor clouds, just my little area of the living room. I just changed the head today following IMFire's procedure and it worked as expected. The only thing I didn't see discussed was your air flow. Mine was hard to set, I had to get a flashlight and a magnifier to see inside the port. I get max flow with the port aligned directly above the power button. Do you get a good supply of air when you do a no power draw? I don't know if that's your problem, but certainly something to check.

If that's not your problem, check in here and ask again. There are a lot of people on this board that really know their stuff. Be prepared to look some stuff up. The really smart ones mean well but they speak a different language kind of like mechanical calculus. But in a good way.
 
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