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If you are new to DIY I always try flavors in plain VG/PG in 5 ml or less so I don't waste Nic incase it sucks LOL I also have been trying some blends lately, you just add the flavor and vape, no special mixing of this and that. One blend I just tried is Arnold Palmer a lemonade ice tea mix and it is great. So easy :)
 

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You really don't know tho as none of us do. I was reading over FL tobacco sellers laws and every vape shop in FL now has to apply to sell a tobacco product just like all vape shops in every state do. Each state has their licensing plus shops need FDA approved items. So maybe we have 2 yrs, maybe not.
 

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Learn to be vape apocolypse proof.

Gearwise:
Mechanical (unregulated) mod. Should last decades because there are no electronic parts or internal batteries to fail. A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

Rebuildable Atomizer. Learn to make your own coils. Its not hard; if you can braid hair you can wrap a coil. Homemade coils last for months at a time.
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This is the tough one. The FDA will most certainly ban the sale of nicotine base used to make homemade e-liquid. People are stocking up now.
Pg (propylene glycol), Vg (vegetable glycerin), and flavoring extracts will always be available because they are used in other industries.

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Thanks this is very helpful. Where would I get nicotine from and vg?
 
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You really don't know tho as none of us do. I was reading over FL tobacco sellers laws and every vape shop in FL now has to apply to sell a tobacco product just like all vape shops in every state do. Each state has their licensing plus shops need FDA approved items. So maybe we have 2 yrs, maybe not.
Lets hope so!! Thanks for all your info and help. I just want to be prepared because honestly I just started checking into this.
 
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Thanks this is very helpful. Where would I get nicotine from and vg?
I have purchased mine from My Freedom Smokes. However, there are several recommended vendors that sell nicotine base like Wizzard Labs and others that are slipping my mind. Check this thread in the DIY subforum:
Is there a blog or article to help someone new to DIY?

You can purchase Vg from the same places. Heck, you can buy it from Walmart.

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Yes everything you said makes sense and I feel a lot more comfortable now. Honestly I have been freaking out Lol but I was hearing so many different things my head was spinning. Thanks so much
 
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You really don't know tho as none of us do. I was reading over FL tobacco sellers laws and every vape shop in FL now has to apply to sell a tobacco product just like all vape shops in every state do. Each state has their licensing plus shops need FDA approved items. So maybe we have 2 yrs, maybe not.
At least I have Some sort of outside information to back up my opinion. You have, "This is my guess."

If you knew anything about Fla, you'd know that our Gov. really doesn't give a flying frosted bat poo what the Feds have to say. He Turned Down "Free" Federal Medicare money. He doesn't raise taxes, he gives tax money back. There is no way on God's green earth Gov. Scott is going to spend JACK state money to Take Away Florida vape jobs.

Oh and one of the BIGGEST FDA lawsuits that has a great chance of winning is by Halo, one of the biggest manufacturers. They're in Florida.

People making wild uninformed guesses is what is fueling this hysteria.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 

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I have purchased mine from My Freedom Smokes. However, there are several recommended vendors that sell nicotine base like Wizzard Labs and others that are slipping my mind. Check this thread in the DIY subforum:
Is there a blog or article to help someone new to DIY?

You can purchase Vg from the same places. Heck, you can buy it from Walmart.

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Oh wow so that's my mission then I just have to figure out how to flavor it tobacco lol
 

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If you are new to DIY I always try flavors in plain VG/PG in 5 ml or less so I don't waste Nic incase it sucks LOL I also have been trying some blends lately, you just add the flavor and vape, no special mixing of this and that. One blend I just tried is Arnold Palmer a lemonade ice tea mix and it is great. So easy :)
That's the problem I'm not in to the all the fruity flavors I like a light tobacco flavor.
 
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That's the problem I'm not in to the all the fruity flavors I like a light tobacco flavor.
Have you tried vaping straight Vg? I have, and its not all that bad a taste, slightly sweet (its used as a food sweetener in many foods) and many believe it tastes like a light non-menthol tobacco cigarette.
 

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Maria, no one has the faintest idea what will happen in the end. Vaping itself will not be banned, but it could become extremely difficult to get some of the things you need, like nicotine and devices to vape with. Find what works for you and then stock up on the items that are likeliest not to be available, such as mods, nic, and toppers. Learn to DIY. And look at Baditude's blogs; he has posted complete and accurate information on many vaping subjects.
 

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I have purchased mine from My Freedom Smokes. However, there are several recommended vendors that sell nicotine base like Wizzard Labs and others that are slipping my mind. Check this thread in the DIY subforum:
Is there a blog or article to help someone new to DIY?

You can purchase Vg from the same places. Heck, you can buy it from Walmart.

Xx2MB5z.jpg
Alright I just bought from my freedom smokers. 1 pint of vg, nicotine(which im confused because it comes with vg pg or both in it) i bought tobacco flavoring and a Syringe so we will see how this works out.
 

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At least I have Some sort of outside information to back up my opinion. You have, "This is my guess."

If you knew anything about Fla, you'd know that our Gov. really doesn't give a flying frosted bat poo what the Feds have to say. He Turned Down "Free" Federal Medicare money. He doesn't raise taxes, he gives tax money back. There is no way on God's green earth Gov. Scott is going to spend JACK state money to Take Away Florida vape jobs.

Oh and one of the BIGGEST FDA lawsuits that has a great chance of winning is by Halo, one of the biggest manufacturers. They're in Florida.

People making wild uninformed guesses is what is fueling this hysteria.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
We all hope you are right but if not and the vape is tobacco rule stands, it is still a new rule that changes everything even if we get a date of Aug 8 as grandfather date. I know my state and they can clobber us in a heart beat. You may still have vape shops in FL but no guarantee they will be in my state. There is a lot unknown at this point.
 

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At least I have Some sort of outside information to back up my opinion. You have, "This is my guess."

If you knew anything about Fla, you'd know that our Gov. really doesn't give a flying frosted bat poo what the Feds have to say. He Turned Down "Free" Federal Medicare money. He doesn't raise taxes, he gives tax money back. There is no way on God's green earth Gov. Scott is going to spend JACK state money to Take Away Florida vape jobs.

Oh and one of the BIGGEST FDA lawsuits that has a great chance of winning is by Halo, one of the biggest manufacturers. They're in Florida.

People making wild uninformed guesses is what is fueling this hysteria.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Maybe your crystal ball's got a crack.
At least I wish I could share your optimism.
Which I don't.

Seen to many pols promising and abjectly failing to deliver.
Administrations come and go , BT's been around for decades and been playing the game for decades,
their lobbyists don't care if they 'working' democrats or republicans or repucrate or democans.
None of them have been able to turn down the juicy sums BT's got to dole out. Heck, some states issued bonds on the MSA payments and are in troubled waters now cuz a fraction of the money actually goes into tobacco control.

Still enough crumbs left over for ANTZ prostituting themselves for a place at that particular feeding trough.

If they were really serious about pulling the plug on smokes, they'd take the MSA money to subsidize NRT as well as vapes. Any pol even suggesting that 's likely gonna end up floating face down in the Potomac or some such other 'mishap'. Peeps got done for less, we're talking billions here.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/sites/default/files/branded_e-cigarette_briefing_july_2015_final.pdf

Check the graph on page 2 ... that steep curve for vapes. Has everybody making a living off smokers dying up in arms. Cuz the sample size is 10k plus...so definitely no junk science.
And the UK guys are pragmatic about it. Quitting cold turkey ? Kudos to you. Patches ? Gums? Sure. Vaping? Of course. Counseling? Come right in.

For them, vapes are another tool in the box to get folks of the tobacco sticks.

So if they were really serious about pulling the plug on smokes in the US, they'd take the MSA money to subsidize NRT as well as vapes. Which would dry up a good number of ponds. Sp any pol even hinting at that 's likely gonna end up floating face down in the Potomac or some such other 'mishap'. Peeps got done for less, we're talking billions here.

True, the FDA's gonna get some bad heat on court for their regs.
Which is no guarantee that they won't try again after the next round of musical chairs in Washington.

I'm not promoting hysteria or panic, but a certain preparedness is gonna put you in a win-win situation:

Scenario - FDA has its way. Vaping as we know it gets sunk. Bad. But bearable if you got stock of your favoured hardware and juice.

Scenario - FDA takes a beating. Good. Vape from your stock and replenish as needed or desired.
Bottle of juice in the fridge is a bottle of juice in the fridge - regardless of outcome. Won't evaporate cuz the FDA gets or doesn't get what it wants. Only way to evaporate it is to do it a ml at a time - by way of your faourite mod :)

And - last but not least: Taxes.
Some states have already, some are making noises about it. And a lot more are bound to pipe up once the dust has settled with the FDA. Feds are broke, lots of states too. So taxing the bejesus out of vaping is a VERY likely scenario. Overdoing it will result in a black market. With all the ill side effects.

Now you may be able to make a stash from reputable and trusted sources with litte taxation.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Or as my beloved granny would have said: A stitch in time saves nine ...

Vape on :)
 

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Alright I just bought from my freedom smokers. 1 pint of vg, nicotine(which im confused because it comes with vg pg or both in it) i bought tobacco flavoring and a Syringe so we will see how this works out.
You didn't say what strength of nic you bought, but do be careful when measuring it out. I usually buy 100 mg/ml and cut it down to 12 mg.

Otherwise, have fun experimenting. Don't get discouraged if you don't find something appealing first try. It takes a bit of trial and error with the flavoring to come up with something pleasant. Start low on the flavor percentages and work up as needed. Too much flavor will kill the batch so to speak.
 

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Thanks so much!! I mean I read some of FDA regulations and I didnt see anything about them banning them unless they are 2007 or older. Thanks again
Now I can breath. This isn't a hobby for me I smoke tobacco nicotine and I DO NOT want to smoke cigarettes ever again!!


Actually, the regs pertain to everything that is newer than Feb 2007.
 

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