is my voltage too high???

Status
Not open for further replies.

benzbuggie

Full Member
Feb 26, 2015
5
1
wisconsin
i was recently reading about how burning at too high of voltage can release formaldehyde on levels higher than cigs. I know i know, people say that that level would make the juice taste like .... and make it not enjoyable. However, studies showed at 3.3v there was no formaldehyde and at 5v there was up to 15 times higher levels than cigs. Well it just so happens that the level i like to vape at is 11w at 1.9 ohms, which on the ohm chart says i am using 4.75 volts. I like the hard hit, but apparently burning at this voltage is giving me unwanted of formaldehyde, i think. I use a kangertech ipow2 and when i vape at 6 watts my voltage is about 3.5 volts according to the ohm calculator, which according to studies is safe. Too bad at that level i can barely feel the vape and it seems like a waste of my time. This has left me frustrated, it seems like i might as well go back to smoking cigs if i cant vape at the level i like. Are there any suggestions to where i can vape at lower volts and still get the same hit that i do at 11w 1.9ohms? please help. if it matters, the juice i vape is echto cooler 18mg
 

Niten13

Super Member
Verified Member
Nov 18, 2014
718
950
Tigard, OR, USA
Think of it in terms of taste, If it tastes burnt then you are burning the wick thus releasing the unwanted chemicals.
Do you cook? Cooking, camping. driving, we breathe in these aldehydes everyday in life.
Just keep you wick wet and if it tastes burn turn it down a tad. If its not burning you are in the clear.

Happy vaping!
:vapor:
 

proteckt3d

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 25, 2012
640
241
Denmark
I read that fomaldehyde is produced at 290 degrees Celsius and up, that's 554 Fahrenheit. The atomizer they were using in that test was a top coil silica atomizer. Which we might agree silica in this atty goes dry much faster than a bottom fed cotton setup. I don't know how many watts or what wire characteristics takes to reach more than 290/554 degrees on cotton but 11w is for sure not going to do that. I would expect maybe at least 30.
 
Last edited:

nyiddle

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 9, 2014
2,826
2,692
USA. State: Inebriated.
11W at 1.9 ohms isn't getting nearly hot enough to produce any -aldehydes. You're pretty far from the mark.

The concern, really, is more with low-ohm vapors who push crazy high wattages. 120W through a .2 ohm coil is probably getting VERY hot and VERY fast. The issue with this becomes (without any sort of temp control/detection) you're going to constantly be on the border of burning your cotton/juice.

Also voltage, on its own, means nothing in regards to the heat generated. 6V through a .6 ohm coil is VERY different from 6V through a 1.6 ohm coil. I recommend checking out steam-engine.org, which offers a rudimentary "heat index" to tell you if the vape you'll be experiencing is hotter/cooler.

Edit:

"BUT DUSTY, I WANT IT NOOOOW"

Picture%2B37.png
 
Last edited:

Alien Traveler

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Jul 3, 2014
4,402
5,789
United States
so really the voltage variable in the studies is irrelevant? when i vape at 11w i lose some flavor and get a little burning taste but nothing that is disgusting. A couple times i had a burning plastic taste, thats when i let it cool down.

Voltage by itself is irrelevant because such variables like coil design, wicking material and density, airflow etc., should be taken in account. Formaldehyde is forming when you burn your juice. You will feel burnt taste immediately, you will dislike it very much and you’ll lower you voltage to get rid of it. So, you will not get formaldehyde when vaping.
 

proteckt3d

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Nov 25, 2012
640
241
Denmark
so really the voltage variable in the studies is irrelevant? when i vape at 11w i lose some flavor and get a little burning taste but nothing that is disgusting. A couple times i had a burning plastic taste, thats when i let it cool down.

Ok, sorry, I focus my answer on cotton but now I realized maybe you are not using it. A little is not good. Even though wicking capabilities are lower with silica it should handle a bottom fed, normal coil and 11watts without any burnt taste unless the setup/head is well used. What atomizer are you using?
 
Last edited:

Light Seeker

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 31, 2013
1,052
1,322
Houston TX
You can test this yourself, go to a BM shop and try a temp controlled PV with your atty and see at how many watts the device stops power delivery.

Can't do this. The temp control requires nickel coils, your atty has kanthal coils. You select your desired temp range, then max the watts so it gets to temp quickly.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread