Is it safe to Vape whilst filling up with petrol?

[Willriker]

Using this in the station, away from the car being filled, wouldnt be a problem. But, using an electircal device (regardless of type) near a car beign filled is a bad thing.

Here's the thing, you can look up the ignition temperature for gasoline in its liquid form and see you should be fine. You can look up the ignition temperature for gasoline vapor, and see that you should be fine. But, lets just say there is a small hole in a line somewhere, misting out gasoline... well now you just lit a blowtorch.

The same thing happens with analogs... You can drop one in a portable gas tank. Nothing will happen. You can have one, near an open gas tank, the risk increases, but chances are nothing will happen. But if some sort of vibration, or pressurization is causing the fluid to mist.. and your smoking near it... I hope you have insurance.

There is a reason why you dont mount intake lines near electrical lines without some sort of shielding between them. You need to separate these type of things as much as possible.

Treat PV's the same way.

 

[rianscott]

I have to weigh in on this. To me it just doesn't seem prudent. There are some scientific types here that are saying it is impossible to start a fire or create an explosion with gasoline and an electronic cigarette in the gas station refueling environment.

But I say, people who smoke cigarettes while refueling are playing the odds. Gambling with their life and the lives of others.
It is the same with using E-cigs and refueling, only the odds are a better.

Eventually, someone, somewhere, will have the manual switch get stuck on while they are pumping fuel into their vehicle. It will over heat. They will instinctively drop it to the ground, where the gasoline fumes are. In their panic they will pull the nozzle out of the filler tube and spill fuel all over the e-cig they just dropped, which will at that very moment burst into flames igniting the spilled fuel which has also inadvertently gotten on their trousers. In a desperate and futile attempt to extinguish their clothing, they drop the hose, still locked in the on position. Fuel spreads beneath the cars of other patrons and ignites causing numerous explosions as the fuel and flames move from vehicle to vehicle.

A bit far fetched? Perhaps. It could happen tho. Give a million monkeys a million typewriters......eventually they will spell a word. Or write a book.

I don't know whether it's just me but damn, that sounds like the opening scene of a movie! well written!

Maybe it was because I read so slowly but I wanted to see the rest!

Bozzlite, The teaser/trailer writer!

 

[rianscott]

Bozzlite is the guy in the middle and the caption reads...


"so let's get this right, the switch stuck and so you dropped it! man you vapers are so stupid"

 

[sam12six]

I've done a lot of experimenting with fire. I've dropped several lit cigarettes into a puddle of high octane unleaded and the result - several wasted cigarettes drowned in gas.

As unsightly as some find it, I valued my face too much to actually draw on the cigarette and simultaneously bring the cherry into close proximity to the gas. I suspect that would have resulted in the fiery result the first experiment didn't.

People who get their education from the movies believe a gas station will blow up from a guy walking down a nearby sidewalk smoking. It's not true. Try the old movie classic - pouring a line of gas across the ground then drop a lit smoke on it while making your mean face - a flame won't appear and run across the ground (even dropping lit matches, it's all but impossible to get this to happen unless your gas trail is huge enough to be producing a ton of gas vapor).

Now with a PV, I'd say the odds of a flash fire are no better than with a real cigarette.

Honestly, if there were a real danger of lit cigarettes causing spontaneous explosions at gas stations across the country, they'd have more than a sign saying don't smoke. Gas would be dispensed in an environmentally controlled dispensing area by a professional gas dispenser.

All that said, I wouldn't vape at the pump any more than I would anywhere else that smoking is prohibited (without permission) - simply because those educated by the movies are all around and you don't need the station owners hating you because freaked out people are running into the station screaming that we're all about to die (or worse calling the cops).

 

[Drozd]

I've done a lot of experimenting with fire. I've dropped several lit cigarettes into a puddle of high octane unleaded and the result - several wasted cigarettes drowned in gas.

As unsightly as some find it, I valued my face too much to actually draw on the cigarette and simultaneously bring the cherry into close proximity to the gas. I suspect that would have resulted in the fiery result the first experiment didn't.

People who get their education from the movies believe a gas station will blow up from a guy walking down a nearby sidewalk smoking. It's not true. Try the old movie classic - pouring a line of gas across the ground then drop a lit smoke on it while making your mean face - a flame won't appear and run across the ground (even dropping lit matches, it's all but impossible to get this to happen unless your gas trail is huge enough to be producing a ton of gas vapor).

Now with a PV, I'd say the odds of a flash fire are no better than with a real cigarette.

a lot worse actually... atty's glow at a significantly lower temperature than a cherry on a cig, a lit match, or even the tailpipe of a vehicle...

and then the vapor has to snake it's way into an atty through the air holes between battery and atty in a high enough concentration to get a reaction....

not likely at all

 

[Kevin Freeheart]

Some of the comments in this thread make me giggle.

A properly functioning PV doesn't cause any risk. A malfunctioning one theoretically might, but I'm actually pretty sure that the battery's reserves would deplete or the circuit would break before that amount of heat would be generated. Anybody who's dropped a lit cigarette in their lap knows the damn things are HOT and they're NOT hot enough to ignite gas.

If I were as worried about the malfunctions as some people in this thread, I would just not go to gas stations. Apple and Dell both have had laptop recalls within the past 2 years where the batteries caused the laptops to burst into flames. The odds of someone having a Dell or an Apple in their car is a lot greater than the odds of a PV getting so hot it scorches your fingers and causes an explosion Michael Bay would envy.

 

[pixproff]

Be on the side of caution and wait until you are away from the pumps. Anyone should be able wait the few minutes it will take.

 

[HzG8rGrl]

Some of the comments in this thread make me giggle.

A properly functioning PV doesn't cause any risk. A malfunctioning one theoretically might, but I'm actually pretty sure that the battery's reserves would deplete or the circuit would break before that amount of heat would be generated. Anybody who's dropped a lit cigarette in their lap knows the damn things are HOT and they're NOT hot enough to ignite gas.

If I were as worried about the malfunctions as some people in this thread, I would just not go to gas stations. Apple and Dell both have had laptop recalls within the past 2 years where the batteries caused the laptops to burst into flames. The odds of someone having a Dell or an Apple in their car is a lot greater than the odds of a PV getting so hot it scorches your fingers and causes an explosion Michael Bay would envy.

A big battery MOD would change your mind on that statement.

 

[Damianscot]

I agree think it's better safe than sorry, because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean wise to keep doing it...just my 2 cents

 

[Phil McRotch]

I blew up...

a cloud of triumph as I pumped gas into my car while vaping and didn't die.

 

[dormouse]

Have your passenger pump while you vape in the car. That's what I do.