Is it bad to charge a battery before it is completely dead?

[rammstein]

I am only using one of my batteries right now until it goes completely dead because, I want to wear it out so I can upgrade to a better battery but I don't want to wear both of my batteries out at the same rate because I only want to buy one upgraded battery at first to see if the added expense is worth it. So I smoke my 1st one till its spent then recharge it and very sparingly use my backup battery until the other one is charged but I am currently plugging the backup battery into the charger every time my 1st battery gets fully charged so I can wear my normal battery down some more. so my question is, does recharging a battery that hasn't been used that much harm it in any way? (sorry for the long explanation.)

 

[spaceballsrules]

In the case of lithium-ion batteries, it is actually beneficial and prolongs the overall life of the battery. It's all about Depth of Discharge (DoD). Here is a good read that explains the mechanics of how Li-ion batteries handle charging and discharging - How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

 

[wshanncap]

Actually it causes more damage to run the batteries down too far.

 

[Deeo]

I never wait for my batteries to go dead and and they still work great.

 

[CassiusCloud]

I've had my sony vtc4's for over a year now and never take them down past 2.7..
They are still working like a dream..
You don't want to take them down past 2.5 or they are pretty much done..

 

[Hulk]

I just charge it when i am not using my battery. By the time my battery is dead and needs replace, i am ready to upgrade.

 

[Train2]

Spaceballs nailed it.
Better to do frequent partial recharges. If the lifespan is "300 recharges" but you're only running it for a couple hours, say 25% of it's capacity, then you'll be able to recharge it probably more than 1000 times... If that makes sense.

This is pretty much true for an Ego, or a mod's removeable - you didn't specify what you're using.

 

[DaveOno]

Guys, the OP is talking about an ego 650 or 400 battery. You can't run it down too low. The internal circuitry will shut it down at Low Voltage Cutoff.

Just as long as every so often you do run it till it blinks, it'll be fine. But the point is moot. If you used just the one battery, after a year, it might go from 4 hours to 3 hours on discharge. Unless something freaky happens, batteries just lose capacity.

 

[DaveOno]

Hi, Rammstein.

You didn't give us much info. But I looked at all your other posts.

To answer your question, spaceballs link is good. Read up on it.

I bought a pair of Variable Volt stick type batteries 900 mAh. These are Halo Triton (which I love, but I wouldn't recommend to you cause the threading is proprietary, and won't match the stuff you already have.) These aren't variable wattage, just regulated adjustable voltage. And easy to operate. You start at a low setting, like 3.3v. Then you turn it up bit by bit till you find your "sweet spot". If it's too harsh or burnt tasting, dial it down. And different tanks and juices will need a different power. That's the beauty of variable power. The battery you have isn't adjustable, you just deal with what it is providing.

But I love my VarVolt bats, cause they deliver the set voltage from fresh off the charger until it blinks for a recharge. And I used these HEAVILY for the past year, and they are still performing great, but the vaping time is going down. I used to get let's say 6 to 7 hours between charges, now I get 4 to 5.

Life is too short to continue with entry level stuff at this point in your vaping journey. Get thyself to a vape shop. Try out the variable volt and the var wattage mods they have. Bring your tanks, they will fit.

Then shop around. You might find you don't need variable wattage with the readout. Maybe a good adjustable V V battery will do. This Vision Spinner 2 1600mAh looks great at $25. Found good pricing at 101vapes.

That Apollo VV/VW seems a bit expensive for the capacity, $40 for 1300mAh. Although it is round, easy to hold and variable wattage.

Consider an iStick? Rounded edge is easy to hold, VV/VW, 2300mAh and plenty of power. It lasts me a day and a half. And you can use your current bats as backup. And find it at MyVaporStore for $39

And best of luck!!!

 

[DaveOno]

Oh, forgot. Apollo does have a Free 20ml juice givaway. Just pay one cent off your paypal or credit card (to age verify).

And toss in a few more bottles, shipping is still free.
But USE THIS LINK and the code

FREETRIAL

 

[kbloodcrip]

Never wait till batteries completely dead to charge!!! Potentially delays/ruins the battery

 

[invisiblehand13]

This is just IMO but I will never discharge a battery past 3.2 volts {Moderated} I just relay the advice of my battery supplier to them and now everyone here...just saying...

 

[drippaboi]

Best thing you can do for your new battery: condition according to spaceball's link.

Worst thing you can do for your ego battery: Charge using a rapid (> 0.5A) charger.

 

[DaveOno]

Worst thing you can do to any battery: charge it with a charger not meant for that battery.

 

[Madder ax]

I run all my batteries down to about 3.6, then off to the battery room they go.
But, really why bother to worry about them. Every day they come up with something bigger and better.
Your battery is obsolete by the first charge. I can't keep up. Its a nasty media hype cycle.

 

[littlehadsell]

What about taking an imr 18350 off the charger before full charge... Any damage done?

 

[rammstein]

so according to this I should never let my battery get to 100 percent? keep it as low as possible and charge it till it gets to like 20-30% max power?

In the case of lithium-ion batteries, it is actually beneficial and prolongs the overall life of the battery. It's all about Depth of Discharge (DoD). Here is a good read that explains the mechanics of how Li-ion batteries handle charging and discharging - How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

 

[GVap3r]

i always charge it when i feel my mechanical mod strength is quite depleted. i think around 3.5 is fine

 

[rammstein]

QUOTE "Best thing you can do for your new battery: condition according to spaceball's link.


how do I condition it according to his link? I read his link but found it very confusing. can you simplify it for me at all?

 

[Alien Traveler]

What about taking an imr 18350 off the charger before full charge... Any damage done?

No. It also will prolong battery life. But it is too much trouble to look after charger...