I call it..."My Mod" !!Warning...graphic intense!!

[nicotime]

Been using the twisted wire coil (in the pic in post #54) in my atty all this week...so I figured I would report back. It does seem to run hotter than a single wire 2.8 ohm coil and is pretty durable. One thing I noticed when I did my weekly cleaning though...after I dry burned the coil I looked at it with my 18X jewelers loupe and the wire had a coating on it that looked like it was sprayed with ruby...oxidation I imagine...just never saw coils have a red/purplish hue to it. It did crumble off if I bent the wire around or scraped it...no biggie.

He may be on to something for sure. To make it I put a piece of stiff wire with a "J" hook on the end in my mini hand drill...folded a 4" 36ga wire...held the two loose ends in one hand and hooked the J in to the fold and spun the drill. Make a nice even twisted wire in seconds so its not hard to make.


Also...I see people talking about repairable CE2's all the time...so I was thinking how this mod's design would work with a CE2. I did a real quick drawing..not to scale...but just to show what I mean. Basically you replace the ceramic cup with a silicone plug...clip the original wires off at the cup and use the rod and spring setup to pinch connect them on to the bottom of the rods...and then all you need to do is replace wire and wicks when needed. Dunno...might work..never tried it.




Oops...forgot to crop the drawing...oh well!

 

[WillyB]

Cool.

As far as the ceramic, Roadrash a master atty/coil dabbler, seems to feel a ceramic cup is a big part of good performance. Except for that over sized down tube, dripping right into the cup of a CE2 certainly produces excellent results.

When I look at your basic design I often wonder what a chunk of ceramic, maybe like a shallow bowl right under your coil would do for performance.

 

[mj64]

Cool.

As far as the ceramic, Roadrash a master atty/coil dabbler, seems to feel a ceramic cup is a big part of good performance. Except for that over sized down tube, dripping right into the cup of a CE2 certainly produces excellent results.

When I look at your basic design I often wonder what a chunk of ceramic, maybe like a shallow bowl right under your coil would do for performance.

I've been thinking a LOT about the CE2 ceramic cup and silicone cap lately. I've never been able to match the taste with anything else, and I have tried putting the silica wick in other devices.

 

[roadrash]

Cool.

As far as the ceramic, Roadrash a master atty/coil dabbler, seems to feel a ceramic cup is a big part of good performance. Except for that over sized down tube, dripping right into the cup of a CE2 certainly produces excellent results.

When I look at your basic design I often wonder what a chunk of ceramic, maybe like a shallow bowl right under your coil would do for performance.

Willy, I have already tried that with a 801 ceramic cup ground down flat. For me it was better than a carto, But not as good as a E-2 cup. your results may vary. :>)
As far as the twisted wire. I'm on my third week with my E-2-.7ohms ( 2" of 34 gauge, folded in half and wound by hand. )with hardly any sign of degration. I like it.

Master Dabbler.

 

[nicotime]

I dunno Willy...I played around with ceramic cup I made with Autocrete and tried it in this mod and it just absorbs heat...vape was the same as with the silicone divider plug I use now. I even used this mod for about a month with no tank divider at all and it was great...the only problem was the liquid would get dark and nasty toward the end because it mixed with the vape byproducts I guess. Maybe in some cases a cup would be some help...but I have no problems with this silicone divider...doesnt get hot or burn...no bad taste..hasnt worn out in 6-7 months...its just like its not there. If you have a tube pulling the vapor straight off the coil as soon as its produced...whatever else is in the tank has no effect on it anyway IMO. Now if the inside of the cup had a heat reflecting material in it..might be a different story. I think the CE2 already has too much heat in too small an area of wick...the main reason it cant wick fast enough. The only thing it has going for it is the fact that the coil is right in line with the air flow..the cup is just a means of holding the coil and insulating it from the metal intake tube.

I dont have a pic in use..but this is the cup I made in front....


This is the Autocrete cup fired with a torch...


and without any tank divider in my old prototype mod..back when I was using SS mesh for wick...

 

[nicotime]

Hey..no fair sneaking in post while I'm typin RR!!

 

[goat29]

nicotime, what do you use for your silicone divider plugs and where do you get them, pls? the only thing i can find are test tube plugs and they are cone shaped and i dont think they would work very well

 

[roadrash]

Hey..no fair sneaking in post while I'm typin RR!!

Timing, Ticka, ticka, timing. plus you used a lot more words than I do.

I agree with you about the dark vape byproduct. I think the more juice you have in a tank/tube the
more byproduct you get. Ive noticed since Iv'e made my E-2 tube smaller I have a lot less dark stuff. Maybe it gives it a chance to burn off before it starts collecting.

 

[nicotime]

nicotime, what do you use for your silicone divider plugs and where do you get them, pls? the only thing i can find are test tube plugs and they are cone shaped and i dont think they would work very well

I use the liquid silicone from Aeromarine to mold the plugs and divider...the link and info is on my first post of this thread.

One note...they now sell a different Food Grade silicone and also added a putty. I have never tried either so I dont know if its the same to work with or not. To get the same exact thing I use you would need to order their AM 128 Silicone Rubber RTV. I emailed them and ask if what I have is still considered Food Grade...and they said it is but they dont sell it as Food Grade anymore. I think they just want to push their more expensive platinum cure stuff. You could split a 1/2 gal with at least 4 people and still have plenty of stuff to make plugs with...but bear in mind splitting the base rubber component is like dividing wood glue..its sticky stuff until the catalyst is in it and cured. Best thing would be to get wide mouth jars to pour it in to.

Timing, Ticka, ticka, timing. plus you used a lot more words than I do.

I agree with you about the dark vape byproduct. I think the more juice you have in a tank/tube the
more byproduct you get. Ive noticed since Iv'e made my E-2 tube smaller I have a lot less dark stuff. Maybe it gives it a chance to burn off before it starts collecting.

Hay...I'm old and slow and a two finger typer!!

Yep...my tank holds 3ml and as long as the chambers stay separated...the liquid stays the same color until the tank is dry. It depends on the liquid also too...some that has a lot of heavier darker flavorings in it...the wick filters some of it and will make the last bit darker.

 

[nicotime]

Figured I would post an update on this thread with a couple new VV editions I made.....and a video for the maintenance of the quartz attys. The resin was still giving me a pain with air bubbles and poor finish...so in desperation I painted them with the polyurethane resin so they wouldnt be so hideous. They function though so I guess that counts for something. Both are 04050 boosters using Breaktru's schematics....the red one with a digital pot...the blue one a regular analog pot. The DIP switch buried in there is for turning the LED on or off if wanted.

The video is kinda long and boring...but it may spark some ideas...or help with your sleeplessness! Hey...I was bored and the kids off school are drivin me crazy already..ok!! lol

 

[Dieseler]

Very nice - i always enjoy reading the mod section of the forum.

 

[Quigsworth]

Nico...I was looking around on ways to hook up my mosfet and happened upon this...amazing, so are you working on the chemical formulation and cell stacking techniques so you can make your own batteries too, lol

 

[Cardslinger]

Interesting, very interesting

 

[nicotime]

Nico...I was looking around on ways to hook up my mosfet and happened upon this...amazing, so are you working on the chemical formulation and cell stacking techniques so you can make your own batteries too, lol

Well I was Quigs...until I dropped my pellet of uranium on my desk and it ate thru it....and the floor....and the concrete floor in the basement......but not to worry...I'm mixing up some Acme slow reacting nano-thermite as we speak...the instructions sez super reacting...but I'm sure they meant slow since it is "nano" after all!!

Wait...nooooo...thats not the way its supposed to work....yeah ummm..........no I just use regular batteries.

..........know where I can buy a desk cheap...and a good flooring company...hey I think I can see china!

Thanks guys!