Hussar Project X RTA Clone (by Coppervape)
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Exactly like my Fresia..... I loved it from the first draw and hated it after couple days...
I spent couple weeks trying figure it out where is a problem and finally gave up
@Janusz Another fine review from Todd. Thanks for posting it. I let it continue past his video and Fleetwood Mac came on with their "Beautiful Child", perfect.
Todd even mentions poor o-ring tolerances in previous Hussar atty's at around 1:10 and again around 14:50. I think that is why we see issues with the clone o-rings. If Hussar didn't get it right then certainly the clone makers didn't.
@AngeNZ , a while back you asked about a small kayfun that would give you your Frankenvape. The KFL19 is a very small RTA. Even though it is a MTL atty you can pull a restricted DL or in your case, the Frankenvape with it. I do and it works nicely. Flavor, awesome. Quality of vape, awesome. Easy to setup, yes. Same with the Coppervape Dvarw MTL which FT also sells larger AF inserts.
How different is the deck in the MTL X vs the 3 hole X? As Klaus was also reviewing the MTL X when he did his famous short wicks.
I'm gonna have another try at short wicks, hate being beaten by cotton
I drooled over the KFL19 RTA when it came out - but 1.8mm max airflow hole id is just too small for this frankenvaper
I've tried and love the Fumytech Gotank rta, but that's 2mm and still too tight.The 3*1.5mm dual side airflow of the Project X - is my perfect draw
I'm glad to hear that. Maybe I underestimate some but I was also taking into consideration the inconsistencies on the various Xs.....o-ring sizing, tolerances, etc. I never had firsthand help in the beginning but a newb having you and Bronze is definitely a benefit
And this leads me to, I'm sorry to say. I'm just plain out wondering if my X is working properly? We discussed all the variables already so I think you know where I'm at. I currently have 80VG in it and it vapes fine until.....it doesn't and I get dry hits. Either I need to REALLY thin the wick or the liquid is not flowing freely for whatever reason. I don't usually have repeated issues like this. Any thoughts?
I was going to suggest overstuffing too - are you using rayon or cotton?
I've been trying Cotn Lump over the last few weeks. Previously I used Cotton Bacon Prime. I knew exactly how much cotton to use with Prime, but it's been a new learning curve with Cotn. If I overstuffed, it would vape fantastic, until the cotton swelled even more, then gave me protection errors (I'm in TC mode). Of course, then I underdid the wick, and it got gurgly
I've figured it out now, but sometimes it is a fine line between too much wicking, and just right wicking.
I guess 'in theory' I grok the choked wick bit, but does that really happen? My coil in my X is a 4.75mm ID and stuffed full with Rayon. I haven't noticed it choking. I must be doing something wrong as it is not choking as far as I can tell.
While I don't usually lean in this direction, I think this thread went way AR somewhile back.
While I don't usually lean in this direction, I think this thread went way AR somewhile back.
The MTL X build deck is the same as the standard X other than, like you said, the differences in AF. Both have the same quality vape. My MTL X is back in it's box because the standard X offers more options with vaping styles. I like my X's wide open with higher watts, or a tighter MTL at lower power or anywhere in-between like <Frankenvape>.How different is the deck in the MTL X vs the 3 hole X? As Klaus was also reviewing the MTL X when he did his famous short wicks.
I'm gonna have another try at short wicks, hate being beaten by cotton
I drooled over the KFL19 RTA when it came out - but 1.8mm max airflow hole id is just too small for this frankenvaper
The 3*1.5mm dual side airflow of the Project X - is my perfect draw
It's very versatile, aw heck, who am I kidding, it is the most versatile, RDA like, RTA around. And the flavor rocks!!! 
Idk, SMT, I wick it like I wick most my coils and don't have that problem. The only time I wick more tight in the coil is when I use rayon.
I'll check out his MTL X vid. I've been thinning out the tails like he suggested in the first vid, giving them an angular cut. I just prefer to angle cut from the bottom rather than the top like he did but same outcome.
I love the short wick when it can be used. That's why I like the Silverplay and the OG Bachelors, Rose V2.....I'm gonna have another try at short wicks, hate being beaten by cotton
@muth, have you tried lifting the tank section off the deck/base?
As when it's all the way down, liquid flow is negatively affected.
So I've got a fair few different sized o rings to order and try, as the o ring on the base of the deck really needs replacing. As it's definitely not hard enough and it's also not quite the right size, and of course that affects the performance of the X.
As when it's all the way down, liquid flow is negatively affected.
So I've got a fair few different sized o rings to order and try, as the o ring on the base of the deck really needs replacing. As it's definitely not hard enough and it's also not quite the right size, and of course that affects the performance of the X.
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Thank you so much, Mordacai
Can't wait to see how they work out. Not sure what you mean, have I tried lifting the tank section off the deck/base? Do you mean the PEI tank only or the entire long mode tank section?
@ShowMeTwice @AngeNZ I watched Klause's vid and now I'm psyched to try the short wick method. I also liked the top cap/fill method on the MTL better than the regular X. I want that top cap on my X
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.@muth, when it's locked closed and liquid flow is open. Just pull the top section aginst the locking tabs of the deck/base, so that when you look at it from the side you can see it's not all the way down.
And this trick should work with either long or short modes.
Seems that the o ring is supposed to stop the top section being pushed all the way down.
And this trick should work with either long or short modes.
Seems that the o ring is supposed to stop the top section being pushed all the way down.
I've used both rayon and cotton. Sometimes I switch depending on my whims. I don't buy different types of fancy cottons. I'm more utilitarian using good ole Japanese organic cotton. It's always worked for me but I can understand using the cottons you mention. They can be easier to work with, less fussing about. I recently tried some American organic cotton and I was surprised by the flavor. It had less of a breaking in period but it was loaded with cotton pills. I picked some out and left the rest. It worked fine.I was going to suggest overstuffing too - are you using rayon or cotton?
I've been trying Cotn Lump over the last few weeks. Previously I used Cotton Bacon Prime. I knew exactly how much cotton to use with Prime, but it's been a new learning curve with Cotn. If I overstuffed, it would vape fantastic, until the cotton swelled even more, then gave me protection errors (I'm in TC mode). Of course, then I underdid the wick, and it got gurgly
I've figured it out now, but sometimes it is a fine line between too much wicking, and just right wicking.
If you mean Aortic Regurgitation, remember that I jumped into this thread only recently asking questions. I'm behind the eight ball compared to you and the rest.
Good lord, this was not confidence inspiring at ALL. LOL I had to check my FT order to be CERTAIN I actually GOT the MLT version which I did. Thankfully.
I better not break it dude I got a silverplay up and running LOVED it but leaking.
Now, in taking it apart to rewick it is entirerly possible I have DESTROYED it. IDK. I will be ah, messing with it more SOON.. BUT I for sure know what ALL the guts in SIlverplay look like and not on PURPOSE either.
This was for you @AngeNZ Hehe I know you love my STRUGGLES.
Anna
I better not break it dude I got a silverplay up and running LOVED it but leaking.
Now, in taking it apart to rewick it is entirerly possible I have DESTROYED it. IDK. I will be ah, messing with it more SOON.. BUT I for sure know what ALL the guts in SIlverplay look like and not on PURPOSE either.
This was for you @AngeNZ Hehe I know you love my STRUGGLES.
Anna
Mordacai, I am not at all sure what you mean.
On my Project X's I have the bottom piece pushed all the way down like so...
@ShowMeTwice, it's possibly just a difference between original and clone due to tollerances.
As when I use a 27AWG (0.34mm) spsced 8 wrap SS316L coil @ 0.72 ohms in TC, and if I have the Coppervape Hussar Project seated all the way down I keep on getting singing of my wicking until I lift the top section up until it hits the locking tabs.
It seems as though it could just be an idiosyncrasy with the clone, but we can live with that.
As when I use a 27AWG (0.34mm) spsced 8 wrap SS316L coil @ 0.72 ohms in TC, and if I have the Coppervape Hussar Project seated all the way down I keep on getting singing of my wicking until I lift the top section up until it hits the locking tabs.
It seems as though it could just be an idiosyncrasy with the clone, but we can live with that.
@muth - Appology offered as that reference wasn't pointed at you. Rather it was commentary on the notion that coil and wicking need to be Zachery Tso for the X to work. While nobody has said precisely that, it seems inferable from some posts. I offered a description of my build as it is very far from Zackery Tso. Then again, it could be that I'm not paying close enough attention.
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