So I recently purchased a bottle of the Sapphire-25 concentrated nicotine salt additive. It is suppose to be used to create a 15ml bottle of 25 mg nic salt eliquid, if you just add any 0mg liquid Into the little bottle which the Sapphire-25 mic salt mix comes in. It contains 0.9ml of pg, nicotine. But what I want to do is use this bottle to make a 0mg 60ml bottle of liquid I have into a 3 my mix. That being said I have never done any DIY projects before and thought this would be the most simple way and easiest way to get my feet wet. I have no idea how much of this Sapphire-25 mic salt concentrate I need to use to make this 60ml 0mgbottle into a 3mg. Or if I even have enough of the concentrate to do so? Any tips? In a very new to the site this is actuallyy first time on the site. Im glad I found this forum though because what I have seen on here so far is AMAZINGGG!! Any tips or advice on what I need to do from here? I would grrrreatly appreciate it. Thanks and Vape on!
How to use Sapphyre Nic Salt -25 to make 3mg 60ml mix?
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Hi and welcome,
WOW,
Okay, maybe my maths are off, but .9ml of nicotine to make 15ml of 25mg/ml final product, would have to be over 400mg/ml (approx 415mg/ml).
You would only need .45ml of the Sapphyre 25 at 415mg/ml to make your 60ml @ 3mg/ml.
Please be extra careful with the nicotine. It is only about 20 drops, but it is VERY strong.
HTH
I
WOW,
Okay, maybe my maths are off, but .9ml of nicotine to make 15ml of 25mg/ml final product, would have to be over 400mg/ml (approx 415mg/ml).
You would only need .45ml of the Sapphyre 25 at 415mg/ml to make your 60ml @ 3mg/ml.
Please be extra careful with the nicotine. It is only about 20 drops, but it is VERY strong.
HTH
I
Hello Joshua...welcome to the friendly bunch 
Probably the best thing to do is to add PG into the nic salt. That's the easiest way to know the resulting strength which will be 25mg/ml in a 15ml quantity PG base.
If you then put that in the ELR calculator as using that strength nic to make 60ml liquid at 3mg/ml it gives the following:
Nicotine juice 25 mg (100% PG) 7.20ml or 7.46g which is 12.00% of the final mix.
PG dilutant 10.80ml or 11.19g which is 18.00% of the final mix.
VG dilutant 42.00ml or 52.97g which is 70.00% of the final mix.
so...
Total base is 60ml or 71.62ml which is 100.00% of the final mix.
NB. You either use weight or ml to measure the correct amounts. Weight is easier but you can measure with a syringe for the ml if you don't have a scale. This is worked out on a 70% VG 30%Pg ratio which is a common liquid ratio for most people.
I hope that helps and it effectively means that you have enough nicotine to make approx 2 60ml bottles.
Don't forget that this will give you a flavourless mix so if you are adding flavouring you need to minus the mils quantity off the PG amount.
Probably the best thing to do is to add PG into the nic salt. That's the easiest way to know the resulting strength which will be 25mg/ml in a 15ml quantity PG base.
If you then put that in the ELR calculator as using that strength nic to make 60ml liquid at 3mg/ml it gives the following:
Nicotine juice 25 mg (100% PG) 7.20ml or 7.46g which is 12.00% of the final mix.
PG dilutant 10.80ml or 11.19g which is 18.00% of the final mix.
VG dilutant 42.00ml or 52.97g which is 70.00% of the final mix.
so...
Total base is 60ml or 71.62ml which is 100.00% of the final mix.
NB. You either use weight or ml to measure the correct amounts. Weight is easier but you can measure with a syringe for the ml if you don't have a scale. This is worked out on a 70% VG 30%Pg ratio which is a common liquid ratio for most people.
I hope that helps and it effectively means that you have enough nicotine to make approx 2 60ml bottles.
Don't forget that this will give you a flavourless mix so if you are adding flavouring you need to minus the mils quantity off the PG amount.
I didn't mean you...I meant the 0.9ml....eg. I suspect there is more than 0.9ml of liquid in the sapphire bottle
Hello Joshua...welcome to the friendly bunch
Probably the best thing to do is to add PG into the nic salt. That's the easiest way to know the resulting strength which will be 25mg/ml in a 15ml quantity PG base.
If you then put that in the ELR calculator as using that strength nic to make 60ml liquid at 3mg/ml it gives the following:
Nicotine juice 25 mg (100% PG) 7.20ml or 7.46g which is 12.00% of the final mix.
PG dilutant 10.80ml or 11.19g which is 18.00% of the final mix.
VG dilutant 42.00ml or 52.97g which is 70.00% of the final mix.
so...
Total base is 60ml or 71.62ml which is 100.00% of the final mix.
NB. You either use weight or ml to measure the correct amounts. Weight is easier but you can measure with a syringe for the ml if you don't have a scale. This is worked out on a 70% VG 30%Pg ratio which is a common liquid ratio for most people.
I hope that helps and it effectively means that you have enough nicotine to make approx 2 60ml bottles.
Don't forget that this will give you a flavourless mix so if you are adding flavouring you need to minus the mils quantity off the PG amount.
Izan...I think the 0.9ml must be a mistake...here's the product...
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Nope the bottle clearly says 0.9ml
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I hope the picture is clear enough, but it says. 0.9 ml. And the bottle is practically empty
Ok then Izan is correct it is very strong eg roughly 40% of the included nic is pure nicotine. Be very careful with it.
My suggestion still stands add PG instead of flavoured liquid and then you will have a 25 mg/ml or 2.5% salt nic liquid which you can then go ion to use as I discussed.
Alright awesome I got down what to do, thanks for all help guys!I didn't mean you...I meant the 0.9ml....eg. I suspect there is more than 0.9ml of liquid in the sapphire bottle
FoshoYou're welcome....lots of help here if you need it
40% nicotine is very toxic indeed. Do not under any circumstances spill any of this on your skin. I used to use black leaf 40 to delouse my game chickens back in the day. This was 40% nicotine sulfate. And there were strict warnings on the label as to how deadly this concentration was. I would mix a small amount of this with a copious amount of vaseline to make a salve to kill/prevent chicken lice and mites. 40% is nothing to play around with.
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