Hello vapers, this is my first time posting on this forum, I've been a silent reader for a year, and I want to share my one year experience on DIY e-liquid
Before I get to the point this is my story :
I was a heavy smoker and I've start vaping a year ago and bought eVic VTC mini mod and kangertech subtank mini tank
first time at the vape store they're offering me a premium US liquid five pawns (bowden's mate) 30ml and I like it at the first time I've tried it, its a chocolate mint french vanilla flavor with 0 nicotine (I assume I can stop smoking with 0 nic) I really like it and I vape so hard till my first coil (0.5ohm) default coil felt weird, so I change it to an rba one and making my first build with default coil also, tried it, very bad taste almost no flavor, and.. I did a research in the same day and bought a clapton coil, made a build, and boom! the flavor is back.. and back to vaping hard till I'm out of my first bottle, while in the last liquid in my tank still going I do a research for a DIY e liquid, I was so excited and found a supplier, bought a set of everything I need, opening e juice calculator, my first flavoring was from singapore, doing everything nothing works, all got is a very bad taste, I feel desperate and bought another e-juice from Indonesian brewer which is very good too! I bought around 5-8 30ml bottle and I try to mix it with my pg vg and also mint which I'm addicted to a cool feeling around my mouth and troath, and it's still good.. there's something I'm missing here in my diy e-juice, I did a research and keep trying for a year and finally got an answer, one of the top brewer here share how to make a good liquid, the key is research, try, and PATIENT, yeah the last thing is the most important key, I also bought an ultrasonic cleaner because I lack of patient.. but NOW I can make a real nice diy e-juice for myself because of PATIENT and research also we need more effort to make a good things really GOOD.
PREPARE :
1. RDA/RTA with good coil and wicking (SS316L giving the cleanest taste, ordering a ceramic atm and I will share if I got a good experience with it)
2. MOD with good batteries (20A continuous) 30-40A power
3. Pure grain alcohol (this is used to clean your rta/rda)
4. VG (Vegetable Glycerin) + PG (Propylene Glycol) (both Pharmaceutical Grade) is the KEY#1 (bad experience with food grade)
5. Flavoring (TFA recommended) is the KEY#2
6. Nicotine base (PG) if you dont have allergies it will dilute faster
7. 4 different pipets to determind how much (flavor, PG, VG, nicbase) needed
8. Sweetener (Sucralose Pharmaceutical Grade) I got it from a supplier in my country I'm sorry I can't inform you about the detail but you can find one in your country with a dropper bottle -optional- (I have bad experience with stevia and sorbitol they changed the flavor)
9. A few glass (recommended) or plastic bottles 10ml/30ml/50ml/100ml (it depend on how sure you are with your flavor)
10. Surgical gloves (use it to prevent direct touch with the nicotine base)
11. Gas mask and iron man suit (Just kidding
)
12. PATIENT
13. It's better you have your DIY Bases from different vendor to get a juice that you desire than to force buying from 1 vendor and make your juice bad - KEY #3
-WE WILL HAVE GREAT RESULTS FROM GREAT INGREDIENTS-
so, this is the MOST IMPORTANT RULES before we go into DIY :
A1. We must MAKE SURE that our RDA/RTA/RDTA gave us the real flavor of the juice, single hole direct to the coil from bottom goes straight trough our mouth and a good wicking is the key (what giving me the BEST flavor is kangertech subtank mini) with 24gs 4-6 wraps SS316L (0.3ohm), with SS coil it will need less voltage to get hot (3-3.2v) (30-35w) with japanese cotton and wick it so tight but make sure to shrink the other side so the cotton will absorb well and give it a little bit hole for liquid to get in. I don't recommend to try it with side airflow rda, bottom airflow is the BEST for flavor
A2. 1st part must be done with our favorite RDA/RTA/RDTA, next, smell our juice with our nose and try it with the best juice you have now, repeat until you get the best taste, prepare a water to drink with with you.
A3. Now your RDA/RTA/RDTA is ready, repeat #1 and taste/vape a few times your VG alone, and VG+PG (your desire %) alone, after that you'll have your wicking is wet of them, let it be. (what it does is to make sure your VG/PG is unflavored and let the cotton taste out, just put around 10 drops of it)
before going to DIY section make sure you have read below but don't do it yet, and make your calculation with e-juice calculator which can be found somewhere in google, I can't provide the link, when ready, do with the following step below.
OK, now the DIY section, this PART must be done step by step, please don't change any step AT ALL :
B1. Put PG (Propylene Glycol) (your desire %) in 10ml bottle first (add nicotine base too) - SHAKE IT
B2. Put flavor (if recommended flavor is 1-5% then put 1%) overflavoring is the most diyers mistakes (I'm one of them in the first time)
B3. Put sweetener (10% pg sucralose is 3-10%) depend on how sweet tooth you are (I use 8%) if you are using TFA sweetener then 1 drop per 10ml is enough - dont shake yet -optional-
B4. Put diluted menthol of your own desire (I use 10-30 drops) on 10% diluted menthol crystal -optional-
B5. SHAKE it now and let it be for 1 hour (bottle closed)
B6. So now we have PG+flavor+nic base(optional)+sweetener(optional)+menthol(optional)
B7. Back to the bottle, smell it, you will smell excatly the same after you steep in this step! so you must to make sure if it's good enough then please stop adding flavor, if it's too weak you can add 1% more flavor, SHAKE it, and let it be for another hour, repeat. Just don't overflavoring it will ruin your juice
B8. Once you got your desire flavor, put the rest VG (Vegetable Glycerin) to it.
B9. SHAKE WELL for 30 secs non stop until it has so many little bubble, if you have magnetic stirring then it would be good too, my experience with ultrasonic cleaner is sometimes it will kill some flavor, use it only for 10 minutes at max to fasten recover the bubble after shaking.
B10. THIS IS THE KEY : don't vape any single drops from your liquid because your liquid (most common diyers mistake too), because they're not mixed well enough to vape, you will probably vape your only sucralose and it will be soo bad..
B11. KEY #2 let it be for another hour, open the bottle, let it be for 2 hours, close the bottle, SHAKE again, let it be for 24 hour, SHAKE, repeat until 3 days (at least)
B12. So now we have a WELL MIXED liquid on the 3rd day, SHAKE it, and we can start VAPE it
B13. KEY #3 this time you can decide if you have a good mix or not, you can add sweetener / menthol / nicotine base too here, but NOT FLAVOR, if you think the flavor is bad then you must repeat from the first step.
B14. KEY #4 most flavor will get better everyday, dont steep too fast or too long, we can do it just right if you have yours good when you smell and taste you can start a bigger batch and you will surprise if you do the step B11 for 7 days
B15. NOW we have the juice to vape all day, repeat everything to get your desired e-liquid flavors!
COMMON MISTAKES :
C1. Not using the right coil build and wicking on the rda/rta so we think our juice is bad (so, yes, this part is crucial)
C2. Using food grade / not using pharmaceutical grade ingredients, we are inhaling a vapor, not eating (digesting them) please note that.
C3. Overflavoring, it will make our taste buds screaming out and our brain can't decide what are we going to tell what flavor is, please note that we are using a concentrate, it's a strong one, we just need a little of it.
C4. VAPE right after mixing, explained at B10
C5. Not steeping the juice well B11
C6. Not following the right mixing step B1-B15
C7. Impatient
C8. Not using iron man suits (don't take this seriously)
Additional Notes :
- For those who experiencing dry mouth you can add saline water (0.9%) 1 drop/ml for watery mouth effects (this will change the flavor a bit salty) and repeat B11 for 24 hours and start vape it again.
- For FULL VG lovers make sure you have steep the flavor well before going to add the rest unflavored VG, also add more SHAKE time and 3 days more of steep time, VG is harder to dilute
- Drip Tip affect the flavor, the narrower drip tip the more intense you'll get the flavor, but don't use too narrow drip tip for build below 0.5ohm, it will make the vapor turn into a drop of juice to your lips/tongue/mouth. Use the one that fit just right (same wide) with your tank airflow (the one that go from the coil to the driptip)
IMAGES library :
VG+PG Pharmaceutical Grade :
vgpgpharmgrade.jpg
Coil build :
ss316L24gs5x.jpg
Wicking :
wicking.jpg
Final build wicking : (make sure there's a tiny hole from the cotton to the tank)
final build.jpg
OK I think that's it I hope it will help you out and I would like to hear your experience in the future, I'm sorry if I mistype or everything, I'm here to share to everyone who need it, any feedback will be appreciated.
CHEERS and KEEP VAPING
regards,
Adit
Before I get to the point this is my story :
I was a heavy smoker and I've start vaping a year ago and bought eVic VTC mini mod and kangertech subtank mini tank
first time at the vape store they're offering me a premium US liquid five pawns (bowden's mate) 30ml and I like it at the first time I've tried it, its a chocolate mint french vanilla flavor with 0 nicotine (I assume I can stop smoking with 0 nic) I really like it and I vape so hard till my first coil (0.5ohm) default coil felt weird, so I change it to an rba one and making my first build with default coil also, tried it, very bad taste almost no flavor, and.. I did a research in the same day and bought a clapton coil, made a build, and boom! the flavor is back.. and back to vaping hard till I'm out of my first bottle, while in the last liquid in my tank still going I do a research for a DIY e liquid, I was so excited and found a supplier, bought a set of everything I need, opening e juice calculator, my first flavoring was from singapore, doing everything nothing works, all got is a very bad taste, I feel desperate and bought another e-juice from Indonesian brewer which is very good too! I bought around 5-8 30ml bottle and I try to mix it with my pg vg and also mint which I'm addicted to a cool feeling around my mouth and troath, and it's still good.. there's something I'm missing here in my diy e-juice, I did a research and keep trying for a year and finally got an answer, one of the top brewer here share how to make a good liquid, the key is research, try, and PATIENT, yeah the last thing is the most important key, I also bought an ultrasonic cleaner because I lack of patient.. but NOW I can make a real nice diy e-juice for myself because of PATIENT and research also we need more effort to make a good things really GOOD.
PREPARE :
1. RDA/RTA with good coil and wicking (SS316L giving the cleanest taste, ordering a ceramic atm and I will share if I got a good experience with it)
2. MOD with good batteries (20A continuous) 30-40A power
3. Pure grain alcohol (this is used to clean your rta/rda)
4. VG (Vegetable Glycerin) + PG (Propylene Glycol) (both Pharmaceutical Grade) is the KEY#1 (bad experience with food grade)
5. Flavoring (TFA recommended) is the KEY#2
6. Nicotine base (PG) if you dont have allergies it will dilute faster
7. 4 different pipets to determind how much (flavor, PG, VG, nicbase) needed
8. Sweetener (Sucralose Pharmaceutical Grade) I got it from a supplier in my country I'm sorry I can't inform you about the detail but you can find one in your country with a dropper bottle -optional- (I have bad experience with stevia and sorbitol they changed the flavor)
9. A few glass (recommended) or plastic bottles 10ml/30ml/50ml/100ml (it depend on how sure you are with your flavor)
10. Surgical gloves (use it to prevent direct touch with the nicotine base)
11. Gas mask and iron man suit (Just kidding
)12. PATIENT
13. It's better you have your DIY Bases from different vendor to get a juice that you desire than to force buying from 1 vendor and make your juice bad - KEY #3
-WE WILL HAVE GREAT RESULTS FROM GREAT INGREDIENTS-
so, this is the MOST IMPORTANT RULES before we go into DIY :
A1. We must MAKE SURE that our RDA/RTA/RDTA gave us the real flavor of the juice, single hole direct to the coil from bottom goes straight trough our mouth and a good wicking is the key (what giving me the BEST flavor is kangertech subtank mini) with 24gs 4-6 wraps SS316L (0.3ohm), with SS coil it will need less voltage to get hot (3-3.2v) (30-35w) with japanese cotton and wick it so tight but make sure to shrink the other side so the cotton will absorb well and give it a little bit hole for liquid to get in. I don't recommend to try it with side airflow rda, bottom airflow is the BEST for flavor
A2. 1st part must be done with our favorite RDA/RTA/RDTA, next, smell our juice with our nose and try it with the best juice you have now, repeat until you get the best taste, prepare a water to drink with with you.
A3. Now your RDA/RTA/RDTA is ready, repeat #1 and taste/vape a few times your VG alone, and VG+PG (your desire %) alone, after that you'll have your wicking is wet of them, let it be. (what it does is to make sure your VG/PG is unflavored and let the cotton taste out, just put around 10 drops of it)
before going to DIY section make sure you have read below but don't do it yet, and make your calculation with e-juice calculator which can be found somewhere in google, I can't provide the link, when ready, do with the following step below.
OK, now the DIY section, this PART must be done step by step, please don't change any step AT ALL :
B1. Put PG (Propylene Glycol) (your desire %) in 10ml bottle first (add nicotine base too) - SHAKE IT
B2. Put flavor (if recommended flavor is 1-5% then put 1%) overflavoring is the most diyers mistakes (I'm one of them in the first time)
B3. Put sweetener (10% pg sucralose is 3-10%) depend on how sweet tooth you are (I use 8%) if you are using TFA sweetener then 1 drop per 10ml is enough - dont shake yet -optional-
B4. Put diluted menthol of your own desire (I use 10-30 drops) on 10% diluted menthol crystal -optional-
B5. SHAKE it now and let it be for 1 hour (bottle closed)
B6. So now we have PG+flavor+nic base(optional)+sweetener(optional)+menthol(optional)
B7. Back to the bottle, smell it, you will smell excatly the same after you steep in this step! so you must to make sure if it's good enough then please stop adding flavor, if it's too weak you can add 1% more flavor, SHAKE it, and let it be for another hour, repeat. Just don't overflavoring it will ruin your juice
B8. Once you got your desire flavor, put the rest VG (Vegetable Glycerin) to it.
B9. SHAKE WELL for 30 secs non stop until it has so many little bubble, if you have magnetic stirring then it would be good too, my experience with ultrasonic cleaner is sometimes it will kill some flavor, use it only for 10 minutes at max to fasten recover the bubble after shaking.
B10. THIS IS THE KEY : don't vape any single drops from your liquid because your liquid (most common diyers mistake too), because they're not mixed well enough to vape, you will probably vape your only sucralose and it will be soo bad..
B11. KEY #2 let it be for another hour, open the bottle, let it be for 2 hours, close the bottle, SHAKE again, let it be for 24 hour, SHAKE, repeat until 3 days (at least)
B12. So now we have a WELL MIXED liquid on the 3rd day, SHAKE it, and we can start VAPE it
B13. KEY #3 this time you can decide if you have a good mix or not, you can add sweetener / menthol / nicotine base too here, but NOT FLAVOR, if you think the flavor is bad then you must repeat from the first step.
B14. KEY #4 most flavor will get better everyday, dont steep too fast or too long, we can do it just right
if you have yours good when you smell and taste you can start a bigger batch and you will surprise if you do the step B11 for 7 daysB15. NOW we have the juice to vape all day, repeat everything to get your desired e-liquid flavors!
COMMON MISTAKES :
C1. Not using the right coil build and wicking on the rda/rta so we think our juice is bad (so, yes, this part is crucial)
C2. Using food grade / not using pharmaceutical grade ingredients, we are inhaling a vapor, not eating (digesting them) please note that.
C3. Overflavoring, it will make our taste buds screaming out and our brain can't decide what are we going to tell what flavor is, please note that we are using a concentrate, it's a strong one, we just need a little of it.
C4. VAPE right after mixing, explained at B10
C5. Not steeping the juice well B11
C6. Not following the right mixing step B1-B15
C7. Impatient
C8. Not using iron man suits (don't take this seriously
)Additional Notes :
- For those who experiencing dry mouth you can add saline water (0.9%) 1 drop/ml for watery mouth effects (this will change the flavor a bit salty) and repeat B11 for 24 hours and start vape it again.
- For FULL VG lovers make sure you have steep the flavor well before going to add the rest unflavored VG, also add more SHAKE time and 3 days more of steep time, VG is harder to dilute
- Drip Tip affect the flavor, the narrower drip tip the more intense you'll get the flavor, but don't use too narrow drip tip for build below 0.5ohm, it will make the vapor turn into a drop of juice to your lips/tongue/mouth. Use the one that fit just right (same wide) with your tank airflow (the one that go from the coil to the driptip)
IMAGES library :
VG+PG Pharmaceutical Grade :
vgpgpharmgrade.jpg
Coil build :
ss316L24gs5x.jpg
Wicking :
wicking.jpg
Final build wicking : (make sure there's a tiny hole from the cotton to the tank)
final build.jpg
OK I think that's it I hope it will help you out and I would like to hear your experience in the future, I'm sorry if I mistype or everything, I'm here to share to everyone who need it, any feedback will be appreciated.
CHEERS and KEEP VAPING
regards,
Adit
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