Depending on atty and build, I use between 3 and 10 ml a day at 12mg/ml 60-70% PG.
My hunch is nic is reletively harmless to a person of average health. I'm not negative about nic. The relationship between smoking nic and vaping nic is worth understanding for a few reasons. I decided to do DIY to save money and to insure against government interference so that raised the question, how long will my supply last. If I have to vape 72 mg per day a 1 liter bottle is good for 3-4 years. If 25 mg is enough it goes up to 13 years. As I'm thinking about that I wonder, do I really need to consume 72 mg per day? So the last few days I changed my habits in ways that mean I vape less. Was I jonsing because of that, for the most part no. I'd like to be vaping fewer ml's and less nic because, why not? So I started this thread to try and get a handle on what other people are doing with nic mg's per day. If enough people post there might be a pattern. May be the only difference between the high nic vapers and low nic vapers is something arbitrary and easily manipulated.You avoided my questions posed in post #9. What is so magical about 25mg per day? What exactly is so terrible about exceeding it? Is your number framed by intense negative nic propaganda or the facts and science?
Sorry to be asking the hard questions...
Sounds like you just need a couple more liters of nicMy hunch is nic is reletively harmless to a person of average health. I'm not negative about nic. The relationship between smoking nic and vaping nic is worth understanding for a few reasons. I decided to do DIY to save money and to insure against government interference so that raised the question, how long will my supply last. If I have to vape 72 mg per day a 1 liter bottle is good for 3-4 years. If 25 mg is enough it goes up to 13 years. As I'm thinking about that I wonder, do I really need to consume 72 mg per day? So the last few days I changed my habits in ways that mean I vape less. Was I jonsing because of that, for the most part no. I'd like to be vaping fewer ml's and less nic because, why not? So I started this thread to try and get a handle on what other people are doing with nic mg's per day. If enough people post there might be a pattern. May be the only difference between the high nic vapers and low nic vapers is something arbitrary and easily manipulated.
I started vaping to get control of my smoking. It worked. For the first 6 weeks it gave me 80% control. After 6 weeks and a bit of effort I got it to 100%. Now a year later I'm thinking it's time to have some control of my vaping. The stakes are not so high this time but I'd rather be in control of it than the reverse.Sounds like you just need a couple more liters of nic![]()
If I were trying to get control of my vaping I would concentrate on ml vaped not mg. for a lot of reasons.I started vaping to get control of my smoking. It worked. For the first 6 weeks it gave me 80% control. After 6 weeks and a bit of effort I got it to 100%. Now a year later I'm thinking it's time to have some control of my vaping. The stakes are not so high this time but I'd rather be in control of it than the reverse.
Part of it is figuring out the best relationship to have with vaping and how to get there.
Cigarettes contain between 8-20 mg of nicotine, most average around 12 mg. When smoking a cigarette with 12 mg of nicotine your body absorbs around 0.95-1 mg of nic. The more you smoke, the more nicotine your body receives.So I've been doing 72mg per say. A cig has 1mg. When I was smoking 25 a day that was 25mg of nic. I'm wondering if I can get my vape down to that. If I could do that a 1 liter bottle of 100mg nic would be a 13 year supply.
I stand corrected. I read up on it some more and found this. The 1mg of nic in a cig comes from government testing of the "yeild", meaning what is in the smoke. It seems likely that a lot of the nic would be incinerated and some would survive by being boiled away before it got hot enough to burn. The yeld from vaping should be near 100% because nothing is burned, everything is boiled. The amount of nic absorbed by the lungs in smoke vs vapor is another question.Cigarettes contain between 8-20 mg of nicotine, most average around 12 mg. When smoking a cigarette with 12 mg of nicotine your body absorbs around 0.95-1 mg of nic. The more you smoke, the more nicotine your body receives.
Scientists have proven that smoke from a cigarette is thinner than the vape from a vapor pen/mod. Your body will absorb less nicotine from vape, scientist have not been able to prove how much your body actually absorbs from vaping..yet, or at least that I know of.
The last time I tried I ended up taking more puffs so things worked out the same. I want to reduce ml's of liquid too. As mentioned in a previous post. I got control of my smoking. I want to do the same with vaping.About 4.5ml's per day, and currently (this week) I'm at 5.3mg, which gives 23.85mg per day. Next week I'll be at 5mg, where I'll be staying, which will put me at 22.5mg per day. Reducing nicotine is like falling off a log, if you do it slowly enough -- like .5mg reduction each week. FARRRRRRRRR easier than reducing WTA level.
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The last time I tried I ended up taking more puffs so things worked out the same. I want to reduce ml's of liquid too. As mentioned in a previous post. I got control of my smoking. I want to do the same with vaping.
A group we never hear about is smokers who switched to vaping then stopped vaping and didn't relapse to cigarettes. I wonder how many of those there are.
If I were trying to get control of my vaping I would concentrate on ml vaped not mg. for a lot of reasons.
There is the 25mg per day I was looking for. Getting by on 1 ml a day is also nice. How many cigs a day were you smoking when you quit? As far as feeling better, vaping is more stress than breathing air. Less vaping is better than more. To figure out your daily ml with dripping count the drops from your usual bottle into a syringe to 2 ml and divide by 2. Then as the day wears on record the number of drops. The sized of drops can vary. A typical number of drops might be 40-45. I use a 3 ml syringe to do that. Almost any pharmacy should be able to give you one without the needle. Explain you are measuring an ingrediant.First half of this year I was vaping about 5ml of 6mg. I decided I wanted to vape less. and switched to 24mg (and unflavored) a few months ago. I think I'm using about 1ml a day. It's harder to measure since I only drip now. I feel happier vaping less often, though it's very hard to explain why that is. Less foreign stuff in my lungs is good, but that's not core reason.
Your amount is close enough to 25mg to count. May be the absorbtion of nic in vaping is about the same as from smoking. The unburned nic in cigarette smoke is about 1 mg per cigarette, some percent of that is absorbed by the body. I wonder if the absorbtion rate of nic from vaper is similar. I suspect it is.During my initial days, I vape 18mg around 6ml per day. I quit smoking for the last 2 years and now vaping between 3-6mg and around 6-7 ml and on weekend usually play with subohm will consume around 10-12ml of juices Sent from Gotham City using Tapatalk
5-7 ml of 15mg, so 75-105 mg/day.Nic mg x daily ml of liquid. I'm asking to get some perspective on what I'm doing now and to set a goal for what I want to be doing going forward. I've been vaping 6 ml of 12 mg nic per day which is 72 mg of nic per day. What are others doing?
Absorption from vapor is less efficient than from smoke. I have a fuzzy recollection that at least one study was done that found that people self-titrate to lower nic levels in the blood when they vape rather than smoke.So I've been doing 72mg per say. A cig has 1mg. When I was smoking 25 a day that was 25mg of nic. I'm wondering if I can get my vape down to that.
Or you could just get a bigger freezer.If I could do that a 1 liter bottle of 100mg nic would be a 13 year supply.