How many drops to a ml?

[KillTheNoise]

Have some 100% pg @ 36mg nicotine and I wanted to spice up some of my lower nicotine juices that I though would do the job (not so much!!). Roughly how many drops would be in a mL? I've read some other places that 20ish is a mL, but I trust ECF first! TY!

 

[Moonstruck]

It depends on your dropper; they are not all the same.

For example, the dripper tip on my 5ml plastic bottles gives me 32 drops/ml on average. But all liquids are not the same; some are more viscous and would produce fewer drops/ml.

So you really need to measure.

 

[Dooz]

All depends on hole size of dropper device and makeup of liquid. Larger hole and thicker juice, less drops. Typical 10 ml bottles at 100% pg that i have, I've found to be 23-30.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Every liquid will have different "drop numbers" than any other liquid in the same dropper. And every different dropper will have different "drop numbers" with the same liquid. The ONLY way to get an accurate count is to DO IT with a specific liquid and a specific dropper, and count the drops it takes to male 1ml (or 10ml), do it several times, and take an average.

OF course, this number will also vary depending on temperature, humidity, barometric pressure and how far above sea level you are.

It you are REALLY that obsessed with accuracy in mixing your DIY, you need to forget all about the idea of "drops" and use ml's and fractions of ml's. Measured volume is MUCH more accurate than drops...

 

[Susaz]

Use this to be sure... eJuice Recipe Calculator

 

[KillTheNoise]

It's a 30ml bottle with a 'regular' sized plastic dripper tip. :/ I don't care about being accurate, I just don't want to over do it on my juice and ruin it...guess I'll have to just try a small amount and work my way up.

 

[AzPlumber]

Never measure nicotine using drops per ml. This method is just too inaccurate for something as dangerous as nicotine.

 

[Dooz]

Never measure nicotine using drops per ml. This method is just too inaccurate for something as dangerous as nicotine.

VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY TRUE! I cannot add enough verys

 

[KillTheNoise]

I agree it isn't the best method of doing this to say the least, but I think if I gradually, and slightly, increase it until I feel it's better would be my best bet. I do not have any mL droppers or test kits for testing it, but I'm smart enough not to empty a 1/4 of the bottle into a 15ml bottle and call it good. I'm figuring just going drop by drop or two...

 

[Levitas]

If you're going to use drops, just take whatever you're dripping with, fill it with water, and drip into a measured cup (for example: the cup that comes with cough medicine). Count the drops, take note, then proceed with the nicotine. (I guess I should edit in, before someone decides to make debate of said comment: One should note that water will not have the same consistency as a nic-base, even if the base is all PG. this method is merely a more suitable way of estimating, leaving less room for quess, and a more precise estimate as to alleviate any issues with 'overdoing' it, so to speak. Of course, one could just drip the base itself into the cup, but I say water, because we use those measuring cups for medicine, and regardless of an ability wash it after nicotine has been used in it, it's just my personal preference not to.)

You're using 36mg nicotine, therefore, you cannot go above 36mg total nicotine in the final blend. No matter what, whenever you add anything else into the blend, it will consequently dilute the overall nicotine in the blend. Personally, I don't find the practice of using drops to be that much of a danger while using this strength of nic-base. However, I would always recommend being thorough, and concise when dealing with nicotine, no matter the strength.

Using drops, though, sure (use the before mentioned method?). If you plan on utilizing a more concentrated nic-base in the future, throw in a syringe or two for more accurate results.

 

[Iffy]

The ONLY joose component that I trust with drops is concentrated flavors! But, I also use only one dropper for flav additions. And that one dropper is 'calibrated' for each flav and recorded within my recipe.

BTW, I premix my nic base (nic/PG/VG/ratio) so that I only need to count flav drops for the concentrated flavs.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Never measure nicotine using drops per ml. This method is just too inaccurate for something as dangerous as nicotine.

However, if you are STARTING with 36mg nic liquid, it's going to be almost impossible to get a final nic level if you are using a DIY calculator that is high enough to be problematic. In fact it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a nic level higher than 36, and pretty difficult to get anything over 24 if you are using any sort of flavoring or sweetener...

This is only REALLY a safety issue if you are using the really high nic level liquids like 100mg, in which case, you really SHOULD be using ALL precautions--a vapor hood, gloves, a mask and accurate mechanical or digital pipettes or ml-graduated syringes or beakers...

 

[Levitas]

But, I also use only one dropper for flav additions. And that one dropper is 'calibrated' for each flav and recorded within my recipe.

BTW, I premix my nic base (nic/PG/VG/ratio) so that I only need to count flav drops for the concentrated flavs.

Precisely. You've calibrated the amount of drops per milliliter, thus making it feasible to use the dripping application over say a more precise method of measurement, like a syringe. I agree with you, and in fact, I use drops in all of my recipes, over %'s, because I do not personally like a lot of flavor (thus far) in my blends. Generally, I rarely go over 5 drops per 5mls, unless it's a blend composed of multiple flavorings (regardless if they're concentrated, or not).

 

[KillTheNoise]

You say I cannot go ABOVE 36mg nicotine while using the 36mg PG I have...is there a quick way to explain that, or maybe a link where I can read why that is? Thanks to everyone so far btw.


edit- I think this is getting off topic kind of. The only thing I am shooting for is increasing the nic. levels in juice I have ordered from vendors online. I bought some 100%PG 36mg nic at a local B&M shop and I'm trying to find the best way to add this to my current juices that are only 9mg nicotine.

I find 18% to be my most favorable vape...so the closer the better, I just don't know the best way (withOUT using a calibrated dropper or testing kits, etc.). That is my question.

 

[Levitas]

You say I cannot go ABOVE 36mg nicotine while using the 36mg PG I have...is there a quick way to explain that, or maybe a link where I can read why that is? Thanks to everyone so far btw.

Well, look at it this way. If you've a 36mg nic-base, right? If you add anything to that base, it will consequently lower the overall nicotine in the said base (diluting). No matter what you do, the only thing you can do to maintain, or go above 36mg as a finished product, is to either:

1.) Add nothing to the base, thus keeping it at 36mg. Or,
2.) Adding a more concentrated nic-base (like 60mg) to umph the total nicotine in the blend.

Does that make sense?

 

[KillTheNoise]

Well, look at it this way. If you've a 36mg nic-base, right? If you add anything to that base, it will consequently lower the overall nicotine in the said base (diluting). No matter what you do, the only thing you can do to maintain, or go above 36mg as a finished product, is to either:

1.) Add nothing to the base, thus keeping it at 36mg. Or,
2.) Adding a more concentrated nic-base (like 60mg) to umph the total nicotine in the blend.

Does that make sense?

Ah I see what you're saying now, that does make sense, however...I'm adding this PG base to a 9mg nicotine juice trying to up it to around 18mg. Not adding juice to the 36mg PG base.

 

[dsy5]

Well, just stop and think about it - how could you possibly make something any higher than that with which you are adding? It would be like taking a glass of milk and pouring it into a glass of water - is that glass of water ever going to be more concentrated than the milk you started with? Even if you added the whole glass of milk to the water, at best you would have 50% milk and 50% water.

 

[Levitas]

Ah I see what you're saying now, that does make sense, however...I'm adding this PG base to a 9mg nicotine juice trying to up it to around 18mg. Not adding juice to the 36mg PG base.

I see what you're saying. You can do as you have originally said, and add drop by drop, until you find the juice to be to your satisfaction.

However, if you're wishing for the end result to be accurate, you will need to take into account all of the variables involved to reach a proper end to your equation.

How much of the 9mg juice do you have (mls)
You'd need to use a concise measuring device (measuring cup, syringe, calibrating your dripper so you know how many drops/ml, etc.)

 

[dsy5]

Also keep in mind that the more base you add, the weaker the flavor will be.

EDIT: Unless the base is flavored, of course.

 

[KillTheNoise]

Gonna give it a go, tyvm for the help.