Highest voltage you can vape???

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How extreme can you take it? Anyone ever go over 7-8 volts. Seriously im curious to know just how high you can go (safely). Thinking of building a tube mod that will take 4-5 18650s. I don't want to build anything that wont work or will be to dangerous so someone chime in here. How extreme can you go??

What do you mean by "Tube Mod"...all mechanical, or regulated (with electronics in it)?

Don't stack batteries in an all-mech tube mod, IMHO. Not that it can't be done, but in vastly increases the risks since amp-limits don't stack but voltage does.

OTOH, I stack batteries in a regulated (bucking regulator...simple linear regulator) all the time...in a box mod that cannot build up pressure.

Research 1st. Think. Research more. Think again. Then build.

Also research vent holes, battery swelling, and fuses.
 

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I have heard of cases of people vaping over 10 volts and this can be done safely if you have the correct knowledge when doing so. Things is, at these temperatures you must have the juice at a constant feed to the coil or else you will get burn issues withing seconds. Normal wicking through silica or cotton can not produce the necessary wicking to sustain good flavor

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How extreme can you take it? Anyone ever go over 7-8 volts. Seriously im curious to know just how high you can go (safely). Thinking of building a tube mod that will take 4-5 18650s. I don't want to build anything that wont work or will be to dangerous so someone chime in here. How extreme can you go??

The amount of current drawn will always be equal to the voltage divided by the resistance. You can vape at whatever voltage you want as long as you adjust the resistance of the coil accordingly, though things start getting dangerous over 50V due to the risk of electrocution. One thing to bear in mind, though, is that higher resistance is usually achieved by using thicker wire in the coil which will take more power to heat. So vaping at lower voltages is actually more efficient.
 

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JuiceBakery - After the thread you had deleted earlier today, I'm glad you took a step back to have more simple questions answered first. Since power supply seems to be where you are focusing I'd recommend just reading as much as you can in Battery Mods sub forum. It may take longer to get answers there than you would in general e-smoking but at least you'd be more likely to get answers from people with experience. Within the modding section is also other sub-forums you may want to read up on.

There are many factors at work including surface area and ohms of the coil, juice tolerance to heat, portablility and more to consider. The thread you had deleted indicated you wanted to vape a 24 watts. There are many reasons this is inadvisable.
 

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ive been vaping a smoktech zmax mini with an innokin iclear 30 2.0ohm at 9-13 watts....usually 10.5 for most flavors. most of my friends have trouble with 8 watts....sometimes even 6 watts. vaping at 24 watts?!? your going to run through some smoke juice fast! and probably choke alot too... lol i say tinker around, make a few mods and work your way up till you hit the vape you want. who knows, you may be happy with 10-15 watts which can be done with a zmax or other 5amp apv's.
 
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How extreme can you take it? Anyone ever go over 7-8 volts. Seriously im curious to know just how high you can go (safely). Thinking of building a tube mod that will take 4-5 18650s. I don't want to build anything that wont work or will be to dangerous so someone chime in here. How extreme can you go??

Like a few people have indicated, it's not really about the volts. It's the power or watts that matter.

Learn Ohm's law. There is a online calculator here. Plug in volts and resistance and it fills in the rest.

If you were to stack 4 batteries you would have a nominal voltage of 14.8. That would draw 22 watts at 10 ohms. Making a 10 ohm coil would require very thin wire which I doubt would vape well. You can get all the power you need from one battery.

Besides it's not IMO safe to stack batts, especially multiple batts, in a mechanical mod. Suggest you learn about batteries, ohms law and how it works in vaping, read the RBA forum here and the modding forum here. Take your time, there's a lot to learn.

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...If you were to stack 4 batteries you would have a nominal voltage of 14.8. That would draw 22 watts at 10 ohms. Making a 10 ohm coil would require very thin wire which I doubt would vape well. You can get all the power you need from one battery....
Yeah, but how about if he went sub-ohm? Say, a nice 0.5 ohm coil on that baby. 438 watts, 29.6 amps - Darwin Awards, here we come! :D
 
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How extreme can you take it? Anyone ever go over 7-8 volts. Seriously im curious to know just how high you can go (safely). Thinking of building a tube mod that will take 4-5 18650s. I don't want to build anything that wont work or will be to dangerous so someone chime in here. How extreme can you go??
all related to OHM's law

Depends on the WATTS (aka power) you are hunting for

If you had a coil with 10Ω's you could kick the volts way up and still get the result you are looking for by using a standard 3.7vdc battery and trying to go sub ohm (that's what sub ohmers are going for...more POWER with limited/restricted voltage capabilities)

Lets do the math

say you want to go 7 Watts right out of your cig lighter

13.8vdc out of your vehicle, 7 watts, you need to push .507 amps...to get .507amps with 13.8vdc you would need a coil of 27.2Ω

Ohm's Law Calculator

Say you wanted 20 watts
9.5Ω

It's OHM's "LAW" not OHM's "SUGGESTION"

4-5 18650's in series or parallel, parallel you would get battery output voltage x the combined total of the mAh of the batteries, in series, you add the voltages...8 batteries at 3.7-4.2vdc = 30.16-33.6

Calculate what watts you are looking for and it will tell you the resistance you need to be at

Go look at an electric kitchen range..same principle just MUCH MUCH BIGGER...220vdc, HUGE COIL at high resistance = red hot coils...they push several hundred watts....only problem is...it takes a LONG time to heat up all that metal, 32gauge wire heats and cools REALLY quick
 
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well ... *cough*

you can go as high as you build your atomizer to handle. personally I think it's an area for forward exploration, for example I get better performance out of my 3.2 ohm single coil octopus at 20w (~8.1v) than my 0.8 ohm dual coil nimbus clone at 20w.

at a certain point as mentioned there is some risk of shock so i would certainly want to stay below that.

I have heard of cases of people vaping over 10 volts and this can be done safely if you have the correct knowledge when doing so. Things is, at these temperatures you must have the juice at a constant feed to the coil or else you will get burn issues withing seconds. Normal wicking through silica or cotton can not produce the necessary wicking to sustain good flavor

nah, you could do 10v on silica no problem.
 
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well ... *cough*

you can go as high as you build your atomizer to handle. personally I think it's an area for forward exploration, for example I get better performance out of my 3.2 ohm single coil octopus at 20w (~8.1v) than my 0.8 ohm dual coil nimbus clone at 20w.

at a certain point as mentioned there is some risk of shock so i would certainly want to stay below that.



nah, you could do 10v on silica no problem.
Ding ding ding

Notice, normal resistance coil...MORE voltage = higher wattage and the coil DOESN'T look like a short (causing 'splody 'splody) to the battery

It would actually be safer for sub ohmers to up the volts on regular resistance coils than go closer to a pure short
 

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Tthough things start getting dangerous over 50V due to the risk of electrocution.

I think vapers are even more susceptible to this because we stick the sparkly bit in out mouth. This one time i rebuilt my rsst i started getting the strangest sensation at my lips, was very weak but kinda salty and only occurred when i was holding down the power button. Soon i figured it out - the extra wire from the positive lead was making contact with the mouthpiece (which is supposed to be negatively charged but apparently not that well) and i was getting zapped in my mouth :p
 
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