Good Titanium Wire Sources
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I have an order for some Ti from fasttech on its way. Really curious how it'll perform.
There is no fire here and no one is adding fuel. Just setting the record straight to move past it so the rest of the conversation can stay on point.
That's what I wanted to know Marc, thanks... there is a source on Amazon selling Ti Grade 1 (24g only) but it didn't specify 99.5% pure. I called the vendor to ask and he said it was, but when wire is sold in bulk without a label or spool (that's how this wire is pictured anyway) it's hard to be sure I guess without the vendor having a reputation of trust. Maybe that's overly paranoid.
But when you're inhaling the stuff... Amazon.com : Titanium Wire Gr. 1 Pure .50 Mm 50 Ft. Round Wire : Everything ElseLink is for reference... not personally recommending... just pointing out.
Mind providing a link? Curious if it's matte finish or shiny. Any idea?
+1 for Unkamen 
Read good things about Spider Silk as well but only used Ti G1 from Unkammen personally.
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You get OUT-What YOU put IN.
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Ti.... GET SOME
Read good things about Spider Silk as well but only used Ti G1 from Unkammen personally.
Haters attract & spawn Haters. AND,,,, They Like it That Way
You get OUT-What YOU put IN.
Natural Law. Not Opinion.
Ti.... GET SOME
Trayce,
I looked at the global map and couldn't find Multiversal, it has to be a very small Island in the South Pacific
If you are in the CONUS I could send you a little to check out. If you want some shoot me a PM with your information and I'll stick some in the mail.
Its easy to build with this wire and produces great vapor. It works well in both TI and Ni200 modes on all the devices I own.
I looked at the global map and couldn't find Multiversal, it has to be a very small Island in the South Pacific
If you are in the CONUS I could send you a little to check out. If you want some shoot me a PM with your information and I'll stick some in the mail.
Its easy to build with this wire and produces great vapor. It works well in both TI and Ni200 modes on all the devices I own.
Really no idea about the finishing. They don't provide any info except it's grade 1 (if that's true...) click
+1 for Unkamen
Read good things about Spider Silk as well but only used Ti G1 from Unkammen personally.
Only thing I read on reddit about Spider Silk (and I didn't read much, just a few posts) but the person using it said it was a bit springy and running it through his fingers left a gray greasy substance he had to burn off. From what I understand almost all Ti has some kind of coating to keep it from corroding which is why it needs to be washed/wiped, but the Ti from Stealth Vapes sounded clean... maybe I'm wrong, but just from reading the reviews I saw.
Note: ECF hyperlinked "reviews" to the ECF review forum... the reviews I read were on Stealth Vapes.
Trayce,
I looked at the global map and couldn't find Multiversal, it has to be a very small Island in the South Pacific
If you are in the CONUS I could send you a little to check out. If you want some shoot me a PM with your information and I'll stick some in the mail.
Its easy to build with this wire and produces great vapor. It works well in both TI and Ni200 modes on all the devices I own.
LOL about the South Pacific! Yes I am in the CONUS and actually, since that's 24g you got there, I might take you up on that. But only if you let me send you some of my Unkamen 26g when it arrives in return. I'll shoot you a PM.
That's a great price there. Be sure to follow up and let us know how you like it!
Was just reading more about Rio Grande where Marc411 gets his 24g Ti G1 wire. ( Titanium Round Wire, 50-ft. Coil, 24-Ga., Soft ) For those who want to buy from a reputable source where you can be sure of the labeling/quality, I'd personally rank this company alongside Unkamen and Stealth Vapes. 70yrs in business founded on old world principles... def a source for the A-List from the looks of their stated principles, history and background. They do only sell 24g or thicker, so for those looking for thinner wire, this won't be the place. But a serious contender otherwise in my book for great value and reputation. Nice find, Marc411!
That is pretty standard. Just Pull the Wire through a cloth soaked with Isopropyl a few times till the Residue is gone and stops showing on the Cloth.
I do that with Kanthal too. No need to "burn-off" unless you just want to.
You can get stuff that's fully annealed and squeaky clean but it is more pricey. They have done all the pre-Prep for the End User so the Added Service/Value costs money. Do It Yourself-don't cost as much... Imagine that huh
I believe the Unkamen Ti to be partially annealed and I don't consider it to be overly "springy". Sure it doesn't immediately hold like Kanthal does but it does not rebound excessively nor is it a Pain to work with in the least.
That is pretty standard. Just Pull the Wire through a cloth soaked with Isopropyl a few times till the Residue is gone and stops showing on the Cloth.
I do that with Kanthal too. No need to "burn-off" unless you just want to.
You can get stuff that's fully annealed and squeaky clean but it is more pricey. They have done all the pre-Prep for the End User so the Added Service/Value costs money. Do It Yourself-don't cost as much... Imagine that huh
Yeah, I hear you.
That's why I was a surprised by the Stealth Vapes stuff ... shiny wire, cleaned up and partially annealed... yet still nicely priced. 6.99 British pounds for 32ft = about $10.91 at the mo' ... $11 for 32 feet of clean wire pckg'd for vaping is darn good. Too bad US vendors don't get some like that and price it the same way. (This price includes UK taxes which are deducted if shipping internationally. See edit below.)
That's great. I have heard nothing but good things about it and am looking forward to its arrival.
EDIT: The wire from Stealth Vapes is only 5.83 pounds (US $9.11) for shipping internationally. Int'l Airmail was quoted as 4.10 pounds (US $6.40) for regular airmail and 8.80 pounds (US $13.74) for tracked airmail. At today's exchange rate that would equal a total cost of $15.50 for 32' for regular airmail, and $23 for tracked airmail. Still far less than Spider Silk per foot.
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Unkamen 26g Ti G1 wire arrived today. As other Unkamen users will testify, it comes in a nice little plastic mini-tub that makes it easy to draw off wire without it unraveling off a spool. There is just enough tension between the lid and body of the tub that the snipped wire end remains there without having to secure it, too. This might sound irrelevant to some, but it's highly convenient to draw off wire against 'built-in' tension, and not have to secure the end, and I wish all my wire came in one of these!
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Cleaned with ISO and did a standard 7-wrap on a 3mm screwdriver for the Lemo Drop for .65ohms.
Used JOC that came with Kanger Subtank Mini (waiting on KJD OC to arrive).
Have never used TC before. The IPV4S I got last week has a Ti mode. Set to Joules, Ti, set resistance, set temp to 325F and joules to 25. First hits were nice but then major burny wick flavor. Set temp to 300F. Same thing after a few chain hits and worse burny wick. Lowered to 275F and 17J. No burny and no flavor either. Methinkinks I might have too thick-a-wick in there. I vape 100% VG. (Juiced up the coil/wick good before assembling so that's not it.)
Aside from having to mess with the mod and get to know TC (I'm slightly paranoid Ti mode isn't working... don't know how cotton can burn in TC mode with temps set this low?!)... the wire was fine to work with. A little springy but not bad by any means. Was quite easy to make a standard coil.
My personal scores for Unkamen:
Packaging: A+ (love that tub!)
Shipping and Service: A+ (responsive to emails and shipped same day)
Trust Factor: A+ (great reputation and high integrity)
Taste Factor: No taste from wire imo
26g Wire: B+ ... only b/c I would like a shiny surface vs matte just b/c I don't know if a matte surface wears or breaks down in the course of using the wire ... certainly not saying it happens... only that absent the knowledge erring on the side of caution makes me lean towards shiny wire as a first choice. If it were shiny I'd give it an A.
A matte finish is certainly not unique to Unkamen though. Most Ti wire sources not packaged for vaping are sold to make jewelry it seems, and most seem to be matte finishes. Maybe some packaged for vaping are also matte, I don't know, but Stealth Vapes specifies shiny.
At this point I am happier with the wire than I am with my mod, though. I hope I just used too much cotton.
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Used JOC that came with Kanger Subtank Mini (waiting on KJD OC to arrive).
Have never used TC before. The IPV4S I got last week has a Ti mode. Set to Joules, Ti, set resistance, set temp to 325F and joules to 25. First hits were nice but then major burny wick flavor. Set temp to 300F. Same thing after a few chain hits and worse burny wick. Lowered to 275F and 17J. No burny and no flavor either.
Methinkinks I might have too thick-a-wick in there. I vape 100% VG. (Juiced up the coil/wick good before assembling so that's not it.)Aside from having to mess with the mod and get to know TC (I'm slightly paranoid Ti mode isn't working... don't know how cotton can burn in TC mode with temps set this low?!)... the wire was fine to work with. A little springy but not bad by any means. Was quite easy to make a standard coil.
My personal scores for Unkamen:
Packaging: A+ (love that tub!)
Shipping and Service: A+ (responsive to emails and shipped same day)
Trust Factor: A+ (great reputation and high integrity)
Taste Factor: No taste from wire imo
26g Wire: B+ ... only b/c I would like a shiny surface vs matte just b/c I don't know if a matte surface wears or breaks down in the course of using the wire ... certainly not saying it happens... only that absent the knowledge erring on the side of caution makes me lean towards shiny wire as a first choice. If it were shiny I'd give it an A.
A matte finish is certainly not unique to Unkamen though. Most Ti wire sources not packaged for vaping are sold to make jewelry it seems, and most seem to be matte finishes. Maybe some packaged for vaping are also matte, I don't know, but Stealth Vapes specifies shiny.
At this point I am happier with the wire than I am with my mod, though.
I hope I just used too much cotton.
I thought Ti didn't need a spaced coil?
Or do you prefer spaced coils? It's what I dislike most with Ni.
Or do you prefer spaced coils? It's what I dislike most with Ni.
Trayce I have better results using the ni200 setting, other than the SX chip most of the others haven't designed their mods with an accurate Ti profile
I got my 1st functional Ti coil going tonight - all I had was 28/30/32AWG so I twisted some 28AWG, 4 wraps on 3mm came to 0.225 ohms. Ti mode on the IPV4S produced Zero vapor, switched to Ni mode with -100F temp setting (actually at 240F) and I'm vaping away.
I think the twisted 28AWG is making up for the lack of winds. (I have 24&26AWG on order) Currently using the build in a STM on my SXMiniM in Ni mode. Seems to work. Maybe the coil will last longer than the Ni ones, to early to tell.
I normally do 7-10 wraps with Ni wire so I've lost a TON of surface area using Ti.
I think the twisted 28AWG is making up for the lack of winds. (I have 24&26AWG on order) Currently using the build in a STM on my SXMiniM in Ni mode. Seems to work. Maybe the coil will last longer than the Ni ones, to early to tell.
I normally do 7-10 wraps with Ni wire so I've lost a TON of surface area using Ti.
No you can do "micro" coils, I boo-boo'd.
Seen so many Rip/Grimm/Pat/etc videos lately on so many devices/wires I forgot which build to do. Wasn't happy with the one above and re-did another standard coil (still forgetting I didn't have to). Still not thrilled went looking for Ti build info... not too many YT vids on it but found an exceedingly helpful tutorial for ppl new to Ti like me and made a really nice micro coil (not really a micro since it was made on 3mm screwdriver, but YKWIM). How to wrap Ti coils for vaping Yes, I even pulsed at 10W (IPV4S won't fire less than 10w in power mode) to pinch the coil... really helpful info there. But by now it was my 3rd coil, was on a mission, and forgot to take pics. But already I'm much happier. Hey, that's great info... and I see George S below has found the same. This IPV4S has the YiHi SX330-V4SN. WIth the new micro coil in it I pushed the temp up to 300F and now it's vaping better. I think my problem was a hot leg on the standard coils. I've always been better at micro's.
But if I have issues I will try switching to Ni mode for the heck of it. (Read in that case should set the temp about 100F lower than targeted temp as Ti heats faster than Ni.)Glad your build is working gangbusters in Ni mode. As to loss of surface area since thicker wire has less resistance your 24g should do the trick with more wraps (when it arrives), no? BTW, where did you get your Ti and where is the 24g coming from?
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Not to get too far off topic, but for ppl new to TC and Ti don't do what I have been doing all night... I forgot you should only set resistance when the atty is cold. All night through all 3 builds I'd be like "what the heck, something's wrong..." and press the buttons to set the resistance in case it was off, and every time I did I got a diff number ... so then did it more to see if the number would still be the same or have changed again, thinking my ohms were walking all over. 
But no, just major user error!!
But no, just major user error!!
No, you've lost a ton of surface area using only 4 wraps.
What's wrong with doing 7 wraps and getting around 0.4 Ohms?
YES to using slightly spaced (one wire width of space in between) Coils of Ti.
Trace, try inverting your Coil where Legs come down from the Top of Coil to your Posts instead of from bottom. Not familiar with your Mod's Ti Firmware or Operation but suspect it is "Off Kilter".
Yes,,,, definitely set & lock Resistance when Coil is COLD....
The Lemos are notorious for a twitchy Pos Pin Connection so it may read a tad off. They definitely add residual Resistance and not as stable or negligible as others such as the Erl Konigin.
As said earlier, try setting Mod in the Ni200 Profile. Set Temp to 290* F and Joules at 18-20. That may just well give you a better Vape with more smooth Flavor and better degree of steady Warmth.
Normally if any Ti Firmware Mod is running in Ti Profile, the Temp should be set MUCH higher than 300* range.
If that doesn't work, it's either your Wicking (Less is More) or possible the Resistance is a tad high. Try a 6/5 Wrap and lower the Ohms. My L2 works best with around a .23 Ohm range (I wrap on a 2.6mm I.D.). I use a Wicking Method of a mix of the Qorax Method and standard Lemo Brush Method. Wicks awesome and NEVER leaks into Air Chamber or up the Chimney nor does it ever Dry-Hit. Assume the L Drop is same or very close in Needs in that regard. I posted my Ti TC Build & Wick Process with Pics on the Lemo 2 Thread if ya want to take a peek.
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Not saying it's the "End All" or the Only Way. Just that after much Trial and Error/Blah Results, this works great for me and mine. Might help,,, might not.
Good Write Up and Review on Unkamen.
Would have sold me on it if not already a Fan.
Don't give up on the Ti TC Deal. When you get it dialed-in for you,,,,
You will be forever In Love with it. And that's coming from a previousy Die-Hard Mech Warrior who had sworn off Variables and all its "Hocus Pocus"
Trace, try inverting your Coil where Legs come down from the Top of Coil to your Posts instead of from bottom. Not familiar with your Mod's Ti Firmware or Operation but suspect it is "Off Kilter".
Yes,,,, definitely set & lock Resistance when Coil is COLD....
The Lemos are notorious for a twitchy Pos Pin Connection so it may read a tad off. They definitely add residual Resistance and not as stable or negligible as others such as the Erl Konigin.
As said earlier, try setting Mod in the Ni200 Profile. Set Temp to 290* F and Joules at 18-20. That may just well give you a better Vape with more smooth Flavor and better degree of steady Warmth.
Normally if any Ti Firmware Mod is running in Ti Profile, the Temp should be set MUCH higher than 300* range.
If that doesn't work, it's either your Wicking (Less is More) or possible the Resistance is a tad high. Try a 6/5 Wrap and lower the Ohms. My L2 works best with around a .23 Ohm range (I wrap on a 2.6mm I.D.). I use a Wicking Method of a mix of the Qorax Method and standard Lemo Brush Method. Wicks awesome and NEVER leaks into Air Chamber or up the Chimney nor does it ever Dry-Hit. Assume the L Drop is same or very close in Needs in that regard. I posted my Ti TC Build & Wick Process with Pics on the Lemo 2 Thread if ya want to take a peek.
Eleaf Lemo II | Page 60 | E-Cigarette Forum
Not saying it's the "End All" or the Only Way. Just that after much Trial and Error/Blah Results, this works great for me and mine. Might help,,, might not.
Good Write Up and Review on Unkamen.
Would have sold me on it if not already a Fan.Don't give up on the Ti TC Deal. When you get it dialed-in for you,,,,
You will be forever In Love with it. And that's coming from a previousy Die-Hard Mech Warrior who had sworn off Variables and all its "Hocus Pocus"
Should that be YES you've lost a bunch of surface area? (no matter)
I was targeting < 0.3 ohms as well as did not have room for more wraps of the twisted 28AWG. I did make sure I labeled the tank "TI" so I'll know when I mount it to subtract at least 100F from the target temperature. Hopefully the hard and springyness will pay off when it comes time to rewick the thing, IMHO so far TI is a PITA to work with.
I have some 24 and 26AWG on order from Unkamen. (where I got my other sizes) Both orders were shipped the same day as I entered them and I like how the wire is packaged.
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