Getting a burnt taste from my setup. (coil problem possibly)

[TheBerch]

Hi guys, been vaping for about 2 months now. I have not had many issues with my mod, cept for one thing. The person I typically purchase my supplies from juice, mod, tank, coils etc etc. I used to vape around a 2.5ohm coil, but she ran out and had to order more. I recently purchased some 1.8 ohm coils, but when I have them hooked up to my mod and I test it, they say they are running at 2.1ohm. The recommended voltage says to set it to 4.1, but I prefer to vape on wattage mode. I used to vape around a 7-8 watts. It seemed to be the right amount of vapor for me, and the right amount of warmth. But with these new coils, I keep getting a burnt taste. So I snooped around, and everyone said to go to the lowest wattage then, on my mod with is an itaste vv version 3.0 it can only go down to 6 watts. But even at 6 watts, if I take a long draw I will get a burnt taste. If I do a quick one, but not produce all that much vapor I get no burnt taste and some decent flavor. (Her liquids are an 80/20 VG to PG ratio, or its 75/25, i forget what my friend said she uses.) Anyway so even at lowest wattage mode I still get a burnt taste like one out of four times. So I changed it over to volts, and tried the recommended setting which was 4.1. I still got a burnt taste. So I set it to the absolute lowest which is 3.3 volts. I no longer get a burnt taste if I take a long draw, but I hardly get any flavor, nor the warm feeling from it. Im not enjoying it at that level, but if I turn it up I get a burnt taste. I bought 3 coils, 2 of which have done this, so I dont think they are faulty. Also I noticed that even at the lowest volts mode, if I take a few consecutive long draw I will still get a burnt taste on the last vape.

Any advice would be helpful. Is it something as simple as I should be using a higher ohm coil in my mod. Unfortunately im using a t3 tank, could that be the problem? She makes a killer ejuice which I absolutely love. So I might end up buying the iclear and just sticking with my mono liquid for the time being. But again, im not sure. Should I take the coils back? Should I have her puff on it to see what im talking about or what?

So ultimately is nothing wrong, and its just the coils themselves I need to be vaping at such a low amount of volts or what? Like I said above, any insight will be helpful.

 

[happydave]

once a carto is burned its done, you should stop using it.

the "recommended voltage" thing only works if everything is working absolutely perfectly.
getting a good vape is a fine balancing act. and it takes a lot of practice and patience to get all the peices of the puzzle to fall into place each and every time.

no matter what coil and e-liquid you throw on your battery, always start at the lowest power setting and work your way up. giving it a few vapes at each power level. when it starts to taste funky or hot turn the power down until the vape is back to normal. you need to find the sweet spot.
every single carto or coil is different.

when i was using a carto-tank, the cartomizers i was using cost like $4 each. (Boge brand)
they work like a champ the tolerances are always spot on.

 

[Topdogie01]

A few things. Once a carto is burnt depending on what caused it can render it always tasting burnt and useless.

Second, that might be a bit high vg ratio for the carto to wick fast enough.

But you mention a t3. t3 are bottom coil clearomizers. It might be too high of a vg ratio to wick properly. Or too many flavor wicks in the replaceable head, and could try removing one. Higher vg liquids don't wick well and are better dripping.

 

[kiwivap]

Hi - don't know what mod you are using, but I've vaped a lot with vw/vv and you don't need lower resistances to get a good vape. These mods are designed so you can use standard resistances and just turn up the power if you want. So I suggest getting higher ohm coils - 2.4 -2.8 ohms have always worked well for me on all my vw/vv devices - I have a bunch of them.

1.8 ohm coils originally came onto the market for people with less powerful pvs, so they could get a warmer vape with less watts. In your case you may have burnt your coils there.

Also - stock coils can be a bit out on the actual ohms by -/+ 0.2 - so a 1.8 ohm reading 2.1 ohms isn't surprising. I'm a bit surprised about burnt coils because it hasn't happened to me when I've sometimes vaped lower resistances, but it may also be about the coil quality perhaps.

 

[Stosh]

From what you describe it would seem you prefer the higher ohm coils, nothing wrong whit that, some of us do. As a solution for the burnt taste, quickly and easily...let go of the dang fire button...

That is if it's set for 4.1 volts, good vapor and warmth but some burnt taste, pulse the fire button on and off while you take a long draw. It gives the coil a chance to cool a touch and also wick in additional juice. You can adjust the "on" pulses to whatever gives you the best response, instant feedback from whatever you're tasting....

 

[TheBerch]

Its a T3S tank, I know they get bad reviews, but for my price range it didnt seem a bad deal. Now that ive been vaping, and my friend spoils me with his luxurious mods and tanks, im probably going to buy an iclear. It just seemed strange to me that I always got a burnt taste, I only hold the button down for 4-5 seconds on each draw, so I didnt think that was very long to give me a burnt taste at a higher setting. Anyway when I looked up the resistance it says on a 2.1 coil, I should have no problem at 7 watts. Which is what I typically run at. So why do I keep getting a burnt taste I guess is what im asking. And would be changing my coil to a higher ohm, like 2.5 + fix that issue? Cause my friend built me a few coils, and I believe they are 1.8, but he uses cotton for the wick. I can jack that sucker up to 9 watts, and get a good nice vape and zero burnt taste. Is it just because they are stock coils and they are kinda crappy or what? Or maybe the type she gets are kinda crappy?

Also ive been vaping on the lowest voltage setting for about an hour now, and though I no longer get a burnt taste, I dont really get much flavor from it either. Kinda depressing really lol

Also after playing with the volts and watts some more, I cant even run at 6 watts, it just tastes awful. At volts like i said, at the lowest setting is very little flavor, but no more burnt taste. Im running at 3.3 volts at the moment, and when I nudge it up to 3.5 I start to get a burnt taste. Sigh ....

And like i said, this is now the 3rd coil ive tried, so I doubt all 3 could of been bad.

 

[Stosh]

It's been a very long time since I've used a stock coil, so not sure how bad they are these days, re-building you own is a much better option. It's cheaper, reasonably easy with better results....

 

[TheBerch]

It's been a very long time since I've used a stock coil, so not sure how bad they are these days, re-building you own is a much better option. It's cheaper, reasonably easy with better results....

So hit up my friend who builds his own coils and have teach me, or just throw him a few bucks to just keep remaking mine then lol.

 

[Stosh]

Have him teach you, buy him a few beers....

 

[edyle]

Hi guys, been vaping for about 2 months now. I have not had many issues with my mod, cept for one thing. The person I typically purchase my supplies from juice, mod, tank, coils etc etc. I used to vape around a 2.5ohm coil, but she ran out and had to order more. I recently purchased some 1.8 ohm coils, but when I have them hooked up to my mod and I test it, they say they are running at 2.1ohm. The recommended voltage says to set it to 4.1, but I prefer to vape on wattage mode. I used to vape around a 7-8 watts. It seemed to be the right amount of vapor for me, and the right amount of warmth. But with these new coils, I keep getting a burnt taste. So I snooped around, and everyone said to go to the lowest wattage then, on my mod with is an itaste vv version 3.0 it can only go down to 6 watts. But even at 6 watts, if I take a long draw I will get a burnt taste. If I do a quick one, but not produce all that much vapor I get no burnt taste and some decent flavor. (Her liquids are an 80/20 VG to PG ratio, or its 75/25, i forget what my friend said she uses.) Anyway so even at lowest wattage mode I still get a burnt taste like one out of four times. So I changed it over to volts, and tried the recommended setting which was 4.1. I still got a burnt taste. So I set it to the absolute lowest which is 3.3 volts. I no longer get a burnt taste if I take a long draw, but I hardly get any flavor, nor the warm feeling from it. Im not enjoying it at that level, but if I turn it up I get a burnt taste. I bought 3 coils, 2 of which have done this, so I dont think they are faulty. Also I noticed that even at the lowest volts mode, if I take a few consecutive long draw I will still get a burnt taste on the last vape.

Any advice would be helpful. Is it something as simple as I should be using a higher ohm coil in my mod. Unfortunately im using a t3 tank, could that be the problem? She makes a killer ejuice which I absolutely love. So I might end up buying the iclear and just sticking with my mono liquid for the time being. But again, im not sure. Should I take the coils back? Should I have her puff on it to see what im talking about or what?

So ultimately is nothing wrong, and its just the coils themselves I need to be vaping at such a low amount of volts or what? Like I said above, any insight will be helpful.

2.5 ohm 7.5 watts
vxv=2.5x7.5=18.75
v=4.3 volts

for 1.8 ohm at 7.5 watts
vxv=1.8x7.5=13.5
v=3.7 volts

Once you burn some juice on a coil/silica wick, that burnt stuff takes forever to go away till you dryburn.

You are using high VG on a topcoil; that makes for difficult wicking; give your tank a twirl every now and then to wet the coil.

That 6 watt lower limit is one of the drawbacks on the vvv3 and mvp2.

 

[happydave]

So hit up my friend who builds his own coils and have teach me, or just throw him a few bucks to just keep remaking mine then lol.

he is rebuilding your T3S coils? replacing the wire and wick?

 

[kiwivap]

Anyway when I looked up the resistance it says on a 2.1 coil, I should have no problem at 7 watts. Which is what I typically run at. So why do I keep getting a burnt taste I guess is what im asking. And would be changing my coil to a higher ohm, like 2.5 + fix that issue? Cause my friend built me a few coils, and I believe they are 1.8, but he uses cotton for the wick. I can jack that sucker up to 9 watts, and get a good nice vape and zero burnt taste.

That kinda tells you huh. There can be variation between the quality of different stock coils, and also how they perform in devices. Some clearomizers don't do well at high temps for some reason. That seems to be about the coils and the type of clearo combined. A good stock coil can give a very good vape. You might want to try a higher ohm - like 2.6 or even 2.8.
Or try somethingthat has good reports from vapers. I haven't used the iClears but they get good reports, as do the Evods. And the Kanger Protanks. Maybe research a bit if you are looking to get something new.

 

[HoseGarden]

have you taken your tank apart and gotten a nice look at the coil?

if you hold the fire button without actually inhaling its pretty easy to get a burnt tasting hit...

there are so many variables for what's causing your problem and adding wattage to the mix isnt going to make it any easier.

 

[edyle]

Its a T3S tank, I know they get bad reviews, but for my price range it didnt seem a bad deal. Now that ive been vaping, and my friend spoils me with his luxurious mods and tanks, im probably going to buy an iclear. It just seemed strange to me that I always got a burnt taste, I only hold the button down for 4-5 seconds on each draw, so I didnt think that was very long to give me a burnt taste at a higher setting. Anyway when I looked up the resistance it says on a 2.1 coil, I should have no problem at 7 watts. Which is what I typically run at. So why do I keep getting a burnt taste I guess is what im asking. And would be changing my coil to a higher ohm, like 2.5 + fix that issue? Cause my friend built me a few coils, and I believe they are 1.8, but he uses cotton for the wick. I can jack that sucker up to 9 watts, and get a good nice vape and zero burnt taste. Is it just because they are stock coils and they are kinda crappy or what? Or maybe the type she gets are kinda crappy?

Also ive been vaping on the lowest voltage setting for about an hour now, and though I no longer get a burnt taste, I dont really get much flavor from it either. Kinda depressing really lol

Also after playing with the volts and watts some more, I cant even run at 6 watts, it just tastes awful. At volts like i said, at the lowest setting is very little flavor, but no more burnt taste. Im running at 3.3 volts at the moment, and when I nudge it up to 3.5 I start to get a burnt taste. Sigh ....

And like i said, this is now the 3rd coil ive tried, so I doubt all 3 could of been bad.

Loose cotton wicks alot faster than silica wick; the silica wick is like a piece of cloth; the cotton is more like a sponge; so when you fire the coil the liquid keeps soaking through the cotton, but on the silica, it can't soak through fast enough and some of the liquid burns in the fabric of the silica clothlike material and stays there.

T3S seems to be a bottom coil tank; is this it?

Same as the protank coils I use- at least they look the same;
with my bad eyes I still manage to rewick those coils; and ... with cotton; and the cotton does so good I don't even add flavor wicks on top anymore; I used to just dryburn the coil and replace the top wicks with cotton while leaving the silica wick inside, but taking that silica wick out and replaceing with cotton makes it work much better; just gotta use a tweezers and shred off a few strands till it starts unravelling.

 

[TheBerch]

Loose cotton wicks alot faster than silica wick; the silica wick is like a piece of cloth; the cotton is more like a sponge; so when you fire the coil the liquid keeps soaking through the cotton, but on the silica, it can't soak through fast enough and some of the liquid burns in the fabric of the silica clothlike material and stays there.

T3S seems to be a bottom coil tank; is this it?

Same as the protank coils I use- at least they look the same;
with my bad eyes I still manage to rewick those coils; and ... with cotton; and the cotton does so good I don't even add flavor wicks on top anymore; I used to just dryburn the coil and replace the top wicks with cotton while leaving the silica wick inside, but taking that silica wick out and replaceing with cotton makes it work much better; just gotta use a tweezers and shred off a few strands till it starts unravelling.

Yeah my buddy who was rebuilding the coils had a flavor wick with the cotton. But the draw was entirely to hard. Removing the flavor wick made it damn near perfect. Ill try and get a couple coils at higher ohm from the shop. If not I'm going to have my buddy teach me. I watched him do it once and it seemed pretty easy.

I'm just one of those practical guys and it seems like I literally threw away ten bucks at 3$ a coil. But least my friend can redo them.

 

[happydave]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...586-kanger-evod-how-re-wick.html#post12575982

this is the method i use for replacing the wick in kanger heads.

the coil legs are held in place with rubber grommet. this rubber grommet will melt and burn if the legs of the coil become hot.
Kanger uses a special setup for the wire. its known as non-resistance (for the legs) to resistance wire (for the coil). the non res wire is arc welded to the res wire.
when people complain about a burnt taste after rebuilding the kanger coil heads the rubber grommet is the first thing i tell them to check.

you can build / purchase a non res to res wire arc welder. they can be really dangerous (lethal) if you do not fallow the proper safety precautions.

 

[edyle]

Yeah my buddy who was rebuilding the coils had a flavor wick with the cotton. But the draw was entirely to hard. Removing the flavor wick made it damn near perfect. Ill try and get a couple coils at higher ohm from the shop. If not I'm going to have my buddy teach me. I watched him do it once and it seemed pretty easy.

I'm just one of those practical guys and it seems like I literally threw away ten bucks at 3$ a coil. But least my friend can redo them.

I hope you did not throw away the old coils;
After a few days of use, you can rewick the coil with cotton without recoiling; I don't know how long I can keep rewicking a coil but I think it's like maybe 10+ times before something happens like one leg breaks or you fry the coil with too much power or something; if you still have the original set of 2.5 ohm coils they should be rewickable and you can continue vaping them.

Also, if you stopped smoking a few weeks ago, your tastebuds are also changing, so if you're suddenly noticing a more burnt taste it could just be coincidence that you started using 1.8 ohm coils.

 

[DavidOck]

Sounds like you're just running too hot for the lower Ω coils.

That's about the only "problem" with the VV3, the lowest watt setting may not be low enough for some coils and some flavors. (Not all flavors "like" the same power level.)

Try putting it in VV mode, start low and work up.

The T3S is a solid performer in my book. While I use bigger toppers and rebuildables on my tube mods, the T3S is still one of my favorite performers on the smaller batteries. (I never leave the house without at least two devices, both for flavor change and for insurance )

 

[JeremyR]

Your best to open up a new coil head and see how it looks. My guess is stock coil is too tight on the wick choking it off. You can carefully pull a single strand of the silica out of the coil itself to allow it to wick better. Then you may also need to pull some strands out of the overwick too.

You may find some useful info in this thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...roper-size-silica-wick-t3s-protank-coils.html

 

[Asbestos4004]

3 bad stock coils is not at all unheard of. They tend to run in bad batches. VG is thicker and slower to wick than thinner juice. You can thin your juice with a touch of pg or distilled water but at the cost of a little flavor. Rebuilding with micro coils and cotton is not expensive, relatively easy and very rewarding. You won't find a stock coil that performs as well as one you build, once you get the hang of it. Plus, its fun. I like it because I know I washed my hands first and it works.