For all those having issues with higher vg juices

[Karim.S]

Based on my experience with high vg juices (typically 70%+) on several tanks, rta's and drippers with various wicking methods and builds, there always seems to be a "break in" time needed for a smooth vape when first firing the tank (fresh or used coil) which is usually 10-15 drags until that dry burning sensation subsides and the flavour kicks in, and the vape warms up.

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.

 

[suprtrkr]

I tend to use 40/60. But then, I also wick rayon and I don't have any wicking issues either.

 

[Karim.S]

I tend to use 40/60. But then, I also wick rayon and I don't have any wicking issues either.

40 vg? And what do you mean by rayon?

 

[suprtrkr]

40 vg? And what do you mean by rayon?

40PG/60VG, and rayon is cellucotton, a chemically identical product to cotton that is man made rather than grown in a field.

 

[herb]

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.

I agree 100% , i avoid all e juice and vendors that only offer high VG options , 50/50 rocks .

 

[Vaping_Racoon]

My Subtank Mini rocks 80/20 and it's flavorful from the first drag. (RBA)

Only problem I have is I get dry hits because my liquid freezes up fast
up here in Canada.

 

[Two_Bears]

Based on my experience with high vg juices (typically 70%+) on several tanks, rta's and drippers with various wicking methods and builds, there always seems to be a "break in" time needed for a smooth vape when first firing the tank (fresh or used coil) which is usually 10-15 drags until that dry burning sensation subsides and the flavour kicks in, and the vape warms up.

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.

The problem with high VG juices is the wicking is more critical. I vape 70/30 and 80/20 high VG juices in my Silverplay Nano, and my Kayfun Monster Mini all the time.

I use Rayon wick and have the tails go to the bottom of the juice wells. The first wick I made of Rayon burned because I didn't thin the tails enough.

The second i thinned the tails to about 40% as thick as the Rayon crammed in the coil, and both of them now wick like a freight train.

Don't put a few drops on Rayon and think its good. It needs to be completely saturated, and Rayon holds more juice than cotton.

 

[Cacique]

I also use rayon to wick and DIY my ejuice. I only make max VG, with my main flavors being 70vg, 87vg and 97vg. After a fresh re-wick I wet my wicks, fill the juice well and give it a moment, fire it and if it looks good I put the cap on and off I go. After the 3rd hit, the flavor goes from good to great. If it's harsh or doesn't taste great by the 10th hit then I wicked it wrong.

 

[mauricem00]

Based on my experience with high vg juices (typically 70%+) on several tanks, rta's and drippers with various wicking methods and builds, there always seems to be a "break in" time needed for a smooth vape when first firing the tank (fresh or used coil) which is usually 10-15 drags until that dry burning sensation subsides and the flavour kicks in, and the vape warms up.

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.

I use 50/50 on low power tanks (10 watts or less) and it takes a few hits for my wicks to break in.it may be different with high power tanks but after 45 years of smoking my lungs can't handle anything over 20 watts and even that is unpleasant

 

[Karim.S]

I use 50/50 on low power tanks (10 watts or less) and it takes a few hits for my wicks to break in.it may be different with high power tanks but after 45 years of smoking my lungs can't handle anything over 20 watts and even that is unpleasant

Are you sealing the airholes and taking 2-3 primer puffs before firing? Even after this I fire 2-3 times before actually vaping and it seems to break in instantly.

 

[Karim.S]

My Subtank Mini rocks 80/20 and it's flavorful from the first drag. (RBA)

Only problem I have is I get dry hits because my liquid freezes up fast
up here in Canada.

50/50 i think will defo reduce the dry hits in your case as the viscosity is much more wick friendly. I even tested the absorption time on a napkin and it was 3 times faster than high vg juices.

 

[Karim.S]

I also use rayon to wick and DIY my ejuice. I only make max VG, with my main flavors being 70vg, 87vg and 97vg. After a fresh re-wick I wet my wicks, fill the juice well and give it a moment, fire it and if it looks good I put the cap on and off I go. After the 3rd hit, the flavor goes from good to great. If it's harsh or doesn't taste great by the 10th hit then I wicked it wrong.

I recall somebody saying that when the wick (in his case cotton) is heated up it expands and allows for more efficient absorbtion. I noticed the flavour difference and the improved absorbtion after firing a few times then rejuicing.

How many times do you fire before actually vaping?

 

[mauricem00]

Are you sealing the airholes and taking 2-3 primer puffs before firing? Even after this I fire 2-3 times before actually vaping and it seems to break in instantly.

yes I prime my wicks and take primer puffs. im not getting a burnt taste. more like a wet rag or wet grass taste for a few hits before it breaks in.I do not have this problem with the silica wicks I use to rebuild my protanks (2 2mm wicks 6 turns awg 30 kenthal )

 

[Vaping_Racoon]

50/50 i think will defo reduce the dry hits in your case as the viscosity is much more wick friendly. I even tested the absorption time on a napkin and it was 3 times faster than high vg juices.

Of course it does but even 50/50 juice freezes up at some point with the type of cold
weather we get here.

 

[exo72069]

I regularly vape 80/15/5 (VG/H2O/alcohol base flavoring). I find that if you go below 80% VG, the juice becomes too thin and causes flooding and leaking. 80/20 and 85/15 unflavored also work well. (That is with 24mg Nicotine)

 

[Completely Average]

I vape nothing but max VG juices. I've never had to go through a "break in" period to avoid dry hits. As long as the tank and coils are made for high VG juice (REALLY large juice channels/holes) then all if needs is to be properly primed.

If you're getting expansion or "improved wicking" after firing it's because you didn't properly prime the coil and left a dry spot in the middle. The cotton or rayon fibers do not expand, the overall mass expands as more liquid is drawn in between the fibers. If you've fully saturated the wick all the way through the coil then there will be no expansion when you fire it.

Leaving dry spots in the middle of the coil is common if you're using long, compressed coils. If you're using spaced coils it almost never happens since liquid is able to get directly to the wick in the middle of the coil.

 

[thetrucker]

original-quote---
Based on my experience with high vg juices (typically 70%+) on several tanks, rta's and drippers with various wicking methods and builds, there always seems to be a "break in" time needed for a smooth vape when first firing the tank (fresh or used coil) which is usually 10-15 drags until that dry burning sensation subsides and the flavour kicks in, and the vape warms up.

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.---(end of quote)



-----Very well said--------if your juice gets too thick it will not flow........aka--too much VG...50/50 is a good choice......for trouble free

vaping.......just sayin......

 

[Karim.S]

yes I prime my wicks and take primer puffs. im not getting a burnt taste. more like a wet rag or wet grass taste for a few hits before it breaks in.I do not have this problem with the silica wicks I use to rebuild my protanks (2 2mm wicks 6 turns awg 30 kenthal )

Try firing 3 times (without vaping) for 3 secs each, that should remove that weird breaking in taste.

Do let me know how it goes

 

[Karim.S]

I vape nothing but max VG juices. I've never had to go through a "break in" period to avoid dry hits. As long as the tank and coils are made for high VG juice (REALLY large juice channels/holes) then all if needs is to be properly primed.

If you're getting expansion or "improved wicking" after firing it's because you didn't properly prime the coil and left a dry spot in the middle. The cotton or rayon fibers do not expand, the overall mass expands as more liquid is drawn in between the fibers. If you've fully saturated the wick all the way through the coil then there will be no expansion when you fire it.

Leaving dry spots in the middle of the coil is common if you're using long, compressed coils. If you're using spaced coils it almost never happens since liquid is able to get directly to the wick in the middle of the coil.

Are you saying that with high vg you always get a nice warm vape from the first drag??

 

[Karim.S]

original-quote---
Based on my experience with high vg juices (typically 70%+) on several tanks, rta's and drippers with various wicking methods and builds, there always seems to be a "break in" time needed for a smooth vape when first firing the tank (fresh or used coil) which is usually 10-15 drags until that dry burning sensation subsides and the flavour kicks in, and the vape warms up.

On the other hand with 50/50 juice and the same nicotine level (6mg) I noticed there is no break in time needed whatsoever, the smoothness, warmth and flavour is there almost instantly, everytime you fire.

So there you have it, 50/50 eliminates all wicking issues in my experience. Better wicking and flavour wins over dry clouds anyday IMO.---(end of quote)



-----Very well said--------if your juice gets too thick it will not flow........aka--too much VG...50/50 is a good choice......for trouble free

vaping.......just sayin......

Thanks buddy, glad you agree!