fake samgung 30Q?

[Cartel]

I bought 5 of these and they vary in weight
41.2 41.8 42.4 42.8 and 44.5
they charged really fast from 3.7 and are not lasting as long and my 4 year old 30Q batteries that I wanted to retire.
under the label I see R30Q
anyone got the down low?

 

[Cartel]

I weighed the fakes and weighed some real samsungs I removed from a drill battery pack
Are batteries supposed to vary from 46.9 down to 41.9grams?
The real samsungs are very close to eachother, maybe differ by 1 point but thats it, not 5 grams

 

[Cartel]

I emailed and was told this:

They are not fake. We get them from the exact same place as every vape shop in Canda pretty much "Pacific Smoke International" there is a lot of crappy and or old information on the web about batteries.

We sell a couple hundred a month, buy them in lots of 500 and are the first person to have this claim in several years in which the last claim they were fake was also false.

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Mooch]

41gms is pretty low.

Check if you can see “30Q” as part of the top line of printing near the top of the metal can (not the pink wrap). That can help authenticate the cells.

 

[Cartel]

yes it does say R30Q
I notice there is no "button" under the top and the way its crimped at the top looks totally different.
Also no warning in the wrap.

I guess canvape burned me.

 

[Cartel]

I have a tester

samsungs new 3000mah battery

a australian site i do most of my ordering from just put up for sale and in stock ready for shipping samsung 30Q 15A 3000mah batterys for $9.95 each, here are the specs..anyone have any experience with these? im thinking of getting four of them...

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your bench thread is mia but I will find the test end voltage and test

looks like 2.8

Bench Test Results: Samsung 30Q6 (“6” on the wrap) - 15A 3000mAh 18650

These tests below only note my personal ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This can be one of...

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I hit auto with cutoff 2.8. will report back

 

[Cartel]

Ok so I test 2 so far and 1 old 30Q that I used for the past 2 or 3 years and was used 2 or 3 years in the drill battery pack before the neighbour gave it to me.

Lets look at the used battery doomed for the trash, it has the SPOT WELDS on it on the left



after being fully charged, the old battery made 2648Mah on the DISCHARGE test not bad

 

[Cartel]

Now lets test one of the batteries I just bought from canvape



2444mah! Thats pretty weak, not even as good as a 6 year old battery thats been used daily for YEARS

 

[Cartel]

Here are 2 more batteries. I'm using 2 channels of the tester now. CH1 is battery marked 1 and CH2 is battery marked number 3
so battery "number 1" tests at 2506mah and "number 3" in CH2 tests at 2246mah.
pathetic

 

[Mooch]

Here are 2 more batteries. I'm using 2 channels of the tester now. CH1 is battery marked 1 and CH2 is battery marked number 3
so battery "number 1" tests at 2506mah and "number 3" in CH2 tests at 2246mah.
pathetic


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Okay, time to carefully unwrap and see if they are actually 30Q’s or not. Use a magnifier and check every little detail. If the top insulating ring is self adhesive in the new cells then they are fakes…period.

 

[Cartel]

ok heres the last 2
number 4 is in CH1 number 5 is in CH 2
2479mah for CH1 and 2336 for CH2
I will get pics of the weight in a bit I'm gonna see what the charge mah is like for fun.
So far the real samsung drill battery thats been going for years beats every 1 of these new "30Qs"

Okay, time to carefully unwrap and see if they are actually 30Q’s or not. Use a magnifier and check every little detail. If the top insulating ring is self adhesive in the new cells then they are fakes…period.

I think I'm gonna wait before tearing into them and see what canvape wants to do here.

 

[Cartel]

Heres the weights of the last 2

 

[Cartel]

I tested another battery I've had since 2021. It has been used heavily but still tested better than all the others I tested. I think its a Panasonic NCR18650B

high on the internal resistace compared to the others but
2883mah

 

[Cartel]

I have heard back and the seller it contacting the supplier pacific smoke

 

[Cartel]

OK well it seems Pacific smoke has fake samsungs and Canvape refunded me for them after they investigated.
So Canvape and Tom are loyal to their customers which makes me happy.
He said to watch out everywhere as this issue runs pretty deep and the supplier did not want to deal with this.
So Canvape did not burn me and worked with me to get this settled

 

[Mooch]

So Canvape did not burn me and worked with me to get this settled

Thanks for the update, that’s great to hear!

 

[Mooch]

OK well it seems Pacific smoke has fake samsungs…

If you’d like, send me one of the fakes and I’ll examine and test it and document the results. I can then contact Pacific Smoke to make sure they’re doing the right thing. They’ll need to examine all of the different brands/models of cells they carry. IMO if they are getting fake 30Q’s from their supplier then they are probably getting fakes of other cells too. Just purely my personal opinion here though.