Evolv DNA 75
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40 pages read and my head is spinning.......
First dna device i bought, used to Yihi devices so a lot to learn. Not a cloud factory just like to vape.
Now for the doubts..... I have Therion from lost vape and dloaded the Escribe software, done the interactive (outdated) course and passed with flying colours...
Now i only use Ni and Kanthal so i can set-up for the diferent atomizers i have lying around and just change the profile to what i use, easy right? Well not.... my NI settings keep jumping out of TC and burns the cotton as it changes to VW...
I also picked up a UD Simba and am using the ceramic coil that comes with it, it should be SS but on my settings i just can't get it to work, no flavour low vapor output. What should be the correct settings on the dna ???
Just a few questions to get me started the right way and since i have been "lost" from this forum for a while........
Beco
First dna device i bought, used to Yihi devices so a lot to learn. Not a cloud factory just like to vape.
Now for the doubts..... I have Therion from lost vape and dloaded the Escribe software, done the interactive (outdated) course and passed with flying colours...
Now i only use Ni and Kanthal so i can set-up for the diferent atomizers i have lying around and just change the profile to what i use, easy right? Well not.... my NI settings keep jumping out of TC and burns the cotton as it changes to VW...I also picked up a UD Simba and am using the ceramic coil that comes with it, it should be SS but on my settings i just can't get it to work, no flavour low vapor output. What should be the correct settings on the dna ???
Just a few questions to get me started the right way and since i have been "lost" from this forum for a while........
Beco
Hi Beco. I never had Ni200 kicking out of TC into VW with any of my 13 DNA200 mods. It happened once in awhile with my 8 Heatvape Invader Mini mods (DNA40 clone) though. Are you sure your profile is using Ni200 as a material?
On your Simba are you using SS316 as your material in the profile. I noticed the Simba comes with a SS coil and a Kanthal coil... Which one are you using?
From web info seen:
UD Simba comes with
From web info seen:
UD Simba comes with
- 1 x UD Simba Tank - 4.5ml (pre-installed 0.5ohm SS316L SCC)
- 1 x 0.5ohm Kanthal A1 Ceramic cotton coil (CCC)
- 1 x RBA head and spare parts
- 1 x Pyrex Glass tank
Here's the sdna 75w with a 23mm Aromamizer on it:
To me this is an excellent fit, my preferred setup.
Lavabox M DNA 75 next to it's big brother (Lavabox DNA200). I spent a lot of time setting it up yesterday (Custom screens, theme, case thermals, 7 TC profiles, 1 for Power Mode, Battery Discharge CSV, etc). So far I'm very happy with it! 
L to R Lavabox Blood Red DNA200, Lavabox Blood Red M DNA 75
Cheers,
Steve
L to R Lavabox Blood Red DNA200, Lavabox Blood Red M DNA 75
Cheers,
Steve
Yep, you're correct...... i found the problem and it is very stupid: dirt on the 510 connection on the atty side.....Since i normally don't take my attys of from my mods there was dirt on it..... Sensitive little beast this DNA stuff
Installed is the CCC and yes according to the website it's kanthal, as advertised was that it has SS in it. Changed to kanthal and......... rainbow colours
At 40W the thing heats up on the base, must be the Ceramics. Already disabled the pre-heat.
Thanks guys, i will get back in to this just need some time and a lot of pacience......
Beco
@VapingBad @jim_mdp
Thanks for the responses. I will do some checking. I'm tying to get another new authentic trained down to pop in here.
For me id rather the device just stopped working then. If it's going to crap out on hat low of an amp pull id rather it show me it's empty. Because Its functionally useless
Jim I'm sorry you're having a s herd time. That's one reason I'm not sitting over the computer. My heck surgeries were a failure and aside frombehng in narcitic pain meds it's just very very difficult to sit over a screen.
As for authentic / I believe so. I have several batteries and this behavior is the same on all bought at different times. Different brands from different places. It happens that this was a new 25r with a couple discharge cycles.
I'll test it again with one. And ill strip the wrapper off to confirm. I have some rewraps and it doesn't take long
Someone (sorry a lot to keep I
Up with ) mentioned it may be some setting in escribe. This to me seems the most likely. I need tk figure out what. The only change I made to the lower profile was disabling temp control capabilities in that profile. But even that doesn't appear to have taken. If k remove the ability for temp control in the profile insolent be able to even look like in setting temp- which it still does.
For a masses device to
Pick up and vape. This doesn't work well as configured. I can say that much. Most people wanting temp control. Will load different material profiles as many of the preloaded don't work well. Then there's the power thing. And the other discussed issues. It's a pain in the as frankly.
Someone else stated they wished at least a subset of capabilities was available
On device. Couldn't agree more. The fact I can't even change from left to right handed. Let alone other things.
I'm going tk reset in escribe to defaults. Then I'm gong to grab a full battery and vape it. When it starts to crap out I'm going to put that battery in other regulated mods and see what happens. Probably the m class mini. And evic Mini / istick pico. Maybe even into the p3 (which imdont run in 18650 due to size)
When that's finished I will put it in the efest and night core chargers to see readings. Then if needed I'll strip the wrap and confirm authenticity.
To
Me the bottom line is he dna75 is supposed to be the mass available chip from evolv that can be bought cheaper and used in s lot of mods. So it needs better default behavior conducive to vaping just like every other mod would thsts regulated until told otherwise. Starting with strange settings that are completely Unrelatable to even advanced vapers new to the chipset is a fast way to label your audience disappointed
If I'd known the way it was configured and he bs to get s basic regulated power vape going id have bought the nx75 for sure. Which even for advanced vapers not wanting to sit for hours in front of a pc but with power curves seems to be s much better choice right now at the same price point.
Forgive the typos. Stuck on the phone again. Large text small box doesn't work great for proof reading. I hope it's intelligible at least.
Just to be clear let me qualify statements I made
Battery was a Samsung 25r purchase s month ago.
I have 16 18650 in rotation. 4 are assigned to pairs for boxer so 12 for single battery mods. I recently bought four of them from a reputable vendor from whom I've Purchased previously with no issues
My guesstimate is no more than ten cycles
They've been used in multiple other mods without any strange issues.
I have other brand and older batteries some s few months some a year. which are in need of wrapping due to a small run which won't cause shirting issues but is ugly. Maybe I'll use one of them.
I will dig sround in escribe today. But one thing is even if the battery was limited to 3.42-3.4a die to extended DNA cutoff the limiting was down at 2.7.
@jim_MDP rest buddy.
Thanks for the responses. I will do some checking. I'm tying to get another new authentic trained down to pop in here.
For me id rather the device just stopped working then. If it's going to crap out on hat low of an amp pull id rather it show me it's empty. Because Its functionally useless
Jim I'm sorry you're having a s herd time. That's one reason I'm not sitting over the computer. My heck surgeries were a failure and aside frombehng in narcitic pain meds it's just very very difficult to sit over a screen.
As for authentic / I believe so. I have several batteries and this behavior is the same on all bought at different times. Different brands from different places. It happens that this was a new 25r with a couple discharge cycles.
I'll test it again with one. And ill strip the wrapper off to confirm. I have some rewraps and it doesn't take long
Someone (sorry a lot to keep I
Up with ) mentioned it may be some setting in escribe. This to me seems the most likely. I need tk figure out what. The only change I made to the lower profile was disabling temp control capabilities in that profile. But even that doesn't appear to have taken. If k remove the ability for temp control in the profile insolent be able to even look like in setting temp- which it still does.
For a masses device to
Pick up and vape. This doesn't work well as configured. I can say that much. Most people wanting temp control. Will load different material profiles as many of the preloaded don't work well. Then there's the power thing. And the other discussed issues. It's a pain in the as frankly.
Someone else stated they wished at least a subset of capabilities was available
On device. Couldn't agree more. The fact I can't even change from left to right handed. Let alone other things.
I'm going tk reset in escribe to defaults. Then I'm gong to grab a full battery and vape it. When it starts to crap out I'm going to put that battery in other regulated mods and see what happens. Probably the m class mini. And evic Mini / istick pico. Maybe even into the p3 (which imdont run in 18650 due to size)
When that's finished I will put it in the efest and night core chargers to see readings. Then if needed I'll strip the wrap and confirm authenticity.
To
Me the bottom line is he dna75 is supposed to be the mass available chip from evolv that can be bought cheaper and used in s lot of mods. So it needs better default behavior conducive to vaping just like every other mod would thsts regulated until told otherwise. Starting with strange settings that are completely Unrelatable to even advanced vapers new to the chipset is a fast way to label your audience disappointed
If I'd known the way it was configured and he bs to get s basic regulated power vape going id have bought the nx75 for sure. Which even for advanced vapers not wanting to sit for hours in front of a pc but with power curves seems to be s much better choice right now at the same price point.
Forgive the typos. Stuck on the phone again. Large text small box doesn't work great for proof reading. I hope it's intelligible at least.
Just to be clear let me qualify statements I made
Battery was a Samsung 25r purchase s month ago.
I have 16 18650 in rotation. 4 are assigned to pairs for boxer so 12 for single battery mods. I recently bought four of them from a reputable vendor from whom I've Purchased previously with no issues
My guesstimate is no more than ten cycles
They've been used in multiple other mods without any strange issues.
I have other brand and older batteries some s few months some a year. which are in need of wrapping due to a small run which won't cause shirting issues but is ugly. Maybe I'll use one of them.
I will dig sround in escribe today. But one thing is even if the battery was limited to 3.42-3.4a die to extended DNA cutoff the limiting was down at 2.7.
@jim_MDP rest buddy.
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Hooligan, read up on battery curve and cut off settings. The default SDNA sets it for is 2.7v which is the actual 0% of a battery. Evolv will cut it off at 2.9 if it is set any lower than that. You can damage a battery if it is being drawn at 2.7 (including sag). Which is why most devices 0% at 3.25-3.4.
This is where escribe becomes really nice if you need 0% to be when the device hits the point where the battery can no longer fire at the level you want to you can do it. You can set your own curve so you get a more comfortable idea of when the battery is getting low (the default curve has it falling off a cliff at the end).
While I get wanting it to be more on the go friendly. And DJlsb put a lot of effort to make the SDNA a little more on the go friendly. It's still a DNA and like the FSK board in Hohmwrecker it's enthusiast board that is meant for people to control their device in very granular levels to to perfect their Vapes. With that sadly it's not always going to be the easiest to use.
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This is where escribe becomes really nice if you need 0% to be when the device hits the point where the battery can no longer fire at the level you want to you can do it. You can set your own curve so you get a more comfortable idea of when the battery is getting low (the default curve has it falling off a cliff at the end).
While I get wanting it to be more on the go friendly. And DJlsb put a lot of effort to make the SDNA a little more on the go friendly. It's still a DNA and like the FSK board in Hohmwrecker it's enthusiast board that is meant for people to control their device in very granular levels to to perfect their Vapes. With that sadly it's not always going to be the easiest to use.
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Escribe with SP3, the Vaporshark DNA200 and SNY SDNA75, the copper plug read resistance fine, same as before updates.
However, I just received my HCigar VT75 Nano, an 18650 mod, like the SNY. In the Atty check, all I get is the "?", NO ohm resistance reading at all. I manually set it at "0.002", same as the SNY, as a GUESS.
However, I just received my HCigar VT75 Nano, an 18650 mod, like the SNY. In the Atty check, all I get is the "?", NO ohm resistance reading at all. I manually set it at "0.002", same as the SNY, as a GUESS.
My Think Vape Box 75 (DNA 75) came in a couple weeks back from fasttech. No complaints thus far. I was hoping to be able to set it up specifically to work with a Lifepo4 cell, but that option apparently doesn't exist on the 75. It may work if I go in and set the cutoff voltage lower, though of course the battery gauge won't read accurately, since it expects "full" to be 4.2v, but that's not a big deal. I've had no issues using this thing. Everything feels solid, the buttons are mildly clicky (hugely improved over the mushy ones on my Esquare DNA 40) with no rattle, and zero issues with the battery cap (I saw some issues with the Hcigar mini (iirc) due to super fine threads, but that's not at all the case with this one).
Last shot is with an Ohmega Calypso, which is 30mm diameter, to show how well it fits on this mod. The atty is raised slightly above the top of the mod only because I have a POM insulator from fasttech under it (I need it on there to take up the slack when mounted on my VTC Mini), otherwise it would sit down flush on the top.
Last shot is with an Ohmega Calypso, which is 30mm diameter, to show how well it fits on this mod. The atty is raised slightly above the top of the mod only because I have a POM insulator from fasttech under it (I need it on there to take up the slack when mounted on my VTC Mini), otherwise it would sit down flush on the top.
Redid the test, this time screwing the plug in further, very tight fit, but finally got a reading of 0.004.
Which plug did you get? One of these or something else?
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I got the one from Signature Tips.
I got the first one you listed. But I got it when it was offered by a member on the Escribe forum. He got the project going, I assume it was passed off to that site, it's the same 99% copper plug. Threads may be a little rough, but never had it not thread all the way down on my other DNA's. It's the reason I did not get any reading the first time, I didn't want to keep going once I met the extreme resistance near the bottom. Glad I won't need to do it again.
Ok. Here's the result. I finally killed a battery enough to run some quantification
Different Samsun 25r from the video different batch. Different vendor. Older but not old. Can't say for sure the number of cycles but imdont think that's necessary right this minute.
DNA 75 shows 27% remaining.
Build shows 1.19
Power set to 17.5w for testing
Profile is power mode. Temp control disabled in evolv. Material is wattage as built in
Firing starts st 13.9 and works its way down to 8.8-9w. Pretty quickly. 13.9-11.5 is very fast. 11.5-10 is quick. 10 down is steady.
That levels it at about 3.2-3.3v
Here's what happens when I put that battery in other devices and then in a charger
Istick pico
Battery icon shows 30% available. Inexact science but contrary to the opinion other mods would show the battery as flat and the dna75 is allowing me to use it in s restricted mode longer.
Firing at 17.5w atomizer registering 1.18
4.54v drain showing. Hitting a ton harder than the smy sdna75
Evic mini shows about 20% remaining
Fires s hell of s lot harder than smy mod. Amp draw shows 3.7. If I increase wattage the amp draw hats pushing through goes up as expected band it slewed to be respecting my settings.
I could test another five mods but there's no point. The battery isn't below its limit. The DNA 75 mod isn't trying to regard performance due to s battery issue. It's ......ing becuse it's programmed incorrectly. Or because there's a bug.
After my other trials the dna75 mod shows 22% still reducing the draw down now into the under 3 volt range.
The efest 6 bay charger shows the current battery level at 3.54v
So there's the info about how other mkde deal with it. I personally want to run my batteries lower than 3.6 which seeks ridiculously high firms cutoff or to trigger safety stuff. Every other mod in the house from $20 to $200 has zero issue if I pop this battery in.
I'm not charging the battery. I'll be happy to check whatever in escribe if someone can guide me as to what is went to check for battery related issues.
I think something MUST be set wrong. It's not s battery issue and I can't believe he DNA 75 chip would fail to perform the basic function of a regulated mod.
The same cell has no issue at say 50%. Cheeky some setting is off. I guess s factory restore is the next step.
Different Samsun 25r from the video different batch. Different vendor. Older but not old. Can't say for sure the number of cycles but imdont think that's necessary right this minute.
DNA 75 shows 27% remaining.
Build shows 1.19
Power set to 17.5w for testing
Profile is power mode. Temp control disabled in evolv. Material is wattage as built in
Firing starts st 13.9 and works its way down to 8.8-9w. Pretty quickly. 13.9-11.5 is very fast. 11.5-10 is quick. 10 down is steady.
That levels it at about 3.2-3.3v
Here's what happens when I put that battery in other devices and then in a charger
Istick pico
Battery icon shows 30% available. Inexact science but contrary to the opinion other mods would show the battery as flat and the dna75 is allowing me to use it in s restricted mode longer.
Firing at 17.5w atomizer registering 1.18
4.54v drain showing. Hitting a ton harder than the smy sdna75
Evic mini shows about 20% remaining
Fires s hell of s lot harder than smy mod. Amp draw shows 3.7. If I increase wattage the amp draw hats pushing through goes up as expected band it slewed to be respecting my settings.
I could test another five mods but there's no point. The battery isn't below its limit. The DNA 75 mod isn't trying to regard performance due to s battery issue. It's ......ing becuse it's programmed incorrectly. Or because there's a bug.
After my other trials the dna75 mod shows 22% still reducing the draw down now into the under 3 volt range.
The efest 6 bay charger shows the current battery level at 3.54v
So there's the info about how other mkde deal with it. I personally want to run my batteries lower than 3.6 which seeks ridiculously high firms cutoff or to trigger safety stuff. Every other mod in the house from $20 to $200 has zero issue if I pop this battery in.
I'm not charging the battery. I'll be happy to check whatever in escribe if someone can guide me as to what is went to check for battery related issues.
I think something MUST be set wrong. It's not s battery issue and I can't believe he DNA 75 chip would fail to perform the basic function of a regulated mod.
The same cell has no issue at say 50%. Cheeky some setting is off. I guess s factory restore is the next step.
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How about posting something like this using the battery that you "saved"?
I doubt if it's the board it's self that is causing the problem, perhaps there is a poor solder joint on the battery sled or where the sled's wires are soldered onto the board.
BTW, this is firing at 50 watts for 1 second then 40.
I doubt if it's the board it's self that is causing the problem, perhaps there is a poor solder joint on the battery sled or where the sled's wires are soldered onto the board.
BTW, this is firing at 50 watts for 1 second then 40.
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As Dwcrag1 has indicated, Escribe DNA Mods give you the information you can use to help diagnose exactly what is causing your issue. Screenshots of the mod in action from Device Monitor can give others the information they need to help you. You can take screenshots of your settings pages to ask others to help you figure this out. All the other information you gave can't help as much as Escribe itself can. Evolv has a wonderful forum filled with very knowledgeable people as well who can help.
Screenshots of Escribe can be taken with the windows Snipping Took located in the windows accessories folder of the start menu on your computer. Take a snip, click Edit>Copy then simply paste in your post.
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@h00ligan , can you post a screenshot of Device Monitor (while firing) so we can see what your device is doing. Here is an example of a DNA75 so you can see what Device Monitor items are being graphed and which may be helpful to show (this one shows Pack, Power, Power Set, Current, and Voltage while firing). I suspect severe sag. :
i find i am getting more puffs, +10%, on my sdna 75 than i did with my vtc mini using the same hg2 batteries. i do about the same build with my tanks. usually 9 wraps of 26g ti wire @ 3mm. so i'm happy with it. for me that's all day vaping and into the next morning in most cases. i'm using default battery settings on the sdna.
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