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I agree with you about Tasty Vapor's A.C...it's amazing. Keep in mind that, if you liked the juice, but thought it could use a bit more menthol, Geoff does custom mixes. Just email him and tell him what you're after.
I had actually talked to Geoff and told him I wanted my menthol a little stronger than normal.
To the OP, If you just put a note on the order page to make the menthol a bit stronger he will do it. I just ordered straight menthol, without the tobacco, so I am not really sure exactly what that one vapes like.
if u thought u might like the blueberyy try TVs blueberry cheesecake...amazing....and caramel popcorn....these to me along with AC make for a great date with my pv....i see these flavors daily and they r cool with being in an open relationship....AC needs a separate atty however...the bbc and car. popcorn kinda complement each other....
I'm confused here..who's expensive?
I was referring to carts...saying they were INexpensive...
My husband smoked strong Menthol for over 40 years. He is now rotating between AC and a DIY Watermelon. I have tried 4 different Menthol form various vendors( he liked Vermont Vapor the best) but it is not in his rotation right now. Maybe you could try some of the DIY stuff, and be able to make it as strong of flavor as you like?
Carts seem kind of iffy in general. Have you tried direct dripping without the cart?
heres 3 must try's..
1-NHaler NuPort
2-Tasty Vapor Version Butter RUm
3-Stricktly E-Juice marlboro Menthol
If you dont like those, you prob wont find a good Menthol I went from Menthol cigs as well and found my first fav to be Nhaler Nuport and TV butter rum was my first fav non-tob/menthol flavored juice
If you try these, let me know what u think ....I like to see if others agree so I can see if its worth continuing to reccomend.....but I **think** youll be impressed!
For all other NON tob flavors, Ms Ts has awesome flavor and TH in Med strength Her bakery flavors are actually quite amazing. Im partial to her blueberry muffin For TV, my top flavors are most def everything he put in his "Geoffs mix" AC, TV butter rum and banana nut bread (SooOoOOOOOo goOoooOd)
1-NHaler NuPort
2-Tasty Vapor Version Butter RUm
3-Stricktly E-Juice marlboro Menthol
If you dont like those, you prob wont find a good Menthol
I went from Menthol cigs as well and found my first fav to be Nhaler Nuport and TV butter rum was my first fav non-tob/menthol flavored juice If you try these, let me know what u think ....I like to see if others agree so I can see if its worth continuing to reccomend.....but I **think** youll be impressed!
For all other NON tob flavors, Ms Ts has awesome flavor and TH in Med strength
Her bakery flavors are actually quite amazing. Im partial to her blueberry muffin For TV, my top flavors are most def everything he put in his "Geoffs mix" AC, TV butter rum and banana nut bread (SooOoOOOOOo goOoooOd)
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I have a friend that thinks V4L Red Cow is the best tobacco flavor she has tried. I don't have the heart to tell her.
I am not a menthol lover but I understand that Vapor4Life's "Smilin" menthol is very strong and it's a favorite of many people. Now they have an even stronger version with more vapor called "Wow" and I think they have a menthol flavor.
One new flavor from V4L that I absolutely LOVE is the Peppermint Patty. That may not be the type of mint you're looking for, but it is fabulous in case you want to give it a try.
If you like really strong flavors, I would highly recommend the extra-flavor juices from MyFreedomSmokes. Again, I don't know about menthol flavors specifically - but they have wonderful juices in the extra-flavor strength.
One new flavor from V4L that I absolutely LOVE is the Peppermint Patty. That may not be the type of mint you're looking for, but it is fabulous in case you want to give it a try.
If you like really strong flavors, I would highly recommend the extra-flavor juices from MyFreedomSmokes. Again, I don't know about menthol flavors specifically - but they have wonderful juices in the extra-flavor strength.
The "smilin menthol" IS good, however its a VERY strong menthol but lacks any tobacco flavor....I could be wrong, but Im thinkin the OP is looking for a tob/menthol mix with strong menthol flavor. I havent tried V4L's cowboy-menthol yet - but I DO like alot of thier flavors.....Hmm, now you got me started.....MUST...NOT...ORDER....ANYTHING.....TONITE (but tom I may have to order some v4l cowboy-menthol to try )
On the other hand, I find that a GOOD stand-alone menthol and a good stand alone tob makes for a VERY tasty self-mixed flavor to suit my tastes.
(but tom I may have to order some v4l cowboy-menthol to try )On the other hand, I find that a GOOD stand-alone menthol and a good stand alone tob makes for a VERY tasty self-mixed flavor to suit my tastes.
Thanks all. Seems I have a pretty long list of juice to try, I guess I'll give up on pre-filled carts
I'll let you all know how it goes the next time I order...I need to choke what I got down for now. Still less than 1/2 pack a day, so, I'm not doing too bad
I'll let you all know how it goes the next time I order...I need to choke what I got down for now. Still less than 1/2 pack a day, so, I'm not doing too bad
I'm more of a vapor fiend than a throat hit fanatic...
I have been extremely lucky in terms of not wasting money on juice.
I've learned that high vaping voltage, more nicotine and more PG increase TH...
Find someone here that you believe that you have a lot in common with in terms of vaping needs... buy what they buy.
develop a good relationship with a vendor like Geoff at TV and request juice that will kick your throat.
sell your unwanted supplies in the classifieds... and invest in a higher volt mod if you don't have one... a 5v or 6v...
it shouldn't be that difficult to find what you are looking for... lots of menthol, throat hit fans out there...
side note: torque from halo kicks my throat too much... tried that one?
***and*** when I moved from a Kr808 to an eGo, flavor and throat hit and vapor improved SIGNIFICANTLY...
I ordered a 5v saber touch a few days ago... can't wait to try that ;-)
I have been extremely lucky in terms of not wasting money on juice.
I've learned that high vaping voltage, more nicotine and more PG increase TH...
Find someone here that you believe that you have a lot in common with in terms of vaping needs... buy what they buy.
develop a good relationship with a vendor like Geoff at TV and request juice that will kick your throat.
sell your unwanted supplies in the classifieds... and invest in a higher volt mod if you don't have one... a 5v or 6v...
it shouldn't be that difficult to find what you are looking for... lots of menthol, throat hit fans out there...
side note: torque from halo kicks my throat too much... tried that one?
***and*** when I moved from a Kr808 to an eGo, flavor and throat hit and vapor improved SIGNIFICANTLY...
I ordered a 5v saber touch a few days ago... can't wait to try that ;-)
I feel the same way about Atomic Cinacide. I tried their Cafe Mocha and found it bitter with no throat hit at all. I emailed him about it to see if there was anything I could do to spice it up and tone down the toasty flavor and he said some sweetener and some caramel. I hear a lot of good things about his Butter Rum so I will be ordering that along with the sweetener and caramel.
As for carts, the best thing I've found so far is the Zero Filler Mod. You can make these yourself or you can buy them from Scotty's website. I did both and I prefer the ones Scotty makes. They are awesome! It's like direct dripping without having to drip. Best mod ever and I've tried a lot of things! You can fill a cart with at the very least 10 drops (0.5 ml) but probably more so you won't be refilling 5000 times a day.
I've tried a billion things to quit smoking. With the ZFM + AC I'm down to 2-3 cigarettes a day.
As for carts, the best thing I've found so far is the Zero Filler Mod. You can make these yourself or you can buy them from Scotty's website. I did both and I prefer the ones Scotty makes. They are awesome! It's like direct dripping without having to drip. Best mod ever and I've tried a lot of things! You can fill a cart with at the very least 10 drops (0.5 ml) but probably more so you won't be refilling 5000 times a day.
I've tried a billion things to quit smoking. With the ZFM + AC I'm down to 2-3 cigarettes a day.
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The only juice that I have that even compares to TV's AC is sassafras from Bomb Drops. Those are my two main vapes. 
I'll throw another relative newbie (and Newport smoker too) opinion into the foray. Not so much in the way of a vendor but towards the overall discussion. This turned out way longer than I intended but I think worthwhile if even one person gets value from it.
First, I would like to partially disagree with the recommendation to jump into HV and/or higher mgs (especially for a relative beginner). There are many warnings about Hv not being for beginners and I believe these are very well founded warnings. Please keep in mind that my HV experience is limited to a Puresmoker 5V PT but I have been researching HV extensively.
From my experiences, the HV does increase TH and vapor volume - no doubt. But, it also vapes much hotter which also dramatically increases (my experience) the absorption rate of e-nic. While I would have to chain vape on a 3.7 (Tornado/ego) thru half a cart at 18-24 mg to feel nic buzz, on HV I can get that feeling after 6 or 7 vape draws of 18 mg (and I'm 6'4" 230 lbs who works out 4-5x/wk). Granted, some may like the nic-buzz. Personally, I am working to find a comfortable balance of vaping enjoyment with little to none (at least during prime time functionality). Jumping into unregulated HV mods that can be vaping at 6 volts or higher can have other risks too. I am NOT saying "don't" just do more research and proceed with caution. There IS such a thing as nic OD (yea, over-dose). I doubt it would be rush to hospital but could include heart palpitations, nervousness, difficulty concentrating...
Additionally, I am learning (both from experience and from posts and correspondence with forum "Experts" - ATE) there are other factors which are not often discussed. VG burns at a lower temp so VG juices can get more of a flavor degradation at higher voltage. I find my "flavors" taste much better at lower volts while tobacco and menthols stand up to the HV much better. My PG juices also stand up better to HV
Another point about voltage that I am just beginning to learn is that the overall vaping experience can be more a function of Watts than Volts. While I am no electrician, I will copy in some info from one of the ATEs:
As I had been intensely researching for a regulated 5V mod, and seen pretty much everything "out there", I found this information illuminating. I have now chosen to go with the Bart box mod as my next device for all of the reasons posted. I very much enjoy vaping on my 5V PT but it IS STRONG and kills some of my juices. I find I only want to drip on the HV (and I am not a drip fan) to slow me down. The more I get into vaping, I am finding there are different devices and different juices and different combinations of devices and juices for different times of the day and different occasions/circumstances.
As an almost former Newport smoker (30 years) - now at 1 to 2 analogs a day and not really enjoying the taste anymore - YEA!!! I have been trying every menthol I can get my hands on. I have found a bunch that I like but no all day vapes yet. Still waiting to try Halo - seen good and not so good reviews. So far, the closest to Newports has been YNDK (Dekang) neuport but I've heard good things about NHaler NUport and have some on order. TW's menthol (Red Label) is nice. BUT, so far my nicest vape is Tasty Vapor's Tobacco menthol. Now TV's juices are mixed FRESH and apparently need time to "steep" The Spearmint flavors I got from Geoff are STRONG out of the box so they are now steeping. THe T/M is a doubler (at 40%VG) so I am experimenting with different mixtures and even adding bits of other menthols to play with it (have some crystals in the mail too).
Overall, I would strongly suggest proceeding into HV with true caution, buy small (5ml) bottles of juice from a variety of vendors to try lots of juices and then trade on the swap forums and/or social forums until you find YOUR flavors. Also keep in mind what is posted ALL OVER THESE FORUMS, as you drop the analogs, your taste buds change and flavors will too. I have traded a bunch of flavors away that tasted either not good, no taste or very bland and the responses on some were like "WOW that is GREAT - gotta order some bottles of that!!!" - Left me stumped! So I decided to stop trading as some of my flavors are already starting to taste better as I reduce analogs and can only wonder what the coming weeks (with no analogs) will be like for flavors on my changing tastebuds. I was phoning with the owner of Perfumers Apprentice yesterday and she told me that many new vapors are mixing 20% flavor into their juices and as they get off analogs they often drop their way down to 5% flavoring with some even finding that too strong for flavor.
I have also stopped buying from any juice vendor that does not post their juice base (PG, VG, mix and/or ratios). My conclusion is that any vendor just posting flavors and mg(s) is either importing or just doesn't want to say what is in their juice (something to hide?).
Be patient, take your time and try not to rush to find the perfect vape. I know it is hard cause we all want the perfect mix to jump off the analogs and who doesn't want more new devices(?!). But I am also finding that I need to patiently listen (and monitor) my body for reactions to e-nic. Some are subtle and most are very different from analog nic and everything changes as I go along. Remember, with analogs, once you have a brand - all remains completely consistent and this is just not so with vaping. Juices change, your taste buds change, different attys with each changing over its life span, batteries and battery levels change, how your body responds can change based on your diet, blood sugar levels, body hydration, and many other variables (and combinations of variables) which do not remain consistent in vaping.
I know this is a long post - sorry - but if a single person gets anything of value it will have been worth the time to write it and read it.
Happy vaping!
First, I would like to partially disagree with the recommendation to jump into HV and/or higher mgs (especially for a relative beginner). There are many warnings about Hv not being for beginners and I believe these are very well founded warnings. Please keep in mind that my HV experience is limited to a Puresmoker 5V PT but I have been researching HV extensively.
From my experiences, the HV does increase TH and vapor volume - no doubt. But, it also vapes much hotter which also dramatically increases (my experience) the absorption rate of e-nic. While I would have to chain vape on a 3.7 (Tornado/ego) thru half a cart at 18-24 mg to feel nic buzz, on HV I can get that feeling after 6 or 7 vape draws of 18 mg (and I'm 6'4" 230 lbs who works out 4-5x/wk). Granted, some may like the nic-buzz. Personally, I am working to find a comfortable balance of vaping enjoyment with little to none (at least during prime time functionality). Jumping into unregulated HV mods that can be vaping at 6 volts or higher can have other risks too. I am NOT saying "don't" just do more research and proceed with caution. There IS such a thing as nic OD (yea, over-dose). I doubt it would be rush to hospital but could include heart palpitations, nervousness, difficulty concentrating...
Additionally, I am learning (both from experience and from posts and correspondence with forum "Experts" - ATE) there are other factors which are not often discussed. VG burns at a lower temp so VG juices can get more of a flavor degradation at higher voltage. I find my "flavors" taste much better at lower volts while tobacco and menthols stand up to the HV much better. My PG juices also stand up better to HV
Another point about voltage that I am just beginning to learn is that the overall vaping experience can be more a function of Watts than Volts. While I am no electrician, I will copy in some info from one of the ATEs:
As I had been intensely researching for a regulated 5V mod, and seen pretty much everything "out there", I found this information illuminating. I have now chosen to go with the Bart box mod as my next device for all of the reasons posted. I very much enjoy vaping on my 5V PT but it IS STRONG and kills some of my juices. I find I only want to drip on the HV (and I am not a drip fan) to slow me down. The more I get into vaping, I am finding there are different devices and different juices and different combinations of devices and juices for different times of the day and different occasions/circumstances.
As an almost former Newport smoker (30 years) - now at 1 to 2 analogs a day and not really enjoying the taste anymore - YEA!!! I have been trying every menthol I can get my hands on. I have found a bunch that I like but no all day vapes yet. Still waiting to try Halo - seen good and not so good reviews. So far, the closest to Newports has been YNDK (Dekang) neuport but I've heard good things about NHaler NUport and have some on order. TW's menthol (Red Label) is nice. BUT, so far my nicest vape is Tasty Vapor's Tobacco menthol. Now TV's juices are mixed FRESH and apparently need time to "steep" The Spearmint flavors I got from Geoff are STRONG out of the box so they are now steeping. THe T/M is a doubler (at 40%VG) so I am experimenting with different mixtures and even adding bits of other menthols to play with it (have some crystals in the mail too).
Overall, I would strongly suggest proceeding into HV with true caution, buy small (5ml) bottles of juice from a variety of vendors to try lots of juices and then trade on the swap forums and/or social forums until you find YOUR flavors. Also keep in mind what is posted ALL OVER THESE FORUMS, as you drop the analogs, your taste buds change and flavors will too. I have traded a bunch of flavors away that tasted either not good, no taste or very bland and the responses on some were like "WOW that is GREAT - gotta order some bottles of that!!!" - Left me stumped! So I decided to stop trading as some of my flavors are already starting to taste better as I reduce analogs and can only wonder what the coming weeks (with no analogs) will be like for flavors on my changing tastebuds. I was phoning with the owner of Perfumers Apprentice yesterday and she told me that many new vapors are mixing 20% flavor into their juices and as they get off analogs they often drop their way down to 5% flavoring with some even finding that too strong for flavor.
I have also stopped buying from any juice vendor that does not post their juice base (PG, VG, mix and/or ratios). My conclusion is that any vendor just posting flavors and mg(s) is either importing or just doesn't want to say what is in their juice (something to hide?).
Be patient, take your time and try not to rush to find the perfect vape. I know it is hard cause we all want the perfect mix to jump off the analogs and who doesn't want more new devices(?!). But I am also finding that I need to patiently listen (and monitor) my body for reactions to e-nic. Some are subtle and most are very different from analog nic and everything changes as I go along. Remember, with analogs, once you have a brand - all remains completely consistent and this is just not so with vaping. Juices change, your taste buds change, different attys with each changing over its life span, batteries and battery levels change, how your body responds can change based on your diet, blood sugar levels, body hydration, and many other variables (and combinations of variables) which do not remain consistent in vaping.
I know this is a long post - sorry - but if a single person gets anything of value it will have been worth the time to write it and read it.
Happy vaping!
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