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I usually order my DIY E juice Flavoring from WizardLabs.com, I sometimes feel like the product I am receiving is diluted little to much. I always use TFA (Unless they are Out Of Stock) So, I started browsing online and have not found a thread yet on this question. If I can order directly from TheFlavorApprentice.com, whats the difference in their product and WizardLabs. Its the same product right? Does Wizard Labs dilute the product as they rebottle them? My parents have also noticed that when they order the same TFA Flavor from Heartland Vapers, its way more concentrated than Wizard Labs. Any thoughts on this!?
 

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I usually order my DIY E juice Flavoring from WizardLabs.com, I sometimes feel like the product I am receiving is diluted little to much. I always use TFA (Unless they are Out Of Stock) So, I started browsing online and have not found a thread yet on this question. If I can order directly from TheFlavorApprentice.com, whats the difference in their product and WizardLabs. Its the same product right? Does Wizard Labs dilute the product as they rebottle them? My parents have also noticed that when they order the same TFA Flavor from Heartland Vapers, its way more concentrated than Wizard Labs. Any thoughts on this!?

Why would you not just buy from DIY E-Liquid Concentrated Flavoring
or Flavorings for DIY E-Liquid and E-Juice by Brand | ecigExpress
 
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I guess thats where I miss questioned my post. Sorry for the miscommunication. My question is, why would you order through a company like wizard labs when you can just order directly from TFA themselves. You would be getting a more concentrated blend directly from TFA. (This is where I'm getting confused with DIY).

I think you may want to ask the manufacture themselves Perfumers Apprentice - Contact Us
 
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I think you may want to ask the manufacture themselves Perfumers Apprentice - Contact Us
I actually did contact them and all they said was they developed their flavors for food and have no experience with the E Liquid Industry. But she said a handful of people do order from them for that reason. lol Im just trying to figure it out for the sake of knowledge. Im currently ordering flavors from ecigexpress. Thank you for the recommendation.
 
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I actually did contact them and all they said was they developed their flavors for food and have no experience with the E Liquid Industry. But she said a handful of people do order from them for that reason. lol Im just trying to figure it out for the sake of knowledge. Im currently ordering flavors from ecigexpress. Thank you for the recommendation.

Just more "food" for thought E-Cig Flavors - FlavourArt | EcigExpress
 

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I personally get mine from wizard labs for the fact that I can order smaller sample bottles for cheaper price. Now that you mention it, I would hate for it to be diluted because if I got a stronger concentrate, I would be making 30 ml bottles with only a couple drops per flavor as my highest % on any one flavor is 3% or 0.9ml if it indeed was diluted. Which I hope not. I think it mainly is just the price but I can not tell you for sure as I have never tried TFA directly.
 

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I actually did contact them and all they said was they developed their flavors for food and have no experience with the E Liquid Industry. But she said a handful of people do order from them for that reason. lol Im just trying to figure it out for the sake of knowledge. Im currently ordering flavors from ecigexpress. Thank you for the recommendation.

Actually, I found her honnest response pertinent. It may be more accurate to compare evenly the flavor concentrates sources in culinary preparations rather than in vaping settings. If the wizard lab concentrates, from which I'm ordering, are diluted version of TFA, the difference should come up obvious in your plate.
 

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TFA flavors are pretty weak to begin with. I use them between 10% & 20%. There are lots of better/stronger flavorings out there. Sparky suggested Flavour Art. They are good. So is Inawera. Vapers Tek has a line of "Super Concentrates" that are pretty good too. Check out Bull City Vapors and Ecig Express. They carry all theses brands. Inawera and the SC flavors can be WAY too strong, even at just 5%.
 
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I usually order my DIY E Juice Flavoring from WizardLabs.com, I sometimes feel like the product I am receiving is diluted little to much. I always use TFA (Unless they are Out Of Stock) So, I started browsing online and have not found a thread yet on this question. If I can order directly from TheFlavorApprentice.com, whats the difference in their product and WizardLabs. Its the same product right? Does Wizard Labs dilute the product as they rebottle them? My parents have also noticed that when they order the same TFA Flavor from Heartland Vapers, its way more concentrated than Wizard Labs. Any thoughts on this!?


Yes, you can order directly from them, Perfumer's Apprentice
that's where I buy from, in 2 oz, 4oz and 16 oz sizes
 

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I personally get mine from wizard labs for the fact that I can order smaller sample bottles for cheaper price. Now that you mention it, I would hate for it to be diluted because if I got a stronger concentrate, I would be making 30 ml bottles with only a couple drops per flavor as my highest % on any one flavor is 3% or 0.9ml if it indeed was diluted. Which I hope not. I think it mainly is just the price but I can not tell you for sure as I have never tried TFA directly.
I used to order from Wizard labs alot,for the same reason.The cheaper price on the small bottles,then if i liked that flavor,i order it in larger bottles direct from Tfa,and i can tell you,Wizard does not dilute them,i got the exact same flavor from them as i did direct from Tfa.I still buy the same way,but now i use Bull city since they carry more brands.
 

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I used to order from Wizard labs alot,for the same reason.The cheaper price on the small bottles,then if i liked that flavor,i order it in larger bottles direct from Tfa,and i can tell you,Wizard does not dilute them,i got the exact same flavor from them as i did direct from Tfa.I still buy the same way,but now i use Bull city since they carry more brands.
That is really good to know. I wouldn't think that they would being a well know vendor. Thanks for your input b.m. Bull city good pricewise? I know there are going to be a few flavors that I Know for a fact that I will use a lot of so I would be going larger bottles for next orders.
 

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That is really good to know. I wouldn't think that they would being a well know vendor. Thanks for your input b.m. Bull city good pricewise? I know there are going to be a few flavors that I Know for a fact that I will use a lot of so I would be going larger bottles for next orders.
Yeah,on Tfa,Bull city is $1.79 for a 10ml bottle,they have good prices on other brands too.When you go to Tfa's site,it wont show the bigger sized bottles at first.You have to create an account,then hit the button that says request a bulk account.It goes through pretty quick,then you can get to the large bottles 4oz. and up,and that is where the major savings are,most of the 4oz. bottles are between $6-$9.
 
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