Dinner Lady - Lemon Tart not tasting right :’(

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hi Guys!! Ok I got a problemo! I’ve been vaping this Dinner Lady - Lemon Tart juice before on mtn CoolFire and it’s been tasting perfect but I forgot the settings it was on lol Now I’m trying to vape it on my smok Alien with a baby beast 0.15ohm, 60W and it just doesn’t taste right. I tried bumping the watts to 70 then 80, then back down to 50, and now kinda stuck to 60w. Any ideas guys?
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Sorry i should mention the taste: not enough flavour overall. Also the clouds are a bit greyish (could be normal). Does anyone know the perfect setting a part from changing a coil? If changing the coil is the only option, then I’ll do that. I have the 0.15ohm baby T8 in atm. And I heard good things from it just assuming it was my settings
 
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The amount of wattage applied to a flavor can change it significantly. You may be kind of stuck in a bad place with your (very) sub0hm coil, and balancing the amount of wattage you need to get decent vapor production versus a more subtle or less flavored juice in the tank.

If you like it in your MTL setup why not save it for that? Sub0hmers will (sometimes, especially if high wattage) ask for extra flavor in their juices, due to the fact that the type of sub0hming you are at can result in some flavor loss (why, I have no idea other than the amount of vapor being produced can be overwhelming, or merely running at higher wattages may require more flavorful juice.

You can continue to experiment, certainly, but I might consider experimenting with other (and perhaps more strongly flavored) juices. If I were vaping an e-liquid MTL, I'd probably also want to get a lower nicotine setup as well (and possibly on the higher VG side) since if your vapor production rises, you will be getting far more nicotine per puff than on a small, MTL device.

Best of luck as you experiment! :)

Anna
 
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The amount of wattage applied to a flavor can change it significantly. You may be kind of stuck in a bad place with your (very) sub0hm coil, and balancing the amount of wattage you need to get decent vapor production versus a more subtle or less flavored juice in the tank.

If you like it in your MTL setup why not save it for that? Sub0hmers will (sometimes, especially if high wattage) ask for extra flavor in their juices, due to the fact that the type of sub0hming you are at can result in some flavor loss (why, I have no idea other than the amount of vapor being produced can be overwhelming, or merely running at higher wattages may require more flavorful juice.

You can continue to experiment, certainly, but I might consider experimenting with other (and perhaps more strongly flavored) juices. If I were vaping an e-liquid MTL, I'd probably also want to get a lower nicotine setup as well (and possibly on the higher VG side) since if your vapor production rises, you will be getting far more nicotine per puff than on a small, MTL device.

Best of luck as you experiment! :)

Anna
Thank you that did help, I didn’t understand what ‘subohmer’ means but I think I got the gist. I do appreciate it. I think the dinner lady juice I have has 3mg nicotine (haven’t got it with me but if I remember correctly). I thought that would have an affect also.
 
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I saw you mentioned a 0.15 coil.

I'm using a 0.15 set up right now.. at 118W.

Not familiar with that coil or tank but it sounds like your wattages may be way too low for that coil.

I mean even at 60W, you're only at 3.0V.
I saw you mentioned a 0.15 coil.

I'm using a 0.15 set up right now.. at 118W.

Not familiar with that coil or tank but it sounds like your wattages may be way too low for that coil.

I mean even at 60W, you're only at 3.0V.
ohhh okay I’m going to try it at the same wattage and I’ll post back with an update! Thank you!
 
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ohhh okay I’m going to try it at the same wattage and I’ll post back with an update! Thank you!

Just make sure you prime that sucker well.

I'm using tri-core fused claptons, not a pre made coil. 4.2V for me is usually ideal, but i'd be astonished if there wasn't some weird stuff going on with Smok coils.
 

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I saw you mentioned a 0.15 coil.

I'm using a 0.15 set up right now.. at 118W.

Not familiar with that coil or tank but it sounds like your wattages may be way too low for that coil.

I mean even at 60W, you're only at 3.0V.
Ok so I’ve tried it at 118w, had 4-5 decent drags. I can taste more flavour but I think the nicotine of 3mg may be taking effect toward the “burning” or the “dry” sensation at the back of my throat. I know it’s not the coil dying out as I’ve just about put the 0.15ohm T8 cool in today. So my only assumption would be the nicotine of 3mg. If that is the case, then I’ll just have to deal with it with a new lesson learned for next time. Also, you mentioned you’re using the 0.15ohm coil too, are you also using the same juice (dinner lady - Lemon tart)?
 
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Ok so I’ve tried it at 118w, had 4-5 decent drags. I can taste more flavour but I think the nicotine of 3mg may be taking effect toward the “burning” or the “dry” sensation at the back of my throat. I know it’s not the coil dying out as I’ve just about put the 0.15ohm T8 cool in today. So my only assumption would be the nicotine of 3mg. If that is the case, then I’ll just have to deal with it with a new lesson learned for next time. Also, you mentioned you’re using the 0.15ohm coil too, are you also using the same juice (dinner lady - Lemon tart)?

No.

So in my experience, prime time settings usually hover around the 4.2V mark. Which for a 0.15 coil is just under 120W.

I wouldn't be surprised, being that it's a pre-made coil, it's unable to wick quickly enough to support vaping at that wattage. Normally when you get builds this low, you're using an RDA/RTA/RSA/RDTA with big massive cotton wicks sitting directly in a pool of juice.

Let's compare for fun:

The juice is coming in from those little dinky rectangles on the sides:

inside-smok-t8-v8-coil.jpg


In this case, the big wicks are literally sitting on a puddle of juice:

85531-49313c08cb0055c1ac8710d69f0baa93.jpg


I'm not going to be able to solve your problem I think. Someone else will have to chime in. But from someone sitting on the outside I think the problem is a design problem. 120W to get to 4.2V, but then with little wicking area to support that kind of juice consumption.
 

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No.

So in my experience, prime time settings usually hover around the 4.2V mark. Which for a 0.15 coil is just under 120W.

I wouldn't be surprised, being that it's a pre-made coil, it's unable to wick quickly enough to support vaping at that wattage. Normally when you get builds this low, you're using an RDA/RTA/RSA/RDTA with big massive cotton wicks sitting directly in a pool of juice.

Let's compare for fun:

The juice is coming in from those little dinky rectangles on the sides:

inside-smok-t8-v8-coil.jpg


In this case, the big wicks are literally sitting on a puddle of juice:

85531-49313c08cb0055c1ac8710d69f0baa93.jpg


I'm not going to be able to solve your problem I think. Someone else will have to chime in. But from someone sitting on the outside I think the problem is a design problem. 120W to get to 4.2V, but then with little wicking area to support that kind of juice consumption.
I really do appreciate the effort you’ve made to explain this to a newbie thank you. I’ll try my luck with a recommendation at my local vape shop. Perhaps he’ll know which atomiser/coils would better suit my style of vape, and the smok 220w
 
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I really do appreciate the effort you’ve made to explain this to a newbie thank you. I’ll try my luck with a recommendation at my local vape shop. Perhaps he’ll know which atomiser/coils would better suit my style of vape, and the smok 220w

You could try poking some holes with a pin. If I get a particularly tough to vape coil this usually solves it.
 

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poking some holes through the cotton (assuming on the side) ? Haven’t heard that before. Still open minded though!
Read about it somewhere for my Uwell Crown ages ago but saw a video from Rip the other night about solving dry hits in a Smok Baby so I'd go as far as to try it. The video was on YouTube showing his technique.
 
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No.

So in my experience, prime time settings usually hover around the 4.2V mark. Which for a 0.15 coil is just under 120W.

I wouldn't be surprised, being that it's a pre-made coil, it's unable to wick quickly enough to support vaping at that wattage. Normally when you get builds this low, you're using an RDA/RTA/RSA/RDTA with big massive cotton wicks sitting directly in a pool of juice.

Let's compare for fun:

The juice is coming in from those little dinky rectangles on the sides:

inside-smok-t8-v8-coil.jpg


In this case, the big wicks are literally sitting on a puddle of juice:

85531-49313c08cb0055c1ac8710d69f0baa93.jpg


I'm not going to be able to solve your problem I think. Someone else will have to chime in. But from someone sitting on the outside I think the problem is a design problem. 120W to get to 4.2V, but then with little wicking area to support that kind of juice consumption.
With my smok set up, i went big. The tfv12 king. I get plenty of flavor from it, using the different coil combos they offer. I usually stay within the wattage range printed on the side of the coil, roughly the middle of whatever it says. Smok coils used to have a nasty new cotton taste for the first couple tankfuls, but i think they have improved this.
 

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"I really do appreciate the effort you’ve made to explain this to a newbie thank you. I’ll try my luck with a recommendation at my local vape shop. Perhaps he’ll know which atomiser/coils would better suit my style of vape, and the smok 220w"
Welcome and glad you joined.
Sounds like your on the way to solving your problem, the manufacturer's recommendations are usually right on. Problems arise when the vaper, equipment, or juice is not in harmony with each other.
 
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