Difference in "The Buzz"

[Jenna]

Has anyone else noticed a difference in the buzz you get from a PV and that of an Analog???

I've been using my 510 for almost exactly 24 hours (NOT STRAIGHT, I had to sleep ) but yesterday morning when I smoked my last analog my normal buzz involved feeling slightly lightheaded and jittery like I drank too much coffee with an undertone of calm that I was after...

Now with just vaping 12mg juice there is no normal analog buzz (lightheadedness and jitter), just CALM like the world could blow up and I'd be ZEN.

I have to wonder if the dizzy/jitter feeling is from the SMOKE and CHEMICALS...

This is really nice, I feel like I curl up and a take a nice little nappy poo

 

[ejoker]

i think you got it. we're getting basically nic to provide the 'buzz', as opposed to smoking with its 4000 chemicals. although i do still get a mild headrush, particularly if i grab a 36mg.

 

[martha1014]

The only time I got a buzz from a cigarette is if I had not smoked one for hours. I never get a buzz from vaping. I don't need that buzz as long as I am satisfied. I vape 36 mg.

 

[In_Fidel]

I'm not getting the buzz that I'd like with 16mg. I was a heavy smoker, so I think it's time to up the dosage a little bit to around 36mg

 

[Jenna]

Holy cow.. Jumping from 16 to 36 might be a bit much. I'd try a 26mg first if I were you or at least get a 0mg juice too to cut it if the 36 is too strong...

 

[In_Fidel]

Yeah, I will def use with caution for the first time

 

[Kilroy]

Cigarettes contain monoamine oxidase inhibitors. They're anti-depressants and suppress the metabolization of dopamine. They may be a bigger part of tobacco addiction than nicotine itself. Our vaporizers, well most of our vaporizers, do not supply those. In addition there are some 4000 other chemicals that may contribute in one way or another to your enjoyment of tobacco. Even carbon monoxide...

 

[scheherezade]

Cigarettes contain monoamine oxidase inhibitors. They're anti-depressants and suppress the metabolization of dopamine. They may be a bigger part of tobacco addiction than nicotine itself. Our vaporizers, well most of our vaporizers, do not supply those. In addition there are some 4000 other chemicals that may contribute in one way or another to your enjoyment of tobacco. Even carbon monoxide...

And the MAO inhibitors are the reason that many people find it hard to get off of the antidepressents that they're handing out like candy these days, especially the short acting ones. The new ones are literally putting some people on the floor the first time they take them and there's tons of reports of withdrawal symptoms like electric shocks, crying, attempted and successful suicides. Of course thats only from the "legally" perscribed ones. Now you know why many of us turned into the most royal b*tch in the world when we tried to quit cold turkey. Just think, the FDA approved these.

 

[CaptJay]

Kilroy nailed it really but also you might find you start getting a lot more 'tired' while vaping (and off cigs completely). This is not abnormal, and is usually just your body's way of re-balancing its bio-chemicals, (smoking uots us all out of wack for a while) but its sometimes worth getting your thyroid checked over if it persists. Smoking can affect the function of thyroid (thats why smokers are told to quit if they have thyroid issues) and can also mask an underperforming thyroid. Excercise, and increasing liquid intake can also help with tiredness; excercise can also help because it releases chemicals your body enjoys, not unlike the MAOI in cigs.

 

[Jenna]

WOW, what a topic... I could cry reading these last two responses and I will tell you why;

You guys are not going to believe this but when I quit smoking cold turkey in April of 2005, two weeks into it I had a massive nervous breakdown that my entire family attributed to the death of my son in December of 2004 (I was 7 months pregnant when we lost him). I have struggled with anxiety disorder, depression, and agoraphobia since I was 10 BUT up until this incident of nervous breakdown and my husband calling 911 because he thought I was dying- I had always self managed my mental illnesses with herbs and aromatherpy and all that. I could control a massive panic attack with Kava Kava and deep breaths of Chamomile oil.
So, I quit cold turkey because I found out I was pregnant again and feeling like the other baby dying was my fault (he had an umbillical cord accident, not my fault), I was determined to not do anything wrong this time around and ciggs had to go. We all know how bad smoking is during pregnancy right? Even though I had smoked through two prior pregnancies and both times had 7 pounds beautifully healthy children... Well whatever.

Two weeks in I have a massive breakdown and now I MUST for the first time in my life turn to prescribed medication to manage my depression and anxiety.
They immeadiately put me on high doses of Zoloft, Kolonopin, Adavan, and Trazadone.
Keep in mind, I'm pregnant at this time! And a walking Zombie.

Now, 5 years later, I still take my Zoloft daily and my Trazadone is as needed for sleep and my Kolonopin is as needed for Anxiety attacks, but in reality I was taking them like m&ms to keep myself from feeling like the ground wasn't going to fall out from me any moment.
I never needed these things when I was smoking!

Three weeks ago I was out of town at the Rabbit showing nationals in PA. While there I split a room with another breeder and friend who smokes. I found myself going outside with her everytime she was smoking just to bask in her second hand smoke.
In the 4 days I was with her, at a super stressful rabbit show, I never needed a single kolonopin. She sent me home with half a pack of cigs (shame on her I know lol) even though I hadn't lit up for myself yet.
Two days after coming back I was having a really bad day and I remembered those cigs she gave me. I shut myself into the bathroom with the fan on and I smoked the first one in 5 years. It was nirvana. I knew right then I was in deep doo doo.
But I thought about it and allowed myself to have one per day. I smoked one cig a day for a week straight and in that entire week I didn't need one tranquilizer!
Now I'm on almost two weeks off my "as needed" tranquilizer.

Please accept my apology for the length of this reply but this is emotional for me. I said to my husband a week ago "I really think I had that breakdown because of quitting so suddenly" and then here you guys are talking about MAOI's in the cigs!!! THAT IS HUGE!

Blows my mind away and makes me SO sad. All those pills.... Ugh.

 

[Kilroy]

And the FDA, who is supposed to care about health, approves these dangerous things. I get so unbelievably aggravated about the whole thing. My favorite doctor described himself as a CD (country doctor) who peddled common sense. As opposed to an RD (real doctor) who peddles pieces of paper. I'll take a CD any day.

 

[CaptJay]

/hugs
aww sweetie What a tale

It sounds like your bio-chemistry is really out of wack - you might find vaping 'not enough' and rather than go back to cigs you could find Snus of benefit if youre having issues. They are little packets of tobacco (tiny tiny ones) you put against your gum that release MAOI without the cancer causing stuff. You do NOT spit with these - its not dip or chew.
You want the SWEDISH variety (proven safe and tested by swedes who suffer less cancer from tobacco products) rather than the american made as they are cured differently. Smokeless tobacco - E-Cigarette Forum has info you may find useful
And best of luck on your journey

 

[scheherezade]

WOW, what a topic... I could cry reading these last two responses and I will tell you why;

You guys are not going to believe this but when I quit smoking cold turkey in April of 2005, two weeks into it I had a massive nervous breakdown that my entire family attributed to the death of my son in December of 2004 (I was 7 months pregnant when we lost him). I have struggled with anxiety disorder, depression, and agoraphobia since I was 10 BUT up until this incident of nervous breakdown and my husband calling 911 because he thought I was dying- I had always self managed my mental illnesses with herbs and aromatherpy and all that. I could control a massive panic attack with Kava Kava and deep breaths of Chamomile oil.
So, I quit cold turkey because I found out I was pregnant again and feeling like the other baby dying was my fault (he had an umbillical cord accident, not my fault), I was determined to not do anything wrong this time around and ciggs had to go. We all know how bad smoking is during pregnancy right? Even though I had smoked through two prior pregnancies and both times had 7 pounds beautifully healthy children... Well whatever.

Two weeks in I have a massive breakdown and now I MUST for the first time in my life turn to prescribed medication to manage my depression and anxiety.
They immeadiately put me on high doses of Zoloft, Kolonopin, Adavan, and Trazadone.
Keep in mind, I'm pregnant at this time! And a walking Zombie.

Now, 5 years later, I still take my Zoloft daily and my Trazadone is as needed for sleep and my Kolonopin is as needed for Anxiety attacks, but in reality I was taking them like m&ms to keep myself from feeling like the ground wasn't going to fall out from me any moment.
I never needed these things when I was smoking!

Three weeks ago I was out of town at the Rabbit showing nationals in PA. While there I split a room with another breeder and friend who smokes. I found myself going outside with her everytime she was smoking just to bask in her second hand smoke.
In the 4 days I was with her, at a super stressful rabbit show, I never needed a single kolonopin. She sent me home with half a pack of cigs (shame on her I know lol) even though I hadn't lit up for myself yet.
Two days after coming back I was having a really bad day and I remembered those cigs she gave me. I shut myself into the bathroom with the fan on and I smoked the first one in 5 years. It was nirvana. I knew right then I was in deep doo doo.
But I thought about it and allowed myself to have one per day. I smoked one cig a day for a week straight and in that entire week I didn't need one tranquilizer!
Now I'm on almost two weeks off my "as needed" tranquilizer.

Please accept my apology for the length of this reply but this is emotional for me. I said to my husband a week ago "I really think I had that breakdown because of quitting so suddenly" and then here you guys are talking about MAOI's in the cigs!!! THAT IS HUGE!

Blows my mind away and makes me SO sad. All those pills.... Ugh.

I'm sorry that you've had to go through so much. I am glad that you're getting your life back. Try to remember, no one knew about all the stuff in cigs for quite a while. Even today, I doubt we really know everything thats in them. No part of your life is wasted. We all become who we are because of where we've been. One day your experiences may be the reason you can help someone else. We're all where we are for a reason.