Dicodes question

[E. A.]

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Dicodes Dani 25. I have been trying different builds and tanks with it ever since I received it. I have a question for those who have experience with Dicodes.

I tried multiple builds on different tanks: Titanium A1, Dicodes wire, SS316L, Inowire. I tried pretty much all of these wires with Taifun GT 3 and Kayfun V5. The liquid I am using is the one that I have been vaping for a very long time so I know how it is supposed to taste. It is 70VG/30PG 3mg Nic.

I also used the same coil builds (save for Dicodes wire) with same tanks on a DNA mod before I purchased Dani 25.

The problem I am having is, compared to a dna mod, I need to up the temperature much higher on dicodes (260-270C) to get a decent vape. Otherwise, if I vape it on 220-230C, which is what I am used to on a DNA mod, the mod hits the target temperature very quickly and gives a cold vape.

Is this normal?

I contacted dicodes and they told me that maybe the coefficients for the wires I am using are wrong but the dicodes wire is advertised to be a dead set on 320. And, the other wires I tried are not new spools. I have been using them with a dna mod with the same TCR values at much lower temparatures.

Any advise would be much appreciated.

 

[ShowerHead]

I'd say that all chipsets are different. My DNAs all vape the same with the same temp/wattage.
My Smoant needs something different, my Vaporesso different. All provide a consistent, smooth, 'same' vape. They all just require different temp to get there.
Don't forget, the temp setting usually is an informed guesstimate as to what you want the coil to be. None are accurately measuring the true temp of the wire.
Enjoy the Dani and forget about chip to chip comparisons.

 

[E. A.]

Yes, that's a very good point and as long as I keep the temperature a bit higher than what I am used to on a DNA device, the vape is as good.

Only reason I was worried was because I watched many videos on dicodes mods before I bought it and the reviewers looked to be getting a good vape on their dicodes devices at lower temperatures than what I need on mine.

 

[ShowerHead]

Yes, that's a very good point and as long as I keep the temperature a bit higher than what I am used to on a DNA device, the vape is as good.

Only reason I was worried was because I watched many videos on dicodes mods before I bought it and the reviewers looked to be getting a good vape on their dicodes devices at lower temperatures than what I need on mine.

As long as a mod is reproducible, I don't worry about temp settings. It's when the same coils, tank, and mod start needing 50F changes that I worry.

Were the reviewers using the same tank, juice, and most importantly, your mouth at those lower temps?

 

[TheotherSteveS]

which DNA chip are you using? I am a little surprised about this. My experience has been the opposite, at least with DNA 60 and 75 compared with dicodes.

 

[GeorgeS]

If the Dani is similar to their "box mods", unlike a DNA which reads resistance automagically, the Dicodes require a manual cold wire resistance calibration before use.

Dumb question: You are calibrating the resistance before use?

 

[E. A.]

Hi all,

If the Dani is similar to their "box mods", unlike a DNA which reads resistance automagically, the Dicodes require a manual cold wire resistance calibration before use.

Dumb question: You are calibrating the resistance before use?

Yes, I am calibrating before use while the coil is at room temperature. To do the calibration, from the menu I select Temp Init, then confirm to go to "Temp Confirm", and then confirm once more. The screen says "Process" and I let it do its thing.

which DNA chip are you using? I am a little surprised about this. My experience has been the opposite, at least with DNA 60 and 75 compared with dicodes.

I have a LV Drone BF, which I believe uses DNA250 chip and I also had a LV Therion DNA75c mod. I bought Dani to replace LV Therion Dna75C, which I sold away because of the way the batteries are inserted in that mod. It kept nicking my battery wraps.

Since my last post, I have been trying all sorts of different builds. The results seem to be the same. Same builds that I vaped at 220-230C on a DNA mod, requires 260-270C on Dani. As Showerhead said though, at the end of the day, the numbers do not matter as long as the vape quality is the same. Still a bit surprised, considering how highly dicodes mods are recommended.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Hi all,


Yes, I am calibrating before use while the coil is at room temperature. To do the calibration, from the menu I select Temp Init, then confirm to go to "Temp Confirm", and then confirm once more. The screen says "Process" and I let it do its thing.



I have a LV Drone BF, which I believe uses DNA250 chip and I also had a LV Therion DNA75c mod. I bought Dani to replace LV Therion Dna75C, which I sold away because of the way the batteries are inserted in that mod. It kept nicking my battery wraps.

Since my last post, I have been trying all sorts of different builds. The results seem to be the same. Same builds that I vaped at 220-230C on a DNA mod, requires 260-270C on Dani. As Showerhead said though, at the end of the day, the numbers do not matter as long as the vape quality is the same. Still a bit surprised, considering how highly dicodes mods are recommended.

I think it's important to say that the dicodes chips are very good, possibly the best. Your experiences are hard to understand and, in the end, as long as it is doing TC properly, the numbers don't matter I guess....

 

[Marc411]

Since my last post, I have been trying all sorts of different builds. The results seem to be the same. Same builds that I vaped at 220-230C on a DNA mod, requires 260-270C on Dani. As Showerhead said though, at the end of the day, the numbers do not matter as long as the vape quality is the same. Still a bit surprised, considering how highly dicodes mods are recommended.

How's it going EA. I just thought I would share my thoughts with you on the Dani since I own one as well as a couple mods with DNA chips.

The first thing is that I find very little consistency across the Dani, DNA, Yihi or any other chip in production. What temperature/wattage I use on one is normally different on another and that comparison is made across what I would consider "elite" chip manufacturers. Using 24ga 316L SS my settings are different on my Yihi, DNA and Dani mods, and my builds are always pretty damn close to the same. I use a four wrap spaced 99% of the time and I get ohm readings from .19Ω to .22Ω depending on the mod.

One thing I will note is the chips also read the ohm's slightly different, not by a huge margin but different none the less. And rarely do I get an exact match when building on my coil master, close but no cigar. The chips are built with different logic and therefore will not garner the same exact results. I love the Dani for it's accuracy but think the menu is a bit of a PITA.

I just stopped comparing and set up the mod based on what produces the best vape.

 

[E. A.]

Hello all,

Thanks for all the replies. Just a quick update on my tinkering with my new Dani 25. I decided to change the spools I have been using. I purchased SS316L and Titanium wires by UD. And, the results were very satisfying. I actually get a nice vape at around 220-240C. So, maybe the coefficients for the previous wires I was using were not correct?

I also continued experimenting with the Dicodes wire which is advertised as dead set on 320 TCR. I first made a twisted wire (2 strands) out of it and put it in Kayfun 5. It definitely was an improvement but I didn't like the taste much.

Afterwards, I am no expert on this but I thought that maybe the dicodes wire was too thin for a DL tank. It looks to be a 28 or 29ga wire. So, I put a normal round spaced coil in an MTL tank (Siren 2) and the result was fantastic. I hope someone can back what I am saying with actual information, but for temperature control to work at an expected temperature range (220-240C), the thickness of the coil relative to the airflow and the size of the chamber of the tank seems to be a factor.