Chain Vaping is for real.

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I'm not a forums guy but after browsing Google on multiple occasions, I've never found a person I can relate to, in terms of experience with smoking to vaping.

The many threads I find say something to the power of:
1. Smoking too much
2. Quit smoking
3. Vaping too much
4. Vaping decreased gradually

My experience has been quite the opposite actually. I smoked for 4 years, I quit with vape, continued to vape for 3 years, and gradually became a chain-vaper! The amount of vaping I've done has gone from the few puffs every hour, on the hour, to every waking moment.

Please tell me someone can relate.

I've found myself with headaches, asking myself why I can't put the damned thing down. I've told people that I wish I had a timed lockbox, so that my e-cig becomes inaccessible for an hour. I go through so much juice daily, it's unreal.

While it is an embarrassing claim, it's true, I'm not just being dramatic. I'll be the first to admit, I have an addictive personality. I've been grasped by alcohol and opiate addictions on separate occasions and quit both. I've been sober for 3 years now, and hey I even quit caffeine cold turkey lol. Why is this vape so tough to kick?

I don't want to quit necessarily, but I'd like to cut way down. I truly feel like vaping is much more addictive than all of the above. When opposed to cigarettes, maybe not in nicotine amounts but definitely the process is- for me.

It's apparent that vaping, to me, is a separate entity than smoking. At first, I used it as a cig substitute- which is why I only used it when I needed a fix AKA once every hour or so. Now, it is an alternative to breathing.

My (obvious) thoughts on causes:
- It's simply pleasant.
- Anywhere, anytime. I've become attached to my mod. Won't leave the house without batteries or juice. If I did, I'd have a panic attack.
- I'm a gamer, this is when I find myself puffing like a chimney. No more cigarette breaks was nice at first.
- I've found amazing quality/price juice, so I've stocked up over the years.
- Addictive personality, gotta find the next substitute somewhere.
- My time at home consists of: nothing. I like to be lazy.
- My time at work consists of: next to nothing. I have a LOT of down time (16 hour shifts).
- I'm a big money saver, I order juice like its nothing because money is not really tight.
- I stock up on everything. Atomizers, replacement glass, batteries, battery wraps. I'm not sure if people buy 20 replacement atomizers at once like I do lol.

I'm not a cloud chaser, I've never appealed to the trendy side of vaping. In fact, sometimes I try to hide my habit. The stigma of "manbun+fidget spinner = vaping" is cringe worthy and I'd rather not admit that I partake. I vape 1.5mg nic, I fill up my tank maybe 10 times a day and I have over 300 puffs a day.

If you have read to this point, you're a champ and I appreciate you. If you have thoughts or suggestions, I'd love to hear them. However, it has been therapeutic just writing this. I've recently found out that timed lockboxes do exist, and I plan to use one to cut down.

If you vape or plan to, I don't want to discourage you. In my mind, it's an all-around better experience than cigs. That said, I do think the process is more addictive. If I were you, I would just be careful of forming unnecessary habits. I don't care if no one is opposed to vaping indoors, don't do it! That will lead to chain vaping. Dedicate one area to vaping, just like we did with cigarettes. Try your best to occasionally vape, with at least 1 hour in between each session. and LET'S NOT BE NAIVE, vaping is not harmless and I can't stand when people claim it so!

Thanks for reading.

First, you've admitted to having a severely addictive personality - which is a behavior trait. You can't blame vaping for that.

As with anything, you have to know you intimately and work within your own personality for what works for you, personally.

You've already mentioned your hard pressed to find anyone with the same problems your having, likely because the high level of your addictive personality is rare...

Heck I took oxycontin for 10 years of my life, every single day due to severe injury, I took 20 mg in the morning 40mg in the afternoon and 40mg at bedtime with vicodin for breakthrough pain and more meds that weren't opioids for pain as well...

All this every single day for 10 years... and I stopped in one day. One day I decided I was ready to learn how to mentally deal with the pain (as it's here for life ) and so I quit taking the opiods. No tapering off, no counselling, just stopped.

While not medically advised, I had no ill affects at all short of feeling like I had a mild flu for a couple days. ..

I'm not the person you want to talk to about addictive personalities because outside of cigarettes I don't have one, and really cannot relate.

However, I do take some measure of umbrage at your statement that vaping is worse than cigarettes and opiods for addiction, because that's the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard.

I went 5 hours this morning without so much as a drag off my mod, my first drag happened around noon after getting up at 7am, and again i went a few hours this afternoon without a drag because I went out to dinner with my husband on this, his last day of vacation - I took no mod with me because I didn't need to.

YoUR latching onto vaping because your an addict who needs to be latched onto something - anything... work on your own personality and how to overcome it, just like with anything else.

Try increasing your nicotine a little and then do what you need to do for you to cut down on the amount your vaping if that is what you need to do for your own peace of mind.
 
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I can sit and make jewelry. which requires two hands, for maybe 20 minutes at a time without puffing. (puff). There is a new thing called a figit spinner that may help you do someting with your hands and engage your brain, since you think of vaping all the time, it may help. (puff). Good luck!!
My wife and I got Fidget Cubes, which are amazing. I keep mine in the car so I won't always have my vape (or phone!) in my hand.

But yeah, I'm a total chain vaper. Always one at hand when I'm home, two in the car whenever I go out, and I drive a lot for work. I only fear I'm doing it too much when I can't keep everything filled and charged.
 

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I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all. You have your low nic, high juice consumption vapor, then the high nic, low consumption vapor. I also am mtl, but vape high nic, 24mg, but only vape maybe 3mls per day, no chain vaping.....both ways are still better then smokes. I take a couple vapes and I'm good to go for a good while, because that high nic instantly satisfies me and keeps me from vaping constantly

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I fully agree. I wish, that I could vape that way, but...
I do both, MTL and DTL and I'm chain vaping in both modes. This is like opening a bowl filled with pop-corn. Once I start, I just can't stop :)
I mostly use 3mg for MTL and 1.5mg for DTL.
 

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I agree, either way it's better than smoking but I believe it's more of a psychological issue for me. I vape way past "satisified", I'm doing it just to pass time apparently. I vaped 18mg nic just as much. I quickly lowered because I realized low nic still has a throat hit. That's what I chased mainly.

I suppose it's frightening to think I've picked up this habit of vaping every waking moment to achieve mental satisfaction.
Yes I did the same with 18mg, but 24 makes a difference. ...Personally I think it's a bit healthier to vape a small amount of hi nic juice then large amounts of low nic juice, but who knows. I feel the nic is actually a safer option to the other chemicals in eliquid , but I don't know for sure...but if your chaining even that, then it's probably not the nic like you said and just a personality thing

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Yes I did the same with 18mg, but 24 makes a difference. ...Personally I think it's a bit healthier to vape a small amount of hi nic juice then large amounts of low nic juice, but who knows. I feel the nic is actually a safer option to the other chemicals in eliquid , but I don't know for sure...but if your chaining even that, then it's probably not the nic like you said and just a personality thing

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I agree....I just can't get myself to vape higher nic and less of it. I wish I could, but I really like my current vaping style. This will eventually change....it always does.
 

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Another option to break a chain vaping habit that doesn't sound like a nic issue is keep your mod in a different room. If you have to get up each time you want a puff, walk over, take a draw or two, put it down and return to your original location your chain vaping will decrease pretty fast. If you start hanging out in the same room as the mod, move it elsewhere.
 

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Another option to break a chain vaping habit that doesn't sound like a nic issue is keep your mod in a different room. If you have to get up each time you want a puff, walk over, take a draw or two, put it down and return to your original location your chain vaping will decrease pretty fast. If you start hanging out in the same room as the mod, move it elsewhere.
Yes. I do the same with the pop-corn :)
 

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I smoked 3 pp/d, and I chain-vape sometimes. Kind of a "Why the hell wouldn't I" kind of question for me. I will say if I'm busy and occupied, it improves. So, I set myself various and sundry tasks throughout the day (once I'm awake) and that helps. I know vaping is less addictive for me than smoking though, because I can go far longer without vaping which lets me know that even if I will chain-vape given the opportunity (same as smoking) I don't have to do it. Although I sometimes choose to because I enjoy it. Etc.

I'd suggest some exercise time, and some more structure in your day, including getting out of the house (maybe sometimes without your vape) and a lock box is a fine idea, too. With that said, as a fellow-addictively natured PERSON, I'm not going to blame chain-vaping on the "joy of vaping" that just isn't accurate. *I* am the actor, making the decisions I do, not vaping. You really have to approach it that way if you want to cut back, otherwise you will be fixating on vaping not your own addictive behaviors. Okay, so you tend toward extremism. I relate. Find some things that you can fixate on outside of chain-vaping, the more the merrier.

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I agree....I just can't get myself to vape higher nic and less of it. I wish I could, but I really like my current vaping style. This will eventually change....it always does.
I understand completely. ...during certain times of the day, or my mood, I find it even harsh. But then sometimes I feel it kind of weak, so it's ok in the middle for me....everyone who tries my vape cough and say "how can you vape that"....so I definitely understand you first and foremost have to vape something that is comfortable. ...I often wonder if my vape now is more intense or has a bigger TH then my cigs I use to have, I don't remember , but feel like it's the same...

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First, you've admitted to having a severely addictive personality - which is a behavior trait. You can't blame vaping for that.

As with anything, you have to know you intimately and work within your own personality for what works for you, personally.

You've already mentioned your hard pressed to find anyone with the same problems your having, likely because the high level of your addictive personality is rare...

Heck I took oxycontin for 10 years of my life, every single day due to severe injury, I took 20 mg in the morning 40mg in the afternoon and 40mg at bedtime with vicodin for breakthrough pain and more meds that weren't opioids for pain as well...

All this every single day for 10 years... and I stopped in one day. One day I decided I was ready to learn how to mentally deal with the pain (as it's here for life ) and so I quit taking the opiods. No tapering off, no counselling, just stopped.

While not medically advised, I had no ill affects at all short of feeling like I had a mild flu for a couple days. ..

I'm not the person you want to talk to about addictive personalities because outside of cigarettes I don't have one, and really cannot relate.

However, I do take some measure of umbrage at your statement that vaping is worse than cigarettes and opiods for addiction, because that's the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard.

I went 5 hours this morning without so much as a drag off my mod, my first drag happened around noon after getting up at 7am, and again i went a few hours this afternoon without a drag because I went out to dinner with my husband on this, his last day of vacation - I took no mod with me because I didn't need to.

YoUR latching onto vaping because your an addict who needs to be latched onto something - anything... work on your own personality and how to overcome it, just like with anything else.

Try increasing your nicotine a little and then do what you need to do for you to cut down on the amount your vaping if that is what you need to do for your own peace of mind.
First, you've admitted to having a severely addictive personality - which is a behavior trait. You can't blame vaping for that.

As with anything, you have to know you intimately and work within your own personality for what works for you, personally.

You've already mentioned your hard pressed to find anyone with the same problems your having, likely because the high level of your addictive personality is rare...

Heck I took oxycontin for 10 years of my life, every single day due to severe injury, I took 20 mg in the morning 40mg in the afternoon and 40mg at bedtime with vicodin for breakthrough pain and more meds that weren't opioids for pain as well...

All this every single day for 10 years... and I stopped in one day. One day I decided I was ready to learn how to mentally deal with the pain (as it's here for life ) and so I quit taking the opiods. No tapering off, no counselling, just stopped.

While not medically advised, I had no ill affects at all short of feeling like I had a mild flu for a couple days. ..

I'm not the person you want to talk to about addictive personalities because outside of cigarettes I don't have one, and really cannot relate.

However, I do take some measure of umbrage at your statement that vaping is worse than cigarettes and opiods for addiction, because that's the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard.

I went 5 hours this morning without so much as a drag off my mod, my first drag happened around noon after getting up at 7am, and again i went a few hours this afternoon without a drag because I went out to dinner with my husband on this, his last day of vacation - I took no mod with me because I didn't need to.

YoUR latching onto vaping because your an addict who needs to be latched onto something - anything... work on your own personality and how to overcome it, just like with anything else.

Try increasing your nicotine a little and then do what you need to do for you to cut down on the amount your vaping if that is what you need to do for your own peace of mind.


I applaud you for what you've conquered. This is just my experience, I've truly felt this is the toughest thing I've had to put down. Having panic attacks when thinking about leaving it behind. It's not BS, to me, because everyone handles things differently. I wanted to see if anyone related to my experience.

One thing is certain, there is ample support on these forums. I'm used to getting trolled or ignored. Appreciate it, everyone.
 

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I applaud you for what you've conquered. This is just my experience, I've truly felt this is the toughest thing I've had to put down. Having panic attacks when thinking about leaving it behind. It's not BS, to me, because everyone handles things differently. I wanted to see if anyone related to my experience.

One thing is certain, there is ample support on these forums. I'm used to getting trolled or ignored. Appreciate it, everyone.

Just take it Little by Little.

You Didn't become a Chain Vaper overnight. Chance are you're Not going to Break this Habit overnight either. The Goal, for Me, would be to get a Little Better Everyday.

So Every night when you close your eyes you can Sleep better because you Know you are getting a Handle on Things.
 

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Just take it Little by Little.

You Didn't become a Chain Vaper overnight. Chance are you're Not going to Break this Habit overnight either. The Goal, for Me, would be to get a Little Better Everyday.

So Every night when you close your eyes you can Sleep better because you Know you are getting a Handle on Things.

BTW - One time when I was trying to Cut Down on Smoking, I used a Countdown Timer on my phone. I would set it to like 30 Minutes and when it would go Off, I would Smoke.

Then after 2 or 3 days, I would set it for like 35 or 40 Minutes.

It kinda Worked. Because I could look at it and See how much Longer I had to wait until I could Light Up. Instead of just sitting there feeling like it had been 27 Lifetimes since my last Smoke. When in Reality it had only been 22 Minutes.

It also gave me some Goals to meet. And a Way to kinda Track that I was Doing Better.
 

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I applaud you for what you've conquered. This is just my experience, I've truly felt this is the toughest thing I've had to put down. Having panic attacks when thinking about leaving it behind. It's not BS, to me, because everyone handles things differently. I wanted to see if anyone related to my experience.

One thing is certain, there is ample support on these forums. I'm used to getting trolled or ignored. Appreciate it, everyone.

Read the book I linked you to. It's scientific in nature as it's based on scientific studies and their findings and has helpful tips... you might find some idea in it that has real value to you.
 

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My wife and I both started vaping a little over 2 years ago, both of us using pen vapes at 24 mg.

My wife is still using a pen vape, now at 18 mg. She has no interest in moving on to bigger and better units. She only vapes in the evening after she has had her trip to the gym or has run a few miles.

Me, I have 5 setups, mostly DTL making my own coils, vaping at 6 mg, .5 or .6 ohm single coil. I chain vape. I'll vape on my way to the gym and as soon as I leave the gym. I vape a lot more than my wife and she will occasionally make a comment about it but she doesn't nag me.

Sometimes I think I need to cut back but I haven't made any real effort to do it. I enjoy. It is so much more pleasurable than smoking was.
 
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