Buffalo NY bans vaping

[abstractboro]

It is now illegal in Buffalo to use electronic cigarettes in any venue where the city bans smoking traditional tobacco cigarettes.“This does not outlaw e-cigarettes,” Council President Darius G. Pridgen said after the Common Council on Tuesday unanimously adopted the new regulations Mayor Byron W. Brown quickly signed the legislation.
The new rules strictly mirror the city’s existing tobacco law on where you cannot vape, said Pridgen who sponsored the legislation.
Buffalo becomes the first community in Erie County to regulate e-cigarettes, which are regulated in some other cities across the country, including New York City and Chicago. Erie County is considering similar restrictions for the entire county.
The city rules take effect immediately. Electronic cigarettes are now banned in the city on public transportation, in public elevators, in city-owned and leased buildings, and many large retail and wholesale businesses.
The ban also includes city schools, with exemptions made for adults using faculty rooms or other designated areas.
The new Buffalo rules also reinforce an existing state law making it illegal to sell electronic cigarettes to anyone under the age of 18 years old.

E-cigarette ban mirrors regulation on tobacco - City & Region - The Buffalo News

I'm not very happy about this. Does this mean I can't even vape in the vape shop???

 

[TomGeorge]

Vape shops may be under an exemption like cigar shops but I dont know for certain.

I also live in Buffalo, I knew they were talking about doing this but didnt know that it had passed There are about 4 vapers where I work, I hope the boss doesnt make us go outside to vape now...

 

[abstractboro]

I know cigar stores pay for a license to be a tobacco smoking lounge, and those permits aren't cheap. this kind of bothers me because it's one step closer to regulation as a tobacco product which it is not. If this catches on it'll be a matter of time before it becomes big tobaccos game and taxes go through the roof

I was just in HOV kenmore a bit ago, it's only the city of Buffalo, so if you're in kenmore, amherst, tonawanda, nothings changed. I help run a store on Hertel and apparently can't vape here anymore... $500 fine for vaping in public places.

They passed it at 2 pm yesterday.

 

[stevegmu]

Buffalo NY bans vaping

Really?

“This does not outlaw e-cigarettes,” Council President Darius G. Pridgen

Interesting...

 

[TomGeorge]

I know cigar stores pay for a license to be a tobacco smoking lounge, and those permits aren't cheap. this kind of bothers me because it's one step closer to regulation as a tobacco product which it is not. If this catches on it'll be a matter of time before it becomes big tobaccos game and taxes go through the roof

I was just in HOV kenmore a bit ago, it's only the city of Buffalo, so if you're in kenmore, amherst, tonawanda, nothings changed. I help run a store on Hertel and apparently can't vape here anymore... $500 fine for vaping in public places.

They passed it at 2 pm yesterday.

That is slightly relieving, I dont spend much time in the city anyways but it is not a good development for us vapers....

Of topic, but while you were in HOV did you notice if they had the Goblin by UD? its an RTA

 

[rothenbj]

Get out there in the cold and snow like the rest of those sinners. Ridiculous.

 

[inspects]

The real problem is most people do NOT understand the difference between smoking and vaping.....truly sad.

 

[Lisa Belle]

The real problem is most people do NOT understand the difference between smoking and vaping.....truly sad.

If this trend continues, they never will. Obama, is adding a 94% tax hike on all tobacco in his budget proposal including ..... non combustibles, (ecigs) ... Federal Tax.

 

[rothenbj]

If this trend continues, they never will. Obama, is adding a 94% tax hike on all tobacco in his budget proposal including ..... non combustibles, (ecigs) ... Federal Tax.

You know, if all smokers and vapers united and let it be know that enough is enough and they'd vote against anyone the supported any additional taxes on "tobacco products", it would come to an end and they'd have to find other sources to fill their coffers. Assuming that 26% of the population would fall into the classification of "tobacco user" and half were Dems and half Repubs, you're talking about a swing of 13% of the vote. That should be enough to swing most elections Heck, it's considered a landslide at 55% of the vote. Politicians would be terrified after one election.
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[DC2]

You know, if all smokers and vapers united and let it be know that enough is enough and they'd vote against anyone the supported any additional taxes on "tobacco products", it would come to an end and they'd have to find other sources to fill their coffers. Assuming that 26% of the population would fall into the classification of "tobacco user" and half were Dems and half Repubs, you're talking about a swing of 13% of the vote. That should be enough to swing most elections Heck, it's considered a landslide at 55% of the vote. Politicians would be terrified after one election.
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And just think if we got our friends, family, and even some co-workers to support us.
I have no doubt we are a powerful force, as long as we just try.

 

[inspects]

If this trend continues, they never will. Obama, is adding a 94% tax hike on all tobacco in his budget proposal including ..... non combustibles, (ecigs) ... Federal Tax.

I ordered two 55 gallon drums of nicotine.....I'll be making my own juice.

Like tobacco being taxed to death, soon liquid nicotine will be to.

 

[rothenbj]

I ordered two 55 gallon drums of nicotine.....I'll be making my own juice.

Like tobacco being taxed to death, soon liquid nicotine will be to.

I hope you plan on sharing. I don't know how old you are but 110 gallons should last a few lifetimes unless it goes bad first.

 

[BuGlen]

You know, if all smokers and vapers united and let it be know that enough is enough and they'd vote against anyone the supported any additional taxes on "tobacco products", it would come to an end and they'd have to find other sources to fill their coffers. Assuming that 26% of the population would fall into the classification of "tobacco user" and half were Dems and half Repubs, you're talking about a swing of 13% of the vote. That should be enough to swing most elections Heck, it's considered a landslide at 55% of the vote. Politicians would be terrified after one election.
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I would really like to believe this is true, but I have a hard time crunching the numbers (votes) in our current partisan environment. How do you get a registered party voter to vote for the other major party when they basically only disagree with their own party on one issue? I'm not talking about the moderates from each party, but rather those that reside further left or right on most ideological points and refuse to address individual issues.

Maybe I'm just getting jaded on the potential of people to be free thinkers due to all the battles I've been having in the comments section of e-cig op-ed and junk science articles. Some days it's harder to be optimistic than others.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

If this trend continues, they never will. Obama, is adding a 94% tax hike on all tobacco in his budget proposal including ..... non combustibles, (ecigs) ... Federal Tax.

Would be interested in the source of the information that e cigarettes would be included. Couple of pages of Google fu and I couldn't find a source.

 

[Andrew C Firsching]

God I HATE!!!!!! NY you can't have or do anything any more with out the state having there hand and (insert sarcasam) infinite wisdom involved.

 

[CajunCloud]

God I HATE!!!!!! NY you can't have or do anything any more with out the state having there hand and (insert sarcasam) infinite wisdom involved.

And just think everyone that lives there pays them to do it to them. Yet they don't seem to care. Some people actually think the government is the answer to all issues and are more than willing to let them rake everyone over the tax coals to pay for it. Even though you can't point to a single government project that was ever finished on time, on budget AND actually accomplished what it set out to do. If you can find any the % of the whole would be a fraction of a fraction.