bought Myle but was I duped?

[stols001]

Look yes, you have a pretty high nicotine content pod, but the delivery system is rather weak. Doing the math doesn't really do much, because nicotine in a vape is far different than the way nicotine is absorbed in a cigarette. It's not a 1: 1 comparison. You will have to decide if you like it enough for the price and if it stops the tobacco craving. There is no hard and fast "rule' that you have to consume x amount of a pod in a day. If you are concerned about nicotine strength and you were an occasional smoker, you could vape the pod less often. Often, a higher nic content can be HELPFUL in terms of switching entirely from tobacco as you will still be detoxing off everything else in tobacco..

If it's the hand to mouth action you find more soothing you can certainly get a more adjustable device that you fill yourself with liquid you buy at a specified content, and it can certainly be much lower, but you may find yourself vaping more to compensate the body is a pretty good self adjusting system, and after you find a good beginner pod or tank and battery system, then you are in control of your liquid type and etc., and if buying something more adjustable, well wattage and airflow and everything else. You would certainly be within your right to return the pod mod to the vendor who recommended it, whether he will offer a return is anyone's guess.

But, unless you are going through 15 pods a day or are otherwise exhibiting other problems, well, I'm not sure I'd worry that much, use what you have to get away from cigarettes completely, learn more about vaping, and THEN buy a different system so you can slowly work on lowering your nicotine.

You do need to be satisfied while vaping, on the one hand. Could you go lower nic, most proably, but often times strength of nic is balanced against the strength of the delivery system. The body self adjusts, so unless you feel you may be "personally setting yourself back" with the nicotine, if it's working, well maybe continue to use it or step down to something else where you can choose your OWN nicotine level, neither are bad choices, exactly, you just need to figure out what you WANT to do and how you want to approach it.

I was a 3 ppd smoker, and I quit on 18 mg/ml nicotine, so there's that. I vaped frequently and was under low stress, so there was that. All those thing contribute to "ultimate nic outcome needed.":

Anna

 

[tara81]

Welcome and glad you joined. The information below may help you decide.
Might like to read:
The Sweet Spot: How Much Nicotine do You Need/Want in Your Vape?
Since MYLE is a non refillable pod system, I would look at the refillable Suorin iShare Single Portable Kit (refillable pod cartridge) below:
Suorin iShare SINGLE Portable Pod Kit | Vape System

Although cheap, the suorin only has a 130 mah battery. You would need probably two if these .

 

[madstabber]

In the device you are using 50mg is not that high. We absorb far less nicotine in vapor form than in smoke form. I don’t think anyone has worked out the ratio to say this much nic vaped equals this much smoke smoked. I agree with you that nicotine is addictive, I just don’t think it’s as addictive when it’s in vapor form and without all the extra addictive chemicals big tobacco added to cigarettes to increase their profits by keeping us smoking.

 

[stols001]

Well, I think nicotine was always ENOUGH for a somewhat mild, less intense sort of tobacco addiction and certainly there are substances BESIDES nic that cause satiation like MAOI-A and -B, but I am old enough to remember a time when I didn't smoke like a rat pressing a pellet, frantically over and over and etc. Maybe I was just young in my tobacco/nic addiction, but I don't think it was JUST that. The more additives and humectants and nasty OTHER things that got added (not to mention raising the nicotine levels per cigarette, over time and overall) contributed to the chemical SOUP I was intensely addicted to, to the point I was smoking like every 10 minutes.

I will say, nicotine level being HIGH enough (and some WTA) put to bay a lot of the "I MUST smoke" feelings I had when I quit, but vaping has never been exactly like smoking for me, where I couldn't go five minutes without wanting one, and 10 minutes without SMOKING one. Etc.

I do think nic level matters, but don't forget at ANY nic level you MAY feel weird as you detox off your final few cigarettes and etc.

With that said, if it makes YOU personally uncomfortable, get a different device. Etc.

Anna

 

[billthetroll]

Yea I see the pod debate thing and I understand it.that's why I chose s open pod based system not a closed one so it didn't cost me all that money every year.I get a 30ml bottle of 25% nic salt which is really weak and it cost me 15$ every 10 days, not 3 to 4$ a day o and by the way a pod has lasted me up to 13 days with dropping in taste it vaper.so yea I do get the money side of all this but I did my homework so it Don t cost me much at all

 

[billthetroll]

And I forgot,nic salts hit your system faster but leave faster too.that's why I use this inbetween my normal device.it helps with the cost of my normal vape juice budget.which ever since i started making my own coils has been lol...........let's just say running kinda high.this air pod system has dropped that alot.so I save money buying "normal" e juice plus nic salts and the exstra pods.

 

[englishmick]

Thanks for all the replies, guys! I appreciate it.

I think for me, I'm not really that worried about going back to smoking. In the past, I quit for 6 years without a slip-up. I only started smoking again this year because it was an insanely stressful year but as I said, I've been slowly weaning myself down to only a couple cigs per day. So I don't think I'm at a high risk to buy another pack of cigs as long as I have a vape.

I think I am freaked out by the idea that I am suddenly jumping up to getting the equivalent of 20 cigs per day in nicotine which I worry will make me way more addicted than I was.

I did the math and it seems like 9-10 puffs of this 50mg/ml vape pod is equal to one cigarette. Does that math seem right? So one question I have is: if I want to keep the pen at least for the time being but stick to the amount of nicotine I was getting before should aim to take only 20 - 30 puffs of it per day?

Thanks again!

Like several people have said, there really isn't a reliable way of comparing mg's of nic vaped to number of cigs smoked.

I suspect the makers of some pod systems inflate the ratio to make their products sound more potent. They charge you quite a lot of money for a nicotine pod, so telling you their pod is equivalent to some large number of cigs justifies their high cost. That number is essentially arbitrary IMO.

You said you were still smoking a couple of cigs a day. Getting down that low without any substitute form of nicotine is impressive. But it sounds like you weren't able to get past that last hurdle and felt you needed some help there. If vaping gives you the boost you need then just go for it. Given your history you likely won't need vaping for long anyway.

I certainly don't think you need to worry about vaping recharging your smoking addiction. It just doesn't seem to work like that. Look at it this way. Another option would be to get your nic from lozenges or patches. There seems to be zero evidence of anyone, ever, getting addicted to those products. Why would vaping be different?

Good luck

 

[billthetroll]

Ok I might be wrong so if I am please excuse me and tell me how you feel.it looks to me as you kinda like the idea of vaping, nothing bad about that.it's not as bad as smoking and it gives you that nic that you want without all the garbage and without stinking.look most of us are over the cigs.I probably could put down my mod/mods if I wanted to but I dont.I like vaping.by the way the pod in most of the smaller systems is about a pack of cigs 50mg of nic salt in the juul is a pack that myle might be another size I don't know.I don't know why someone on here would tell you nic isn't addictivethat's crazy.it's not as addictive as a cig because of all the other garbage they put in them so you keep buying them but it is addictive.another thing yes all the pod devices have short battery life but no need to go out and buy 2 they recharge fast.everyone has plugs around them or car chargers just plug it in for 15 mins and you're done it's not like 18650 bats where you need a huge charger and 2 hours.

 

[dsites]

If you aren't smoking, you're doing fine.

 

[tara81]

Others have said it isn't as strong as it sounds, so the choice really is yours. Try it out and see how it goes. If you feel it's too strong just stop

I haven't tried any pod systems, but from what I've been reading, they don't deliver flavor very well. Mints, strong fruity or candy flavors like wild watermelon , sweet tangerine , lemon pie, can be really useful in these pod systems and mtl vaping.

 

[billthetroll]

Others have said it isn't as strong as it sounds, so the choice really is yours. Try it out and see how it goes. If you feel it's too strong just stop

I haven't tried any pod systems, but from what I've been reading, they don't deliver flavor very well. Mints, strong fruity or candy flavors like wild watermelon , sweet tangerine , lemon pie, can be really useful in these pod systems and mtl vaping.

The smok fit i have is great, I got that lava flow from naked 100.it's a nic salt and it's great, so much flavor.

 

[tara81]

The smok fit i have is great, I got that lava flow from naked 100.it's a nic salt and it's great, so much flavor.

Is that one the fruity mix?

 

[billthetroll]

Is that one the fruity mix?

Yea, I have a strawberry milk around here to from some company.lots of good flavors of nic salts.like I said in this post I use mine as a quick bump.I've not had a cig in years and I love vaping but alo tof the times my normal mods just isn't enough.I need something more and that's where my pod device comes into play.flavor is great on any juice that I personally think is good.

 

[Rangertrix]

ok but this product only comes in 50mg/ml pods so that is REALLY high right?

It is a nic salt device and can't be compared to regular nicotine levels in standard e liquid.

I vape 3mg and 6mg standard e liquid in my advanced devices and vape 36mg nic salt liquid in my stealth vape pod devices.

When I initially stopped smoking and started vaping I started with 18mg and 24mg standard e liquid.

Nic salt liquid allows you to vape at higher nic levels without harshness and the nic is absorbed more efficiently. Higher efficiency allows you to vape less often to curb your nicotine jones than with lower nic standard e liquids.

It's not the nicotine level that makes vaping safer than cigarettes. It's the other byproducts and carcinogens found in cigarette smoke that make them more dangerous.

Nicotine in small doses is no more harmful than caffeine.
If the Myle is working for you, you like its performance, and can afford the replacement pods then I wouldn't be concerned about its nic level.

If you choose to stick with vaping, you will most likely upgrade at a later date to more advanced devices.
I personally wouldn't concern myself with finding a different device until I had established that it was going to work for me and I was going to continue with it.
If it isn't performing well for you, then I would look at some the other beginner devices that have been mentioned.

 

[denali_41]

look at it this way, no matter how strong your pod system is or isn't !!! you are NOT smoking,smoking is far more dangerous to you and your body then any nic level pod,,unless it is over 100mg which can give you a heart attack
personally,i'd say stick with what you have until its gone ,should work rather well to make the transition
next few days research whats out there ,not just pod systems either

 

[djsvapour]

I did the math and it seems like 9-10 puffs of this 50mg/ml vape pod is equal to one cigarette. Does that math seem right?

No. That is just a wild guess.