bought Myle but was I duped?

[Renae222]

Hello,

I am 100% new to vaping. I have been slowly trying to quit smoking cigarettes and am down to only a couple per day. After I finished my last pack I decided not to buy another and to buy a vaping system instead. I went into the vape store across the street from my apartment and I told the guy that I was quitting smoking and wanted something with a LOW nicotine content—something lower than what I was currently smoking. He pointed me to the Myle system. I asked repeatedly if a puff of this would be less nicotine than a puff of a cigarette. He insisted that it was WAY less. I purchased that system and have been smoking it the last day or so. But then when I went to research I am finding that 5% nicotine content in a .9ml cartridge (which I THINK is about 50mg of nicotine per cartridge? but I might be wrong?) is WAY more nicotine than what I had been smoking with cigarettes -- online it says 50mg is recomended for people who smoke TWO PACKS PER DAY.

Have I been duped? Should I get rid of the Myle system? am I essentially smoking 2 packs per day right now? (have probably smoked about half a cartridge in the past day and a half?)

I really would appreciate some advice. I'm pretty upset but I actually really liked this system so I am hoping someone will tell me that it's an equivelent amount of nictotine to a few cigs a day?

Thanks!!!

 

[Storm52]

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your decision to quit. You have a cartridge with 50mg per 1mg of juice. Now that shouldn't scare you, as you absorb nic differently via vaping than smoking. That being said, you weren't sold a device with low nicotine content. You might return to the shop and ask for a refill cartridge with 25 or 35 percent Mic if one is available.

 

[suprtrkr]

The exact amount of the nicotine in the system is just a number. If your purpose is to quit smoking, the right question to ask is if there's enough nicotine to still the cravings so you don't go back to smoking. I can not answer your question specifically. I am unfamiliar with the system you mention and determining the exact nicotine content of a cigarette is problematic, and variable anyway by brand and tobacco yields and other matters. I can say, if it keeps you off the smokes, you have not been duped as this is what you bought it for. So long as the nicotine content is great enough to help you, and not so much you are getting nic-sick from overdose-- headache, nausea, shakes-- the time to worry about nic content is later, after you're sure smoking is no longer a risk factor. I won't say nicotine is good for you, but the really bad stuff in cigarettes is other chemicals, and you've already gotten away from them if you aren't smoking.

 

[tara81]

After googling this myle pod system, on a website it showed the only pod options were 5% nicotine per 0.9ml pod. So maybe that's the only options for this system. I suggest buying a vaping kit that allows you to refill your tank (pod area) instead of using a pod , it will be much cheaper as a bottle of 30ml ejuice can be the same price as just 1 of those tiny 1 ml capacity pods. You would have to buy coils, but coils should last at least 1 week per coil , and some coils last longer and are only $2-5 per coil) The start up cost will be more pricey, but you will get a better experience and it will be much cheaper in the end, especially if one pod lasts less then 1 week.

It sounds like you are using a nicotine salt device, which is delivering a lot of nicotine without feeling a throat hit. You can buy a bottle of ejuice with 3-12 mg ejuice instead of using nicotine salt ejuice. Use 50/50 pg/vg ejuice for the best flavor/throat hit in a MTL device such as:

Refillable pod like devices :

small:

Vladdin Vapor RE Ultra Portable System( 200mah?)
smok infinix (200 mah?)

medium size: (1000 mah range perhaps)

aspire breeze 2
innokin Endura T20


Cigalike: (looks and feels like a cigarette!)

mig cig starter kit (200 mah)
(some might suggest v2 or halo but halo clearomizers taste like rubber imo, v2 doesn't have constant 4.2 volts)

Small box mod kit: (better flavor - better battery life - but not as tiny as the other kits)
innokin Kroma-A + Zenith Tank Kit

mixing and matching tank + small box mod:
-mixing and matching the zenith tank or nautilis mini tank with a vape mod like: **These two tanks are probably the best Mouth To Lung (cigarette inhale like) vaping for flavor, without diving into rebuildables.
vapresso tarot nano (2300 mah)
the nugget (1100 mah)
innokin coolfire mini (1300 mah)
innokin pebble (1300 mah)
Wismec RX Mini – 80W – (2100 mAh Battery)

I can also say with experience vapresso and innokin have internal chips with a lot of protection features. mig cig has overcharge protection and most ecigs have a 10-12 second cutt off feature + more . You would have to read their specs for each.

 

[brewbear]

First things first, Welcome to the forum, you will get a lot of help here. Congratulations on your decision to make the switch.
Were you duped?? Well, yes and no. Yes, the Mylo and pretty much all the pod systems on the market today rely on nicotine salts and lots of it! Your choice to stop smoking cigarettes is what really counts.
In a way, I'd say you weren't duped because you were sold a "plug and play" system that will help you make the transition....though the sales guy didn't really know what he was selling you. He just sold you the one thing he had available and heard/knew? it will be much like a cigarette in the way it draws and delivers nicotine. I will say that it is much better than what many of us started with and not as costly.
Stick with it, other systems are available now or soon to be released. The Zenith tank and any mod(battery pack) that will accommodate a 24 mm tank will work (just don't go back to that store) or check out the AIO threads see what others like and use.
Keep in mind the end result is stopping smoking.

 

[billthetroll]

I got a smok fit,it's a nice lil system about what you got but I can refill mine with what juice i want.dont give up the myle pod is like one pack but it's not the same thing it's not a combustible material you're putting into your body.like the saying Apple's to oranges it's not all the junk you get in cigs.you can't look at this so black and white.vaping is a harm reducer when you need to come off cigs without withdrawal.most of us started because it helped up get off cigs got us to the point where we could breathe.if you want to stop after the withdrawal symptoms stop, stop I know lots of people that did.most of us just keep on vaping because we liked it.

 

[djsvapour]

Welcome.

$4.50 per pod is what they charge. For 0.9ml of liquid. That means your liquid is being charge like it was melted gold, because of the container it is in, just the same as printer ink - and that is certain a scam.

If you manage to get away with only 1 pod per day, that's $1,600 a year minimum.
Some people drift easily onto 2 pods a day before working out a few things.
Then your into $3,000+ per year.

I vape for $200 a year maximum. So - decide for yourself is that's good value.

You haven't been duped exaclty. 50mg liquid 'vaped' at low power might not be any more nicotine than smoking cigarettes although.. depending on what sort of smoker you were you could be increasing your addiction.

Vapers Sue Juul For Nicotine Addiction

TLDR.

These systems are about getting your money and keeping you addicted. It's not being duped if you know what you are getting into. Trouble is, everyone is a newbie to start.

I wouldn't go near that system ever, nor recommend it ever. If someone had started, I'd suggest using it, get off the smokes, then consider other options that aren't about cold, hard, shameful profit.

 

[Letitia]

If you are liking the system continue to use it and read through the forums to what else is out there. Many are liking pods and there is a forum here for them. I would suggest that you get a refillable pod system with cheap empty pods available.

 

[DaveP]

@Renae222, the common way to express nicotine content is milligrams per milliliter (mg/ml). 24mg/ml juice is typically the way that nicotine content in ecig juice is expressed.

24mg/ml juice is a high nic vape that many use to get off the cigarettes. It's what got me off the smokes easily. Some go all the way up to 36mg/ml to find their sweet spot for stopping the cigarette cravings.

Here's an article from Rolygate (ECF forum administrator) that explains it all.
Tobacco cigarette vs e-cigarette nicotine equivalency

 

[ppeeble]

There is no direct comparison between vaping and smoking. It is impossible to state that a given amount of nicotine in vaping liquid equates to smoking x number of cigarettes... You should not be using nicotine levels as a way determine the relative harms even though it is an easy assumption to make when uneducated in the ways of the vape !
Selling you that set up without an explanation why was naughty and probably motivated by profit - although it may have been what the seller considered the best option for you was. Without an explanation of the sellers reasoning we'll never know.
Bottom line is the nicotine content is not as important as the delivery method. If you vape 0.5ml of 50mg liquid a day and it works then that's good. If you vape 5ml of 6mg liquid and that works, well that's good too (we won't mention the 50ml a day vapers just because). As long as you don't overdose on nicotine (nausea, headaches and so forth) then you can rest assured that vaping is way less harmful than smoking ANY cigarettes.

 

[Izan]

Hello,

I am 100% new to vaping. I have been slowly trying to quit smoking cigarettes and am down to only a couple per day. After I finished my last pack I decided not to buy another and to buy a vaping system instead. I went into the vape store across the street from my apartment and I told the guy that I was quitting smoking and wanted something with a LOW nicotine content—something lower than what I was currently smoking. He pointed me to the Myle system. I asked repeatedly if a puff of this would be less nicotine than a puff of a cigarette. He insisted that it was WAY less. I purchased that system and have been smoking it the last day or so. But then when I went to research I am finding that 5% nicotine content in a .9ml cartridge (which I THINK is about 50mg of nicotine per cartridge? but I might be wrong?) is WAY more nicotine than what I had been smoking with cigarettes -- online it says 50mg is recomended for people who smoke TWO PACKS PER DAY.

Have I been duped? Should I get rid of the Myle system? am I essentially smoking 2 packs per day right now? (have probably smoked about half a cartridge in the past day and a half?)

I really would appreciate some advice. I'm pretty upset but I actually really liked this system so I am hoping someone will tell me that it's an equivelent amount of nictotine to a few cigs a day?

Thanks!!!

Hi and welcome,
Nicotine= fairly harmless and potentially NOT addictive.
Smoke= very dangerous.
As long as you are NOT smoking cigarettes...You win.

Cheers
I

 

[rob33]

Do what ever it takes to make the swap. Then it's way easier to wean off of vapor, you've not got a ton of additives to deal with as are in analogs.

 

[Renae222]

@Renae222, the common way to express nicotine content is milligrams per milliliter (mg/ml). 24mg/ml juice is typically the way that nicotine content in ecig juice is expressed.

24mg/ml juice is a high nic vape that many use to get off the cigarettes. It's what got me off the smokes easily. Some go all the way up to 36mg/ml to find their sweet spot for stopping the cigarette cravings.

Here's an article from Rolygate (ECF forum administrator) that explains it all.
Tobacco cigarette vs e-cigarette nicotine equivalency

ok but this product only comes in 50mg/ml pods so that is REALLY high right?

 

[DaveP]

ok but this product only comes in 50mg/ml pods so that is REALLY high right?

Whatever is good for you is the right strength. i haven't used pods, just standard atomizers. 24mg in an RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer) was what kept me off the cigs, but I started off with 510 cigalikes and an eGo and that allowed me to taper down to just a few a day.

 

[Renae222]

Whatever is good for you is the right strength. i haven't used pods, just standard atomizers. 24mg in an RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer) was what kept me off the cigs, but I started off with 510 cigalikes and an eGo and that allowed me to taper down to just a few a day.

My concern is that I was already down to 2-3 cigs per day. Now I'm worried that all my hard word to reduce my addiction is thrown out the window? People on here are saying nicotine isn't addictive but I'm pretty sure it is...

 

[Renae222]

Thanks for all the replies, guys! I appreciate it.

I think for me, I'm not really that worried about going back to smoking. In the past, I quit for 6 years without a slip-up. I only started smoking again this year because it was an insanely stressful year but as I said, I've been slowly weaning myself down to only a couple cigs per day. So I don't think I'm at a high risk to buy another pack of cigs as long as I have a vape.

I think I am freaked out by the idea that I am suddenly jumping up to getting the equivalent of 20 cigs per day in nicotine which I worry will make me way more addicted than I was.

I did the math and it seems like 9-10 puffs of this 50mg/ml vape pod is equal to one cigarette. Does that math seem right? So one question I have is: if I want to keep the pen at least for the time being but stick to the amount of nicotine I was getting before should aim to take only 20 - 30 puffs of it per day?

Thanks again!

 

[Letitia]

ok but this product only comes in 50mg/ml pods so that is REALLY high right?

It would be really high in a more powerful device, not too high for that particular device. Take to heart the posts that have already explained this to you. If you are that uncomfortable with the # then buy something else.

 

[DaveP]

My concern is that I was already down to 2-3 cigs per day. Now I'm worried that all my hard word to reduce my addiction is thrown out the window? People on here are saying nicotine isn't addictive but I'm pretty sure it is...

Find the minimum nic level that satisfies your need for nic. Experiment. Nic isn't a carcinogen. Many of the 599 chemicals researchers have isolated in tobacco cigarettes are carcinogenic. Vape juice is nothing compared to what you ingest from inhaling tobacco smoke. If high nic is what it takes, vape it. Nic isn't a bad thing.

Once you get balanced out from quitting smoking, then you'll find the nic level that satisfies. Until that happens, smoke here and there if you have to. Once you reduce your smoking you will enjoy the vape even more (your taste buds come alive again).

BTW, we don't measure nic levels in % form. Milligrams per milliliter is the accepted term. I quit using 24mg/ml juice. These days I'm at 6mg level and I spent a year or more at 3mg strength before raising it a bit. I tried 0 nic, but that was boring for me. Whatever nic level you need to stop thinking about smoking is where you should be.

 

[Izan]

Thanks for all the replies, guys! I appreciate it.

I think for me, I'm not really that worried about going back to smoking. In the past, I quit for 6 years without a slip-up. I only started smoking again this year because it was an insanely stressful year but as I said, I've been slowly weaning myself down to only a couple cigs per day. So I don't think I'm at a high risk to buy another pack of cigs as long as I have a vape.

I think I am freaked out by the idea that I am suddenly jumping up to getting the equivalent of 20 cigs per day in nicotine which I worry will make me way more addicted than I was.

I did the math and it seems like 9-10 puffs of this 50mg/ml vape pod is equal to one cigarette. Does that math seem right? So one question I have is: if I want to keep the pen at least for the time being but stick to the amount of nicotine I was getting before should aim to take only 20 - 30 puffs of it per day?

Thanks again!

Do what ever it takes to avoid combustion cigarettes.
There are NO rules.

Cheers
I

 

[BrotherBob]

Does that math seem right?

Welcome and glad you joined. The information below may help you decide.
Might like to read:
The Sweet Spot: How Much Nicotine do You Need/Want in Your Vape?
Since MYLE is a non refillable pod system, I would look at the refillable Suorin iShare Single Portable Kit (refillable pod cartridge) below:
Suorin iShare SINGLE Portable Pod Kit | Vape System