Body breaking out in hives from vaping.

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b00gym4n

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I've been itching all over my body for sometime now. Put all types of creams and treatments. At first I thought it was my blanket so I washed it, I thought it was because it was my a/c, but it wasn't. Finally figured out it was because of vaping!

I did some research and found it was most likely from the PG in my juices and that I was getting an allergic reaction. People are testifying that they've had the same exact symptoms that I've described. Has anyone else experienced this as well? And what did you do to fix it? I heard vaping all VG can have the same effect.
 
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You can react to vg, but it will be unlikely. I haven't had problems, but I've read that people use pg400, pharmaceutical quality polyethylene glycol. It offers a middle ground between VG and PG. Look into that..and I'd advise putting dabs of bases and flavors on your skin to see if you'll react to them. You could be reacting to what the molecule is broken into, but you can at least know if it will irritate your system directly by a small skin reaction.
 

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You can react to vg, but it will be unlikely. I haven't had problems, but I've read that people use pg400, pharmaceutical quality polyethylene glycol. It offers a middle ground between VG and PG. Look into that..and I'd advise putting dabs of bases and flavors on your skin to see if you'll react to them. You could be reacting to what the molecule is broken into, but you can at least know if it will irritate your system directly by a small skin reaction.

I'll definitely look into that. I don't want to switch to 100% vg because that stuff will make you all oily from it sweating out of your skin. I'm seriously about to just go cold turkey. This is too much. None of this stuff is as safe as we think it is.
 

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Second on the skin test. Lightly scratch the surface (do not draw blood) and dab some of each ingredient on it. Just my two cents.

That doesn't prove a thing. Try doing that "test" with someone who is allergic to strawberries - when they actually eat them. The scratch tests performed by an Allergist are using purified - if you will - titration of allergens in known concentrations to gauge allergic reaction. It isn't a scratch and sniff methodology.
 

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I'll try it out. After doing hours of research I believe it's PG causing the problems. I'm going to try 20pg/80vg and see what happens. If it continues, I'm going to try 100% vg. If it still continues, I'll try antihistamines. If i have to take anti histamines every day, I'm done vaping.

Whoa.

First, do you have other existing allergies? Do you see an Allergist? Taking daily antihistamines is a non-issue. Especially if you may have other reasons (allergies) that you aren't even all that aware of. I have an allergic reaction to one of my freakin' cardiac medications. You know what the symptoms are? - hives and itching. The solution isn't to stop taking the cardiac medication. The solution is to take loratadine religiously. But before you write off any potential solutions you need to figure out what you are dealing with.

You have three potential sources of allergic reaction here: PG, VG (unlikely), or your flavorings or sweeteners. People here tend to fall into two very broad classes when it comes to PG allergic reaction: People like me who can tolerate PG used as a carrier in flavorings - up to about 20% of the total amount of a liquid. Or the severely allergic who have extreme reaction to any PG in a liquid. Period.

If you're actually breaking out in hives don't mess with this. Start with 100 VG at your regular nic level, unflavored, and see how that goes. If you have no reaction within 48 hours (admittedly arbitrary figure) then start introducing things back into the mix. Start adding PG only - no flavorings - to see if PG itself begins to trigger reactions again and at what level. No reactions? Then you have to start systematically looking at your flavorings.

There is no mystery to PG allergy. It's been known in the medical community since long before vaping came around. Mind you, it's still the exception - but that doesn't mean it's any less valid either. Ask an Allergist about it and see how familiar they are with the problem. It won't be a rare thing requiring deep research.
 

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Rickajho:10947975 said:
Second on the skin test. Lightly scratch the surface (do not draw blood) and dab some of each ingredient on it. Just my two cents.

That doesn't prove a thing. Try doing that "test" with someone who is allergic to strawberries - when they actually eat them. The scratch tests performed by an Allergist are using purified - if you will - titration of allergens in known concentrations to gauge allergic reaction. It isn't a scratch and sniff methodology.

That's why I said a doctor could find that out. Thanks for clarifying that process Rick.
 

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I had this same problem about 2 years ago. I started breaking out in hives around the time I started vaping, so I quit vaping and went back to cigs. I still suffered from hives from another couple of months. Turned out I was allergic to Bounce laundry softener.
If you've changed your laundry products lately, that might also be the source.
 

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That exact same thing happened to me. I was vaping 80PG/20VG and I broke out in terrible hives. So I switched to 50/50 and they went away. When I had my blood work done last week my doctor said I was definitely allergic to something I was exposing myself to but, she wasn't sure what and wants to send me to an allergist. I am pretty sure I know what it is.
 

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    How long ago did you start DiY? and where do you get your supplies? Did you have the hives before you started DiY?
    It's possible to be allergic to any one of the ingredients in your e-liquid. So break it down, and make your juice as simplistic as possible, and then just add one ingredient at a time until you find the one that you react to. Start with just VG thinned with a little distilled water since you suspect VG. Then add nicotine, and see what happens, Then a small amount of PG. After, and only after, you determine a base that you are comfortable with should you start messing with adding flavors.
     

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    Hmmmm.....

    Read this thread just now. My sympathies to the OP, hives suck.
    Could be allergic reaction to PG or VG or fill in your best guess here.

    Really though, seek a professionals help to verify what's going on rather than stopping with simply a self-diagnosis derived from the internet and anecdotal stories.

    Really.
     
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