Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Prime

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If you are still not getting that perfect vape and feel like your just missing the mark somehow , I would be more then happy to wick it if you sent it to me. With your coil and cotton, I could wick it, but not wet it, this way you can look and feel the exact amounts I do. I can even make sure all orings are good and if needed replace them. You would only need to pay for shipping one way. Just a thought if your not able to dialing it in 100 percent
The way it is I know I'm getting close and the flavor is good and it's working well enough to keep me from smoking. It feels like I have to hit it to hard to make the juice flow up the wick but as I also stated I'm vaping it around 14 to 16 watts so something is working right or I'd be burning cotton, no?

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If you are still not getting that perfect vape and feel like your just missing the mark somehow , I would be more then happy to wick it if you sent it to me. With your coil and cotton, I could wick it, but not wet it, this way you can look and feel the exact amounts I do. I can even make sure all orings are good and if needed replace them. You would only need to pay for shipping one way. Just a thought if your not able to dialing it in 100 percent

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I really appreciate your generosity Vapdivrr, thank you! I rewicked again last night paying closer attention to the wick lengths and placement and have it dialed in on this build (a little time will tell) The combination of wick length, thickness/placement along with opening up the juice flow to much seems to have been the problem. I'm now getting a nice saturated vape at about 16 watts with a good draw and just the right amount of crackling, life is good. I may take you up if things go South. Thanks again for your help!
 

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    Seems to be a kayfun prime shortage, still using my 1st prime since it came out, other tanks get replaced, but never the prime, couldn’t find a prime stateside, so picked up a couple of Kayfun V5’s in classifieds, but still prefer the prime, hopefully US vendors get some in stock, as intend to only use primes in the near future :)
     

    vapdivrr

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    Awesome!! It really isn't the easiest to wick imo, definitely a little touchy for sure...
    I really appreciate your generosity Vapdivrr, thank you! I rewicked again last night paying closer attention to the wick lengths and placement and have it dialed in on this build (a little time will tell) The combination of wick length, thickness/placement along with opening up the juice flow to much seems to have been the problem. I'm now getting a nice saturated vape at about 16 watts with a good draw and just the right amount of crackling, life is good. I may take you up if things go South. Thanks again for your help!

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    Andy N

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    Rewicked it again this morning and getting on nicely (that's two in a row), thanks for the help guys! Went through a ton of cotton figuring this thing out but it's been worth the time and effort.
    Nails, Creme de Vape has primes in stock, that's where I bought mine. It took five days from order to delivery. I've made several purchases from them previously and wouldn't hesitate to send them my business again.
     

    MKBarca

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    Exactly one year to the day since my Prime was delivered to the door. Said it straight away that it was a quality tank and even now it has become my favourite tank I’ve used to date. I believe this one will stand the test of time just like the Lite Plus has done.
     

    access0denied

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    Exactly one year to the day since my Prime was delivered to the door. Said it straight away that it was a quality tank and even now it has become my favourite tank I’ve used to date. I believe this one will stand the test of time just like the Lite Plus has done.

    Yup, I agree. It's a solid tank, and worth every penny. I've tried a few other cheaper tanks over the past year. After a day, I put those cheap ones to the side, and screw the Prime back on.
     

    RadiusNick

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    have you seen this:
    air-nozzle-kit-per-kayfun-prime.jpg

    Kayfun Prime Air Nozzle Kit - Neu bei uns
    here's the description:
    The Air Nozzle Kit for Kayfun Prime replaces the Positive Block and allows you to modify the airflow before coil, increasing the draw resistance slightly. Thus, the aromatic yield of Kayfun Prime can be changed.
    The kit contains:
    1x positive block with a 2 mm hole
    1x positive block with 5 cross holes (1.2 mm center hole and 0.8 mm perimeter holes)

    what do you think?
    i was looking for a way to restrict a bit the airflow and according to them that's what they're supposed to do,
    but i don't see how;isn't the Prime 'stock Positive Block' also 2mm?
    it seem they only replaced the "air outlet distributor"with a single hole,which may indeed affect/"change the aromatic yield of the kayfun"(by mainly blowing on the center of the coil so a more defined/intense vape?)
    the other Positive Block just seem to be way more airy,the "perimeter holes"don't seem to sit exactly above the air hole but still,it's a 4.4mm air outlet.


    the coil is always the same , so there shouldn't be any variables but the wicking is kind of hard to reproduce exactly the same each and every time. even after 7 years of rebuilding, there are times I don't get it right...maybe 1 out of every 5 rewicks, I can notice that I did something not to perfection, but I definitely know what I did wrong just by the slight symptoms , so I rewick it again...imo the kayfuns are slightly picky with wicking and if not done exactly right, the vape does suffer....i have other rta's that I can slap in a wick and not worry because it doesn't matter but the km3 and prime need pretty exact wicking amounts....
    glad i saw this;
    I've been vaping mainly on the KFL+ for around 2 years and sometimes i managed to nail a great build in all aspects,but then in the next wicking, an all other experience.
    at first i thought i did something wrong so i went on re-wicking again and again to the (crazy) point of doing it maybe 7 times an evening.(and also trying different coils configurations).
    at some point i even thought i was handicapped in some way not being able after 2 years to get it as i like,until a few months ago i just gave up and whatever i get after re-wicking,if it vapes good enough without dry hits i just leave it as is.
    i also have the Prime and i find it way less picky and even very easy to use,the only thing is i always need to remind myself not to put to much cotton in there.
     
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    Leech

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    have you seen this:
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    Kayfun Prime Air Nozzle Kit - Neu bei uns
    here's the description:
    The Air Nozzle Kit for Kayfun Prime replaces the Positive Block and allows you to modify the airflow before coil, increasing the draw resistance slightly. Thus, the aromatic yield of Kayfun Prime can be changed.
    The kit contains:
    1x positive block with a 2 mm hole
    1x positive block with 5 cross holes (1.2 mm center hole and 0.8 mm perimeter holes)

    what do you think?
    i was looking for a way to restrict a bit the airflow and according to them that's what they're supposed to do,
    but i don't see how;isn't the Prime 'stock Positive Block' also 2mm?
    it seem they only replaced the "air outlet distributor"with a single hole,which may indeed affect/"change the aromatic yield of the kayfun"(by mainly blowing on the center of the coil so a more defined/intense vape?)
    the other Positive Block just seem to be way more airy,the "perimeter holes"don't seem to sit exactly above the air hole but still,it's a 4.4mm air outlet.



    glad i saw this;
    I've been vaping mainly on the KFL+ for around 2 years and sometimes i managed to nail a great build in all aspects,but then in the next wicking, an all other experience.
    at first i thought i did something wrong so i went on re-wicking again and again to the (crazy) point of doing it maybe 7 times an evening.(and also trying different coils configurations).
    at some point i even thought i was handicapped in some way not being able after 2 years to get it as i like,until a few months ago i just gave up and whatever i get after re-wicking,if it vapes good enough without dry hits i just leave it as is.
    i also have the Prime and i find it way less picky and even very easy to use,the only thing is i always need to remind myself not to put to much cotton in there.
    Yeap, I find that with the Prime, I'm using 1/4 to 1/2 the amount of cotton I need in a KLF+, even if I'm using the same ID coil.

    My default is a contact coil, 1.8mm ID, 8 wraps 28G coming out at about 1.13ohms.
    Hitting it at about 10W with airflow at 4 dots.

    With the Prime, my experience is the length of the wick is more important than the width.

    To ensure even wicking each time, I cut a standard cotton pad (just regular drugstore cotton pad with top and bottom "skin" layer removed), and then into 8 even strips by half-ing it each time.

    Hopefully this would help you with your wicking!

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    vapdivrr

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    have you seen this:
    View attachment 771251
    Kayfun Prime Air Nozzle Kit - Neu bei uns
    here's the description:
    The Air Nozzle Kit for Kayfun Prime replaces the Positive Block and allows you to modify the airflow before coil, increasing the draw resistance slightly. Thus, the aromatic yield of Kayfun Prime can be changed.
    The kit contains:
    1x positive block with a 2 mm hole
    1x positive block with 5 cross holes (1.2 mm center hole and 0.8 mm perimeter holes)

    what do you think?
    i was looking for a way to restrict a bit the airflow and according to them that's what they're supposed to do,
    but i don't see how;isn't the Prime 'stock Positive Block' also 2mm?
    it seem they only replaced the "air outlet distributor"with a single hole,which may indeed affect/"change the aromatic yield of the kayfun"(by mainly blowing on the center of the coil so a more defined/intense vape?)
    the other Positive Block just seem to be way more airy,the "perimeter holes"don't seem to sit exactly above the air hole but still,it's a 4.4mm air outlet.



    glad i saw this;
    I've been vaping mainly on the KFL+ for around 2 years and sometimes i managed to nail a great build in all aspects,but then in the next wicking, an all other experience.
    at first i thought i did something wrong so i went on re-wicking again and again to the (crazy) point of doing it maybe 7 times an evening.(and also trying different coils configurations).
    at some point i even thought i was handicapped in some way not being able after 2 years to get it as i like,until a few months ago i just gave up and whatever i get after re-wicking,if it vapes good enough without dry hits i just leave it as is.
    i also have the Prime and i find it way less picky and even very easy to use,the only thing is i always need to remind myself not to put to much cotton in there.

    what do you think?
    i was looking for a way to restrict a bit the airflow and according to them that's what they're supposed to do,
    but i don't see how;isn't the Prime 'stock Positive Block' also 2mm?
    it seem they only replaced the "air outlet distributor"with a single hole,which may indeed affect/"change the aromatic yield of the kayfun"(by mainly blowing on the center of the coil so a more defined/intense vape?)
    the other Positive Block just seem to be way more airy,the "perimeter holes"don't seem to sit exactly above the air hole but still,it's a 4.4mm air outlet.


    .
    I can kind of see the one with multiple holes creating more resistance then the stock although , like you said, they add up to over 4mm. I think because it's simply not one big hole, there will be a difference in resistance and perhaps what you might be looking for...as for the single hole block, yes it looks the same size as stock and the only difference is above it won't be elongated, so I doubt there will be any difference in resistance, but there can be a difference in flavor...I always slightly prefered the flavor on the km3 compared to the prime and although it could be in my head or many other variables, maybe it's because of a solid hole directed to the center rather then elongated across the coil? Not really sure tbh, but I would like to try these myself. Thanks



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    I can kind of see the one with multiple holes creating more resistance then the stock
    i got lost for a second,but indeed that would just be the initial 2mm divided by those multiple holes,
    so it may create some kind of resistance and supposedly affect the taste.
     

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    Mmm looks like their made to enhance organic tobacco flavors? Its Amazing how these can be engineered for something so specific

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    Yeah, makes me wonder how it changes other flavors. I"m guessing i'll order it when I can find it in stock somewhere here in the states. Can't really find any reviews on it either.
     

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    Well after waiting over a month for a US vendor to get prime’s in stock, I gave up and ordered 2 more primes with extension kits from Creme de Vape, don’t know why US vendors having problem getting stock, but cheaper at Creme anyway.
    Its Svoemesto. Adam at HHV has tried reordering stock forever and keeps getting blown off.
     

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    I'm very disappointed with my prime, every combination of wicking I try after a day I have problems. And the main problem is always the airflow come restricted which assume is because juice threw it, I don't know what to do. 50/50 pg-vg, 28ga with 1.29 ohm resistance at 14 watts, with cb prime for wicking material.
     

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