Anyone have a good watermelon menthol recipe?

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ceeceeisme

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I have a clone recipe I am still working on for Hometown Hero's "Angel's Breath" which is described as "watermelon freeze with berries". I love this flavor but I haven't nailed it completely down yet.

HH Angel's Breath Clone (Work in Progress)
Forrest Mix (FA) 2%
Koolada (TFA) 1%
Sweet Strawberry (CAP) 2%
Sweetener (TFA) 2%
Watermelon (TFA) 9%

So I made the recipe above on Dec. 2nd but I don't have it completely to my liking yet.

I think Hometown Hero is using TFA watermelon - I still have a bottle of Angel's Breath here and I'm almost sure that's the watermelon I smell in it (but then I don't have every single kind of watermelon here at my disposal to compare it with).

So this recipe is only okay, not great. It needs more watermelon, which I have both Lorann's and Capella's here but have not had any more time to experiment with. You can always start with this as a template and add and adjust flavors as you see fit.

The next time I get a chance to make this I am going to add in some Caps Sweet Watermelon at about 3% and up the sweetener to about 3% to see if I can get a bit closer.

It would be nice if someone else has a good recipe they can share!
 

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I find that most watermelon flavors are generally weak in flavor. So I tend to go heavy on it and usually use 2 different manufacturers products.

I have ended up with a watermelon frost type of flavor using this
15% Cap watermelon or split with another of the same type ie. tfa or fw
3 % cherry
2 % sweet rasp
Koolada to taste, usually around .05%

I have also (at times) put a little Loran's tart and sour in there very lightly.

It does take a while to steep maybe 2 weeks or so.
You can also put cotton candy or a sweetner in at around 1 %.

Play with it to get it right for your taste.
Next time I make it, I think I will substitute pomegranate or blueberry for the cherry.

Let us know.

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Ever consider adding a little honeydew to the watermelon? TFA honeydew is uber powerful and can overpower almost anything else, so it should be added by the drop(S).

I'm sitting here sniffing the bottle that contains my last few ml's of Angel's Breath and that could indeed be what is missing from my recipe.... great suggestion! I don't currently have any TFA Honeydew in my arsenal but what I do have is another flavor order just about ready to go .... guess I'll be adding this to it :)
 

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The raspberry, and Strawberry help lift the weak taste in watermelons too, Others you could try that may help bring out the melon more are, INW cactus, Cap cucumber, or other melons like cantalope, If mixing watermelon I usually like to use a combo of 2 or 3 depending if I want to lean towards of real or candy type.
 

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There are 2 different TFA honeydew's the original one is much stronger, and cost more, I have not tried honeydew 2 yet bet have heard it is not as potent as the first version that is quite strong as in 2 drops per 10ml. strong

Yikes! Thanks for the warning!!! Looks like my DIY supplier has the original one only and it is indeed slightly more expensive than most of the other TFA flavors.
 

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The raspberry, and Strawberry help lift the weak taste in watermelons too, Others you could try that may help bring out the melon more are, INW cactus, Cap cucumber, or other melons like cantalope, If mixing watermelon I usually like to use a combo of 2 or 3 depending if I want to lean towards of real or candy type.

So to clarify, the raspberry and strawberry make it more candy like?


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So to clarify, the raspberry and strawberry make it more candy like?
Because the Watermelon is such a light flavor; the addition of a second fruit, like those already suggested, is to "fill out" or "bring forward" the watermelon. The magic is to find the right balance. a little too much and it turns into more of a fruit medley. Too much and it will become completely lost in the more dominant fruit.

I Have had some success "amplifying" the watermelon with both Dragon Fruit (pick you mfg.), and Pear (same) being used at 1% or less. Raspberry and Strawberry have worked but both have such a recognizable odor that I can find them distracting to the watermelon frequently. I haven't tried any of the melons (Honeydew, Cantaloupe) yet. That sounds like it might have promise. A small amount of saline might lend a hand here too. And, if that is not enough, I have also read recently about Kiwi (as much as 5%) working.

I have also been on a "perfect" watermelon quest for the last couple of years. This past summer, I really tried to pay attention to the fresh watermelons that I bought and ate, looking for any signs of what might be missing from my DIY attempts. The effort provided little help.

To me: (Please keep in mind that I am 54 years old with very abused taste buds so your experience may be totally different.) Much of what I like about watermelon are the textural aspects of it; the cold, crisp, grainy, juiciness of it. Take this away and there really isn't a lot of actual flavor remaining in it .

I found this out when I compared the fruit itself to the juice remaining from the same piece of fruit. With all that cold, crispy, grainy goodness absent, I was left with a faint, kind of sweet nondescript watermelon taste. It was not even half as enjoyable as eating the fruit from which it had just come.

I shared all that only to say that my expectations have kind of changed. I am still on my quest of finding that perfect watermelon; but I think I have scratched "bold" from the profile I have in mind. I think the answer (my answer at least) is going to be found in a combination of 2 or more different Watermelons and at least one supporting/accent fruit in the background.

As I say; the quest continues. I am eagerly following this thread to see what others have come up with.
 

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Because the Watermelon is such a light flavor; the addition of a second fruit, like those already suggested, is to "fill out" or "bring forward" the watermelon. The magic is to find the right balance. a little too much and it turns into more of a fruit medley. Too much and it will become completely lost in the more dominant fruit.

I Have had some success "amplifying" the watermelon with both Dragon Fruit (pick you mfg.), and Pear (same) being used at 1% or less. Raspberry and Strawberry have worked but both have such a recognizable odor that I can find them distracting to the watermelon frequently. I haven't tried any of the melons (Honeydew, Cantaloupe) yet. That sounds like it might have promise. A small amount of saline might lend a hand here too. And, if that is not enough, I have also read recently about Kiwi (as much as 5%) working.

I have also been on a "perfect" watermelon quest for the last couple of years. This past summer, I really tried to pay attention to the fresh watermelons that I bought and ate, looking for any signs of what might be missing from my DIY attempts. The effort provided little help.

To me: (Please keep in mind that I am 54 years old with very abused taste buds so your experience may be totally different.) Much of what I like about watermelon are the textural aspects of it; the cold, crisp, grainy, juiciness of it. Take this away and there really isn't a lot of actual flavor remaining in it .

I found this out when I compared the fruit itself to the juice remaining from the same piece of fruit. With all that cold, crispy, grainy goodness absent, I was left with a faint, kind of sweet nondescript watermelon taste. It was not even half as enjoyable as eating the fruit from which it had just come.

I shared all that only to say that my expectations have kind of changed. I am still on my quest of finding that perfect watermelon; but I think I have scratched "bold" from the profile I have in mind. I think the answer (my answer at least) is going to be found in a combination of 2 or more different Watermelons and at least one supporting/accent fruit in the background.

As I say; the quest continues. I am eagerly following this thread to see what others have come up with.

I can't get the watermelon I used to love because apparently it was mixed by the local vape shop, which they're no longer allowed to do. Fingers crossed someone has a great recipe. All of the other watermelon flavors I have tried don't come close to that store mixed brand....very disappointing!


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If it was a shop local to you (where they mixed your preferred recipe). and they no longer intend to profit from the sale of that particular recipe, have you asked them if they would be willing to share it with you? If you have a relationship with them, tell them you will not profit from it, or even offer them whatever you feel would be a reasonable amount to "buy" it from them; they might be amiable to the idea. It wouldn't hurt to ask. Just a thought. :D
 

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I don't have a solid recipe, but I did fool around with various watermelon (CAP, TFA, FA) and menthol combos. My favorite was 5% FA Watermelon, 1% FW Menthol. I had started out with higher menthol ratios, but discovered that, were I to vape watermelon menthol regularly (I won't, just not my pref.), it's better to have a little menthol boosting a dominant watermelon than the other way round.

But there's a lot of ways you could go...Extreme Ice, peppermint, better watermelons, on and on.
 

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If it was a shop local to you (where they mixed your preferred recipe). and they no longer intend to profit from the sale of that particular recipe, have you asked them if they would be willing to share it with you? If you have a relationship with them, tell them you will not profit from it, or even offer them whatever you feel would be a reasonable amount to "buy" it from them; they might be amiable to the idea. It wouldn't hurt to ask. Just a thought. :D

I already tried that, but that was a good suggestion!


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