Adjusting nic in a pre bought juice

[herb]

the highest nic they come in is 12mg, when I vape between 18 and 24.

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Thats becoming a HUGE problem with vendors these days as is the all MAX VG only options. Apparently many vendors think that everybody vapes very low nicotine levels and high VG juices which is not the case.


In actuality there are more that still prefer 50/50 juice and up to 24 mg nicotine strengths , it's a real shame and they are losing a ton of business since i have people asking me where to get higher nic level juices and not all max VG juices all the time.

 

[vapdivrr]

Thanks buddy! I'm really glad you didn't hold a grudge based on my previous stupid post and I fully understand your issue know...

Heck no man, we are all here to help each other and sometimes people are going to misunderstand things...I love ecf and everyone here

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[vapdivrr]

Thats becoming a HUGE problem with vendors these days as is the all MAX VG only options. Apparently many vendors think that everybody vapes very low nicotine levels and high VG juices which is not the case.


In actuality there are more that still prefer 50/50 juice and up to 24 mg nicotine strengths , it's a real shame and they are losing a ton of business since i have people asking me where to get higher nic level juices and not all max VG juices all the time.

Man I'm with you there..... I get so many juice companies news letters with all these juices for sale and when I go to look at them I say "mmm this looks good let's see the nic , mmm what only 3&6 mg? Ok let me check this one, mmm what, same dam thing 3&6" I can sit there and read 10 descriptions and none are usually past 6 &9 with 5 percent maybe to 12. I email them all the time telling them I would probably be buying some of this juice if it came higher

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[Randall_flagg]

I almost wonder if delving into the higher than 100mg nic base would be the right avenue for you. You could cut down on the amount needed, while still keeping flavor. I know we can't discuss over 100mg but it might be exactly what you need.

Also, it's really good to see any issues worked out without silly name calling, I see that crap on so many other boards (Jeep related) and it gets old fast!

 

[herb]

Man I'm with you there..... I get so many juice companies news letters with all these juices for sale and when I go to look at them I say "mmm this looks good let's see the nic , mmm what only 3&6 mg? Ok let me check this one, mmm what, same dam thing 3&6" I can sit there and read 10 descriptions and none are usually past 6 &9 with 5 percent maybe to 12. I email them all the time telling them I would probably be buying some of this juice if it came higher

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About a year or so ago most all e juice companies offered 18 mg minimum with a ton offering 24 and some offered up to 36 mg maximum (Mount Baker) might still offer 36 mg , they used to .

I feel terrible for Vapors just starting out , i needed 24mg to get by when i started , i still vape 12 mg three years in and many companies offer 12 mg as their max mg .

 

[vapdivrr]

About a year or so ago most all e juice companies offered 18 mg minimum with a ton offering 24 and some offered up to 36 mg maximum (Mount Baker) might still offer 36 mg , they used to .

I feel terrible for Vapors just starting out , i needed 24mg to get by when i started , i still vape 12 mg three years in and many companies offer 12 mg as their max mg .

Agreed and what gets me, is these guys do charge a good bit for juices, with that said you would think more would be like , for instance, HHV. These guys do it right, they offer from like 3 to 36mg and in all types of pg/vg ratios and their juices are very good . I think what it is, is that these new juices coming out, that have no choices in pg/vg and just 2 or 3 different low nic levels are just a one man band maybe, where as these other companies that do offer wide ranges are more indeed like a proper little company with a small crew. If I'm right, that's what gets me, is that both charge the same prices, so the little guy is making alot more money and doesn't care for higher nic vapors (greedy buggers)

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[vapdivrr]

I almost wonder if delving into the higher than 100mg nic base would be the right avenue for you. You could cut down on the amount needed, while still keeping flavor. I know we can't discuss over 100mg but it might be exactly what you need.

Also, it's really good to see any issues worked out without silly name calling, I see that crap on so many other boards (Jeep related) and it gets old fast!

You know that crossed my mind tbh but didn't think it was possible for anyone other then professionals in that field but maybe I was wrong. Yes that would be awesome in that regard...I also agree with your last remark, it's a pity really and don't understand it

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[herb]

Agreed and what gets me, is these guys do charge a good bit for juices, with that said you would think more would be like , for instance, HHV. These guys do it right, they offer from like 3 to 36mg and in all types of pg/vg ratios and their juices are very good . I think what it is, is that these new juices coming out, that have no choices in pg/vg and just 2 or 3 different low nic levels are just a one man band maybe, where as these other companies that do offer wide ranges are more indeed like a proper little company with a small crew. If I'm right, that's what gets me, is that both charge the same prices, so the little guy is making alot more money and doesn't care for higher nic vapors (greedy buggers)

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Man, i rarely hear HHV talked about anymore , they are , without question, one of the most popular juice company's ever and have won a ton of ECF's "best" contests over the years.

 

[vapdivrr]

Man, i rarely hear HHV talked about anymore , they are , without question, one of the most popular juice company's ever and have won a ton of ECF's "best" contests over the years.

I used to get juice from them alot a few years ago , then I stopped because I just started ordering from other vendors but lately I'm back with them and forgot just how good they are

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[JustWondering1]

Man I'm with you there..... I get so many juice companies news letters with all these juices for sale and when I go to look at them I say "mmm this looks good let's see the nic , mmm what only 3&6 mg? Ok let me check this one, mmm what, same dam thing 3&6" I can sit there and read 10 descriptions and none are usually past 6 &9 with 5 percent maybe to 12. I email them all the time telling them I would probably be buying some of this juice if it came higher

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I have the same experience! It's such a bummer! I vape 18 mg. and it's hard to find it these days. I have been wanting to try Sicboy and couldn't find it with 18 mg. nic until I found Skyline Vapor. They have a pretty good selection of the higher nic premium juices. The prices aren't the best, but I justify that cost pretty easily because my tootle puffer vape style doesn't guzzle juice and most of the juices I buy are in the $15 - $17 range.

 

[vapdivrr]

I have the same experience! It's such a bummer! I vape 18 mg. and it's hard to find it these days. I have been wanting to try Sicboy and couldn't find it with 18 mg. nic until I found Skyline Vapor. They have a pretty good selection of the higher nic premium juices. The prices aren't the best, but I justify that cost pretty easily because my tootle puffer vape style doesn't guzzle juice and most of the juices I buy are in the $15 - $17 range.

I have bought from them before , but not lately. I haven't thought about that maybe the makers of the juice making it in higher nic levels but not all vendors carry it in those levels. I will check it out, thanks

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[JustWondering1]

I have bought from them before , but not lately. I haven't thought about that maybe the makers of the juice making it in higher nic levels but not all vendors carry it in those levels. I will check it out, thanks

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I think you are right there. I've been looking for a few different premium juices with higher nic. contents and I've found that different vendors carry different nic contents for juices. It gets very confusing. I was so excited that Vapor Shark carried the higher nic versions of The Originals, but before I could order them, they stopped carrying them. Now the highest nic they carry in The Originals is 12 mg. I just called Vapor Shark to find out what the deal is. They said they will no longer carry anything above 12 mg. I asked him if he would consider special ordering them for me and said I'll be happy to pay a premium. The guy didn't outright refuse me, but he made it pretty clear to me that he doesn't want to fool with it.

I wish there were more vendors like Skyline who would help us higher nic vapers out. I wouldn't mind paying a premium. This is very disappointing to me.

 

[vapdivrr]

I think you are right there. I've been looking for a few different premium juices with higher nic. contents and I've found that different vendors carry different nic contents for juices. It gets very confusing. I was so excited that Vapor Shark carried the higher nic versions of The Originals, but before I could order them, they stopped carrying them. Now the highest nic they carry in The Originals is 12 mg. I just called Vapor Shark to find out what the deal is. They said they will no longer carry anything above 12 mg. I asked him if he would consider special ordering them for me and said I'll be happy to pay a premium. The guy didn't outright refuse me, but he made it pretty clear to me that he doesn't want to fool with it.

I wish there were more vendors like Skyline who would help us higher nic vapers out. I wouldn't mind paying a premium. This is very disappointing to me.

This all might be a move for a future law. I know in Europe , next year, that if it passes, no flavored juices can be sold over like 6mg. Maybe these companies know more then us and are getting us ready. I'm just hoping that law doesn't come here but I'm slowly getting into diy just the same

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[JustWondering1]

This all might be a move for a future law. I know in Europe , next year, that if it passes, no flavored juices can be sold over like 6mg. Maybe these companies know more then us and are getting us ready. I'm just hoping that law doesn't come here but I'm slowly getting into diy just the same

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I was so upset by my conversation with Vapor Shark that I called Skyline Vapor. The customer service person told me they carry a lot of juice lines with 18 mg. nicotine, but only two with 24 mg. She said they plan to continue carrying the 18, but she said she is afraid government regulations may limit the higher nic juices altogether at some point because the higher nic juices are more toxic if ingested. What a racket big tobacco has going for themselves!! I am not happy about this B.S.

 

[SteveS45]

Thanks for starting this thread as my DIY Kit is in transit as I type this and was thinking about buying a bottle of 2.4% and diluting it to hold me over while I get to DIY'ing. I would be going in the opposite direct in terms of strength but from reading this that would be throwing away money since I would try turning 2.4% into 1.2% using the base. Time to break out the flux capacitor to jump ahead to fully steeped!

 

[vapdivrr]

I was so upset by my conversation with Vapor Shark that I called Skyline Vapor. The customer service person told me they carry a lot of juice lines with 18 mg. nicotine, but only two with 24 mg. She said they plan to continue carrying the 18, but she said she is afraid government regulations may limit the higher nic juices altogether at some point because the higher nic juices are more toxic if ingested. What a racket big tobacco has going for themselves!! I am not happy about this B.S.

Yep I think this is what's going on unfortunately. Now what I had thought, at least with the regulations proposed in Europe is only flavored juiced will be held to low nic levels but tobaccos maybe not. I had thought it was because minors would be attracted to delicious sounding juices not tobaccos but the ingested thing sound plausible as well. Yes big tobacco and pharmaceutical companies control it and are likely to have it their way

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[JustWondering1]

Yep I think this is what's going on unfortunately. Now what I had thought, at least with the regulations proposed in Europe is only flavored juiced will be held to low nic levels but tobaccos maybe not. I had thought it was because minors would be attracted to delicious sounding juices not tobaccos but the ingested thing sound plausible as well. Yes big tobacco and pharmaceutical companies control it and are likely to have it their way

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Interesting!! I guess we will just have to see what happens. Sounds like I should think about either DIY, Sub-ohm or both! Nothing wrong with either approach, just not something I want to have to fool with. There was so much to learn when I first started vaping, and now I'm at a place where I am very comfy with my ISticks and Nautilus Minis. Getting my nic fix is easy again, and I like it that way!