I have heard that juice bottles should be stored at room temperature. I never thought the result of not doing so would be as bad as pissing out of my ... for 5 days though. Awful. My bottle fell out of my tool belt at work and sat in the sun for 3 hours. By the time noticed it had changed drastically. made me sick as a dog. Last Wednesday through Sunday I was on the toilet non stop. I swear I went through 5 rolls of toilet paper. Not only that, I felt nauseous and threw up a few times too. I know that it was this juice because I quit using it for a day and all of my symptoms went away. I was able to work for that day and everything was great then I tried the tainted carto again the next day and the symptoms came right back. I had already thrown out the juice by then but the cartomizer was tainted so I immediately tossed it out. I only filled the carto once. I tried it and it didn't taste right so I switched to a different juice but there was still enough in the carto to ruin my week. Lol. I thought I had the flu that's going around. Nope! Keep your bottles cool folks! Don't leave them in your car or worse.... in direct sunlight! LOL.
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Direct sunlight, as well as being close to bright indoor lighting (no matter the time of year) will, of course, cause this to happen faster, but the same will happen if you don't keep you juice in a cool, dark place summer, winter - all year.
I keep mine in the warm part of the refrigerator during the summer and actually drip from larger bottles into the very small sample bottles i have kept and cleaned so I only go out with the amount I need and not risk ruining a whole bottle in the summer heat. What happens in heat and faster in sunlight, is that much of the PG/VG can evaporate away and leave you with nicotine that is not diluted as much as it had been before. Since your symptoms are those of someone with nicotine poisoning it sounds like that day in the sun cause the juice to end up very strengthened. 24 mg after a few hours in the sun can be anywhere from 30-40 mg depending on how much evaporates and if you are not used to that strength and vape it as much as you do your usual, low strength, you can end up being pretty sick.
VG can go bad, but its usually a risk of that happening when you buy large amounts of ml bottles to make your own and keep it on the self too long and then have to deal with mold.
This is a good warning for everyone, especially for those living in parts of the world that have very long, hot, dry summers but applies to anyone who subjects their juice to warm temps for a while. If you leave a bottle in the heat for what you think might be too long and worry you now have strengthened the juice, check the bottle carefully and look for sighs of evaporation, such as 'sweating' on the inside of the bottle. Don't take a chance once you see a lot of water evaporated out of the juice (shaking it and getting the water drops mixed back in will not 'save' it as many say it will as what evaporates is the water mixed in with the nicotine itself and you would need to reprocess the nicotine to get the water mixed back in, shaking it to 'reabsorb' the water just mixes water into the glycerin used in the juice).
If this happens, especially with the higher level nicotine juice its probably not worth keeping it around - toss it and buy fresh. It may be less of a risk if you are using a low mg of nicotine and the bottle only shows a bit of sweat - most likely you have only just strengthened it to around the next level - or that's the rule of thumb. It may taste differently to you after it has evaporated in a bottle - the flavor may taste a bit diluted.
So, when going out, make it a practice to use smaller bottles or prefill clearos/carto tanks with what you need. As I mentioned before, using cleaned and well dried empty sample bottles (or even large cleaned and dried bottles when you have used up the e-liquid) make it easy to just take what you know you will vape along with you and not you entire supply. Keep what you carry away from your body (unless you are in freezing weather in which you want to keep it from freezing) and in a dark place. Juice in dark bottles will also lessen the effects or bright indoor light. Pocketbooks/purses'/backpacks/briefcases/luggage are all decent places while a clothing pocket can get way too warm even if it shades your juice.
This is not all said to convince anyone vaping is 'dangerous' but like anything whether its tonight's dinner, or medication or other things you use internally, safe handling is the best practice. People tend to very careful with hardware to make sure its in perfect working order, or properly cleaned or tested well when its rebuilt and so on but very often neglect to correctly handling their juices and either ignore or do not know the correct handling of juice.
I keep mine in the warm part of the refrigerator during the summer and actually drip from larger bottles into the very small sample bottles i have kept and cleaned so I only go out with the amount I need and not risk ruining a whole bottle in the summer heat. What happens in heat and faster in sunlight, is that much of the PG/VG can evaporate away and leave you with nicotine that is not diluted as much as it had been before. Since your symptoms are those of someone with nicotine poisoning it sounds like that day in the sun cause the juice to end up very strengthened. 24 mg after a few hours in the sun can be anywhere from 30-40 mg depending on how much evaporates and if you are not used to that strength and vape it as much as you do your usual, low strength, you can end up being pretty sick.
VG can go bad, but its usually a risk of that happening when you buy large amounts of ml bottles to make your own and keep it on the self too long and then have to deal with mold.
This is a good warning for everyone, especially for those living in parts of the world that have very long, hot, dry summers but applies to anyone who subjects their juice to warm temps for a while. If you leave a bottle in the heat for what you think might be too long and worry you now have strengthened the juice, check the bottle carefully and look for sighs of evaporation, such as 'sweating' on the inside of the bottle. Don't take a chance once you see a lot of water evaporated out of the juice (shaking it and getting the water drops mixed back in will not 'save' it as many say it will as what evaporates is the water mixed in with the nicotine itself and you would need to reprocess the nicotine to get the water mixed back in, shaking it to 'reabsorb' the water just mixes water into the glycerin used in the juice).
If this happens, especially with the higher level nicotine juice its probably not worth keeping it around - toss it and buy fresh. It may be less of a risk if you are using a low mg of nicotine and the bottle only shows a bit of sweat - most likely you have only just strengthened it to around the next level - or that's the rule of thumb. It may taste differently to you after it has evaporated in a bottle - the flavor may taste a bit diluted.
So, when going out, make it a practice to use smaller bottles or prefill clearos/carto tanks with what you need. As I mentioned before, using cleaned and well dried empty sample bottles (or even large cleaned and dried bottles when you have used up the e-liquid) make it easy to just take what you know you will vape along with you and not you entire supply. Keep what you carry away from your body (unless you are in freezing weather in which you want to keep it from freezing) and in a dark place. Juice in dark bottles will also lessen the effects or bright indoor light. Pocketbooks/purses'/backpacks/briefcases/luggage are all decent places while a clothing pocket can get way too warm even if it shades your juice.
This is not all said to convince anyone vaping is 'dangerous' but like anything whether its tonight's dinner, or medication or other things you use internally, safe handling is the best practice. People tend to very careful with hardware to make sure its in perfect working order, or properly cleaned or tested well when its rebuilt and so on but very often neglect to correctly handling their juices and either ignore or do not know the correct handling of juice.
I think your description got the point of your post across very well lol. Thanks for the info
It was 18 mg nic. 60 pg/40 vg. Tobacco flavor. It was a new juice I was trying. I had used ot for a week before it was ruined with no problems.
I think fellow vapors leaving their juice in their hot cars this summer will be the most common mistake. LOL. Fair warning! ;-)
I've never had this happen and I have had my juice so hot it started leaking from my tank. I think I would be changing brands if I were you. I use 100%pg so maybe that's the difference.
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Me either...
Honestly, I'm not so sure about this. Go bad in 3 hrs in the sun? I've left mine in my car in direct sun light while we were shopping for a couple hrs. Juice was definitely hot but I didn't get a wild ride like you. I'll definitely be more conscious about it though... Just in case. Lol, I hate you for the mental image that keeps rolling through my head now...
Honestly, I'm not so sure about this. Go bad in 3 hrs in the sun? I've left mine in my car in direct sun light while we were shopping for a couple hrs. Juice was definitely hot but I didn't get a wild ride like you. I'll definitely be more conscious about it though... Just in case. Lol, I hate you for the mental image that keeps rolling through my head now...
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In my opinion if this is the result of leaving the bottle in the sun for a few hours, there was already something wrong with that juice and that is scarey. I've left PV's in the car by mistake for hours and the juice has been fine. Also, in a year of being a reasonably active ECF member I have never heard of this before. I would think that heating up a bottle or a tank of juice for a few hours in the sun happens to people other than me once in a while. So where are their stories?
I'm not saying you are lying. It's just that I seriously doubt if I take a few of my juices and put them in the oven at 180 F for a day they will turn bad. If someone knows better, please correct me.
Ummm storing in cool dark places is simply for longevity, many people heat their juices to steep faster, not saying your post OP is not correct, but I take all things with a grain of salt.
Maybe there's a more comprehensive post in the Health forum??
Many bottles of food stuff can be stored in a cupboard until opened of course, who knows maybe we well learn something new.....
Maybe there's a more comprehensive post in the Health forum??
Many bottles of food stuff can be stored in a cupboard until opened of course, who knows maybe we well learn something new.....
Sorry, not buying it. I work in the Florida sun, out of a hot truck, everyday. Even better, I've never heard anyone say this before. 
ETA: lay off the roach coach
ETA: lay off the roach coach
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Three years vaping in California sun. Left gear and juice in my car many times...
It's entirely possible that OP dropped his bottle and left it in the heat for three hours and then got sick--I just don't believe the two events are connected. People walk around with 5 ml carto tanks where eliquids circulate around hot atomizers coils for hours and nobody gets sick.
Just my two cents.
It's entirely possible that OP dropped his bottle and left it in the heat for three hours and then got sick--I just don't believe the two events are connected. People walk around with 5 ml carto tanks where eliquids circulate around hot atomizers coils for hours and nobody gets sick.
Just my two cents.
Don't take my advice. That's up to you. All I know is I'm not lettin that happen again! I feel and look like I've lost 20 lbs. It may have been a bad flavor although I tried it for a weel before this happened with no problems. The heat turned it toxic. It was a new flavor from a local shop. I told they owner what happened and he said sorry and that he would warn people. He had been selling a lot of it so I'm curious if I'll hear a similar story from him next time I go in to the store. I use other flavors of his all the time with no problems. Some have sat in hot cars but didn't turn rancid. Direct sunlight might be the factor. No windshield filter. Direct. It was clear then turned piss yellow in 3 hours. At first I thought I was onto something. It made the juice steep quicker! Yay! No. Bad, horrible experience that I wouldn't wish on an enemy.
I usually leave a bottle of juice along with my mvp+protank (with said juice in it) in the car because I have another device/juice for work....I think I will stop doing that now!
flynbyeya, as I said before, it's not that I don't believe you, it's that no-one else has had any issues with heating juice. Direct sunlight is radiation that reduces nicotine (very slowly) and as far as I know ......s bacterial growth. IMO there is something else going on here.
We're not suggesting that. What I'm suggesting is that the two events may not be related at all. If leaving your juice in the sun for a few hours would lead to such terrible sickness, many, many vapers would be throwing up all over the place.
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