A question for noobs by a noob...eVic or Provari?

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Ansah

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You are forgetting Variable Wattage, something the current generation of Prothingy does not have. ...arguably outdated.

I've never had a VW device, so I can't speak from experience there. But I do know that, the way I vape at least, there is no particular advantage to having it, since when I'm in different moods, or switch RBAs, carto tanks or juice, I would want to tweak the settings anyway because the optimal V²/Ω doesn't always equal the same watts level.

So besides adding another layer of complexity to the menus, I don't see the point.
 

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Steve if you buy the Vamo you will be happy for awhile. You will not have the Provari for comparison purposes. I own both and definitely recommend the Provari. I believe the chances of the vamo dying inside of 12 months are fairly high. The build quality isn't there for me.
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I have the evic on v1.2 and it is perfect. My friend has a provari, the provari is built great (best I've seen) and does what you want it to do, you can navigate easily, yet it is a little annoying to navigate IMO. After setting up my evic the way I like it, I hate having any other mod. I love having my date and time always there or my resistance and watts/volts always right there so I always see them. The provari is what it is though, when the v3 comes out, your v2 will be dated. The evic is the future always, due to being able to hook it up and update it to get all the features and perks that new mods will have. The evic is build sturdy, and won't break (rattley control ring though) and every part is replaceable. The evic is just my perfect mod
 

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I've never had a VW device, so I can't speak from experience there. But I do know that, the way I vape at least, there is no particular advantage to having it, since when I'm in different moods, or switch RBAs, carto tanks or juice, I would want to tweak the settings anyway because the optimal V²/Ω doesn't always equal the same watts level.

So besides adding another layer of complexity to the menus, I don't see the point.

Since resistance changes with heat, wear and even gunk buildup it's not just VW... it's the fact that most devices with VW monitor the attachment for a resistance reading every time you fire it and automatically adjust voltage to maintain the same wattage. When I first got mine I was obsessed with checking the resistance of every attachment I put on it, especially if I thought I tasted a difference from one puff to a later one. I knew one of my disposable bridgeless atomizers was on the way out when it started tasting different and showed a change from 1.8 ohms (new) to 1.6 ohms (two weeks of use later) and 1.3 the day it died. On my stardust knockoffs a change up to .4 ohms is a good indication that it is time to give it a good vodka bath over night or simply replace the coil. The point is that if you chain vape a whole bunch of different attachments at different resistances it's nice to have a fairly accurate wattage to rule them all, something you can't do with strictly VV (unless you are checking them with a DMM every use). Sure, I still click up or down half a watt or two, usually for a different PG/VG ratio or a specific flavor, but that's what them buttons are for ;)
 

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I own an evic and really have no complaints. It's been dropped a few times on hard surfaces that actually dented the body but it still works. Like mentioned earlier, pretty much everything can be replaced so I'm not worried that I dented it and is actually not too expensive to replace the body. Even though the provari has a name amongst vapers, I just can't do it with the current mod that has been out for a while. Waiting for the upgrade and then I'll definitely be owing a provari.
 

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Well, there's some valuable information above and some subjective information above. My personal opinion is that the eVic has too many damn options that would overwhelm a mod newbie, while ProThingy has a price tag too high for a mod newbie. My suggestion is to find what features each has without asking for peoples' highly subjective opinions and make up your own mind based on the budget and features you might like.

My plan is that I'll probably find my perfect vape through a perfect atomizer and perfect juice atop any half decent mod. Then I'll probably get an eVic eventually just to have a complicated shiny toy when they come out with a build that feels more solid in my hands. And I'll probably get a ProVari eventually when the V2 comes out, lowering the price of the V1 and making it a bit more affordable. In the meantime, I'll be most likely spending my vaping budget on adding a mechanical mod, juices, atomizers, drip tips, and that kind of stuff to my collection while vaping from my half-decent (actually quite decent IMHO) mid-range model LavaTube.
 

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I have an evic and love it. My first mod, started on an ego-c upgrade however I plan to get a Provari or Zmax at some point. The only complaint I have about the eVic is the 2.5amp limit. Makes using dual coil cartos not that enjoyable since you'd have to run them above the 2.5amps to get the best performance. But that can be solved with single coil cartos, which I am going to pick some up tomorrow and see if I like them more than the Protank. Will save that discussion for my own thread.

Basically if you want a Provari and have the money get one. I doubt you'd be disappointed you did and if you want VW get an eVic later on. Me personally, never used the VW on my eVic, always use VV setting. All the MVR and puff counter stuff has been pointless for me since I plugged in to the computer once and that was to upgrade to the v1.2 firmware so I could've gone with the Zmax, was deciding between the two. The eVic appealed to me because of those techy things but in the end they turned out to be useless (for me).
 

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Since resistance changes with heat, wear and even gunk buildup it's not just VW... it's the fact that most devices with VW monitor the attachment for a resistance reading every time you fire it and automatically adjust voltage to maintain the same wattage. When I first got mine I was obsessed with checking the resistance of every attachment I put on it, especially if I thought I tasted a difference from one puff to a later one. I knew one of my disposable bridgeless atomizers was on the way out when it started tasting different and showed a change from 1.8 ohms (new) to 1.6 ohms (two weeks of use later) and 1.3 the day it died. On my stardust knockoffs a change up to .4 ohms is a good indication that it is time to give it a good vodka bath over night or simply replace the coil. The point is that if you chain vape a whole bunch of different attachments at different resistances it's nice to have a fairly accurate wattage to rule them all, something you can't do with strictly VV (unless you are checking them with a DMM every use). Sure, I still click up or down half a watt or two, usually for a different PG/VG ratio or a specific flavor, but that's what them buttons are for ;)

I think VW is AWESOME now that I have it too. I like to switch out my Vivi's/flavors throughout the day. Matter of fact, I keep my Segelei Zmax in VW mode exclusively. VW keeps me consistent, and if I want to, I can just bump it up or down. Zmax also retains VW setting when you swap out batteries. For some reason I find it resets VV. At least I think it does.
 

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I think VW is AWESOME now that I have it too. I like to switch out my Vivi's/flavors throughout the day. Matter of fact, I keep my Segelei Zmax in VW mode exclusively. VW keeps me consistent, and if I want to, I can just bump it up or down. Zmax also retains VW setting when you swap out batteries. For some reason I find it resets VV. At least I think it does.

Maybe they do it the same way as they do with the VAMO. I read it somewhere that the VAMO keeps it's VW settings on battery change because it's safe... no matter what you attach to it it's still going to give you that same wattage. On the other hand it resets it's VV setting because unlike VW too much voltage *might* cause a booboo with an extreme resistance attachment. The post I read quoted it as an intentional "safety feature".
 

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... I'll be most likely spending my vaping budget on adding a mechanical mod, juices, atomizers, drip tips, and that kind of stuff to my collection while vaping from my half-decent (actually quite decent IMHO) mid-range model LavaTube.

Well this noob was going to ask why the lavatube wasn't thrown into the mix by somebody. It appears to do everything the provari does and the V2 seems to have a more rugged build (than the earlier lavatube version) being machined from high strength aluminium. Given that it's half the price of the provari, what would we be missing out on?
 

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Lavatube, eVic, or Provari, it all depends on your budget. Period. I am crazy stupid broke. I found a non-refurbished eVic kit, battery, charger, etc. for $80 from my favorite supplier. A blemished Provari is $140, nothing included. Lavatubes are much less than that, but I can't afford to buy them all at once. I am not a klutz, and am willing to give the fragile eVic a try. I have waffled on this subject since the eVic was on ver1.1, and won't be able to give an objective opinion on which one is better unless I have them all.
 
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