65Mg-75Mg E-Liquid

[DaMulta]

Well the word around the bush is that they are making e-liquid up to 75Mg. I think I might of found someone that may be able to hook me up with some 65Mg flavored. Don't know for sure(may be a while), and I don't have any idea on the company at all.

Does anyone know of anyone producing e-liquid at that strength?




Wondering Wondering

 

[ravengrim]

Isn't 60 mg considered an insecticide?

 

[TheVapSter]

no but SOON as you hear word please let me know

there was a post today where a guy had vape heavy all day and went have blood work done and the nic level was real real low like 13 when a smokers normaly around 60(i think thats what it was i will try to dig it up)but just shows up we are not really getting alot of nic i vape 36mg all day heavy and never got a nic buzz(not looking for one just proving the issue)

 

[DaMulta]

I'll let it be known when I know. I was told maybe in the fall this will become more available.....


I asked him to ask if he could pick me up 300Ml of flavored 65, but I know that he said that the 75 will be no flavored + total against vapping that straight or anything higher due to really high risk of OD.

I think 60-65Mg would be vapable tho IMO.

 

[emus]

Isn't 60 mg considered an insecticide?

I hope so.

Maybe I can buy it in the garden section

 

[olderthandirt]

LOL

You do realize the net-nannie storm this thread will probably unleash dontcha?

And I get the feeling you could care less

 

[emus]

LOL

You do realize the net-nannie storm this thread will probably unleash dontcha?

And I get the feeling you could care less

Is that why I don't see much about strong unflavored liquids???
Or is it because peolple are not ready to mix their own recipes???

 

[DaMulta]

LOL

You do realize the net-nannie storm this thread will probably unleash dontcha?

And I get the feeling you could care less

I just want the strong stuff LOL I know it's not for everyone, but there is some of us that can handle strong E-Liquid.

I can vape 36Mg all day non-stop. I can do the same with 48Mg, but that does slow me down.....

Now 60-65Mg I think I could take a vape, and then go off for a while without the need for it for a while.

 

[Hangtime]

Isn't 60 mg considered an insecticide?

if you soak a pack of analogs in water and spray it on a plant it will kill insects. I think any mg is insecticide concidering the fact that is why tobacco plants and other plants produce it in the first place.

 

[kinabaloo]

Next month, new range from Totally Wicked.

Some more about it here: New juice range from TW / Decadent Vapors to be launched soon

I have some but haven't used it much yet.

edit : have now added a photo of the sample to the article linked above.

 

[DaMulta]

You have some of the 70Mg?

TW only plans to release 54Mg as far as I'm aware.

 

[Kate51]

no but SOON as you hear word please let me know

there was a post today where a guy had vape heavy all day and went have blood work done and the nic level was real real low like 13 when a smokers normaly around 60(i think thats what it was i will try to dig it up)but just shows up we are not really getting alot of nic i vape 36mg all day heavy and never got a nic buzz(not looking for one just proving the issue)

That post was in response to a person who was vaping 36mg/ml liquid, at a rate of about 2 millileters per day. Not 72mg/ml. Please, you're not understanding the toxicity or the physiological affects of nicotine. If you ingested 1 millileter of 75mg juice within an hour, your heart would probably stop. Or you'd maybe be just wishing it would. You would be very very ill. Any more questions? BETTER LOOK INTO IT > A BIT FURTHER.
If a person smokes 3 packs of cigarettes per day, you may ingest up to 70 mg of nicotine. The half-life of nicotine in your body is about one hour, depending on you metabolism. So your total intake may be 70, but at any one time you may have in a twelve hour period of time, about 6mg of nicotine ingested for that hour.
If you vape 36mg/ml liquid, a total of 3-4 ml of juice total for the day, say 12 hours, your nicotine ingestion for an hour would be about 12mg. That would test out to be about 1.2 mg nicotine, because with vaping our bodies only absorb about 10% of the total ingested, because unlike smoking, our lungs are not absorbing the nicotine, the absorbtion is taking place in our mouths, nose, and throat. That's the theory anyway. And the testing numbers you referred to is the level of cotinine in you blood, which is a by-product of nicotine absorbed and processed by your body. It is not the nicotine amount you ingested, it is simply the testing standard of measure, whether you test in saliva, urine, or plasma. So the numbers I used here are just the number of mg of nicotine ingested, it probably would not test out at those levels after absorbtion.
The nicotine concentrations you are talking about would require you to wear a haz-mat suit to re-fill your cartridge. Wanna vape it?

 

[TheVapSter]

I never said 75mg/ml and i never said i would Vape it straight I know the Dangers!!!

 

[DaMulta]

I never said 75mg/ml and i never said i would Vape it straight Get your Facts Right Before POSTING!!! I know the Dangers!!!

I don't think a puff or two would kill you, and I don't think anyone could handle chain vapping it.

The whole idea in thinking with stronger E-Liquid is stopping the Chain Vapping. Less PG and the other stuff that you inhale every time you take a puff.

 

[TheVapSter]

I agree DaMulta since i stop smoking real cigs about 2 packs a day I vape all day i think DIYing something a slight stronger would let me give vaping a break! thats all not vaping 75mg straight that would just be plain stupid!!

 

[kinabaloo]

You have some of the 70Mg?

TW only plans to release 54Mg as far as I'm aware.

That might be because of distribution in the US (?)

In the UK, up to 7% (77mg) is legally distributable without hazard gear and permits etc., afaik.

The reason I have the sample is for finding the source back in May: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/experiments-equipment/16469-elephant-room-8.html#post304586

Nick O Teen was active in the thread at the time and already I think beginning to set up a juice company (Decadent Vapors) so obviously was interested. Exogenesis, who actually performed the experiment I devised re increased deposits from VG, and the LorAnn flavor spreadsheet, was involved in liasing with Nick O Teen too; and mght now be comparing PG, VG and PEG bases for e-juice. Nick then hooked up with TW at some point. There must be more on that in the TW forums I guess.

It all flowed from my quest for 'cleaner' juices (the Elephant thread). This purity of nicotine should help avoid nitrosamines and other tobacco remnants - to at least as low as in other NRT products (i.e. far lower than in analog smoke).

I have had it a few weeks now but only mixed up an 18mg mix so far. I will try something stronger to check if I can get a buzz like an analog ...

 

[DaMulta]

Great thread!

 

[kinabaloo]

Great thread!

Thanks !

Was certainly a long one

And perhaps a few more pages yet, someday ...

 

[irbf]

Good to hear this is still ongoing. 24 is helping me... very little.

 

[dave8944]

That post was in response to a person who was vaping 36mg/ml liquid, at a rate of about 2 millileters per day. Not 72mg/ml. Please, you're not understanding the toxicity or the physiological affects of nicotine. If you ingested 1 millileter of 75mg juice within an hour, your heart would probably stop. Or you'd maybe be just wishing it would. You would be very very ill. Any more questions? BETTER LOOK INTO IT > A BIT FURTHER.
If a person smokes 3 packs of cigarettes per day, you may ingest up to 70 mg of nicotine. The half-life of nicotine in your body is about one hour, depending on you metabolism. So your total intake may be 70, but at any one time you may have in a twelve hour period of time, about 6mg of nicotine ingested for that hour.
If you vape 36mg/ml liquid, a total of 3-4 ml of juice total for the day, say 12 hours, your nicotine ingestion for an hour would be about 12mg. That would test out to be about 1.2 mg nicotine, because with vaping our bodies only absorb about 10% of the total ingested, because unlike smoking, our lungs are not absorbing the nicotine, the absorbtion is taking place in our mouths, nose, and throat. That's the theory anyway. And the testing numbers you referred to is the level of cotinine in you blood, which is a by-product of nicotine absorbed and processed by your body. It is not the nicotine amount you ingested, it is simply the testing standard of measure, whether you test in saliva, urine, or plasma. So the numbers I used here are just the number of mg of nicotine ingested, it probably would not test out at those levels after absorbtion.
The nicotine concentrations you are talking about would require you to wear a haz-mat suit to re-fill your cartridge. Wanna vape it?

I think the problem is that the vaporizers are not efficient at vaporizing much of the nicotine potential in the liquid. I think they must be geared toward vaporizing PG, not nicotine. Nicotine can be absorbed through the skin easily, and you are correct that 75mg juice would be VERY toxic to handle. Still, I had to switch from 24mg to 36mg to get enough nicotine just from vaping. I think they REALLY need to improve the quality of these devices! If a US corporation did it I think the nicotine content could be much lower because more nicotine would make it into the PG smoke.