4 months in and its still yucky

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Hershey Suffolk

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Here's something interesting. Maybe someone can explain what this means.

I was vaping a vendor premade juice earlier in the day and then i switched to my own made juice in the afternoon and then to another vendor's premade juice later that night.

Using my Crius Tank with juice control for all three. I noticed that both vendors premade juices would bubble easily through the juice holes, but my juice would be very slow to generate bubbles through the juice holes.

What do you guys think?
 

HerbertGreenstreet

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Hi Herbert,
Thank you for your reply. I found myself quickly humbled by your words.

Ok, so I felt the same way about having what I thought was the perfect tools to master juice making in a snap! I've since learned some things from the support I've received from the guys in the forum.

I initially tried measuring using syringes, but I couldn't get the measurements exact. My eyesight isn't the greatest at my age now. So the ml to gms using a digital scale seemed more appropriate and accurate.

Here's my list of TFA concentrates:
Red Velvet,
Orange Mandarin,
Sweet & Tart,
Black Cherry,
Citrus Punch,
English Toffee,
Apple Candy,
Maraschino Cherry,
Almond flavor,
DX Cinnamon Danish,
Cola flavor,
Watermelon candy,
French vanilla creme,
Key Lime,
DX Bavarian creme,
Pie crust,
DX vanilla cupcake,
Sour flavor,
Grape candy,
Cherry crush (flavor west)
Lemon sicily (FA)
Cherry (FA)
Red touch strawberry (FA)
Sweetener (ecigxpress)

My mods, tanks, cotton, etc:

Smok X Cube Mini 75W
Joyetech eVic VT 60W
Joyetech Cuboid 150W

Crius Tank V3 RTA
Bellus Tank RTA
Cubis Tank RTA
eGo One Mega

Koh Gen Do pure cotton
26 awg kanthal wire (master of clouds)

I use the Coil Master kit to roll my wire and test it on the Coil Master 521 ohm meter.

If you or anyone has any input they would like to share. Please feel free to add it.

Thanks again for your input.

You're very welcome Hershey, I must admit I am a little humbled by the positive responses to my post. I picked up a bunch of tips etc, but I have never posted in a forum before this fearing negative replies that I have seen all too often. This forum seems to have a huge amount of helpful and patient users thankfully.
I do apologise for not posting in the intro thread first btw, it just slipped my mind.

Anywho, your juice. You have a superb stock of concentrates, it is hard to imagine they are all tainted in some way, so let's discount that for now.
Your tanks I doubt are a problem, I use both makes without problems, my Crius (also v3) has become my go-to and produces some of the finest flavours this side of a dripper.
So apart from your measurements being out I see one suspect, your sweetener. Again I use the same product though sold through Capella, It is a smashing aid but very rarely needed, and always added after any samples have matured (steeped) and found to be a little lacking. I find it far better than EM as it doesn't turn every flavour into cotton candy and doesn't get bitter, but you need to use it very sparingly

The sweetener (sucralose) is the exception to my syringe rule.
I don't know if you add it assuming you'll need it, or afterwards as I described, but either way, you will never need more than 1 drop in a 20ml sample/mix, or a tiny drop per 10ml.
The stuff is ridiculously sweet, If I recall it is around 600x sweeter than regular sugar, a 10ml bottle would be around the same as a kilo of granulated, possibly more?
I think I would first grab a few syringes online or at the pharmacy/health food store and then try 2 or 3 10ml mixes.
Leave out the sweetener initially, you can add it if absolutely necessary later, and see how things go.

One last little tip re' your eyesight, another thing we share, trust me. Using one hand, so you can hold your 1oz bottle in the other, you pull up concentrate or nicotine to the very top, beyond the 1ml markings until any further and you'll pull out the plunger. (don't worry it won't come out without you really tugging on it) you'll have around 1.12ml or a good 11% which is a fair % of concentrate to start a new sample and then adjust up or down as needed.
A full 1ml/1.12ml syringe also gets you 0.9 nicotine (using 72mg) in a 10ml sample, if you fill and then squeeze a third out by eye you won't be too far either way for a 0.6 nic, half what's left and you have +/- 0.3
A 5ml syringe has pretty big markings so hopefully, you can see them without problems. I will wish you good luck but with all the advice in the thread, I think you'll be fine.
 

Hershey Suffolk

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You're very welcome Hershey, I must admit I am a little humbled by the positive responses to my post. I picked up a bunch of tips etc, but I have never posted in a forum before this fearing negative replies that I have seen all too often. This forum seems to have a huge amount of helpful and patient users thankfully.
I do apologise for not posting in the intro thread first btw, it just slipped my mind.

Anywho, your juice. You have a superb stock of concentrates, it is hard to imagine they are all tainted in some way, so let's discount that for now.
Your tanks I doubt are a problem, I use both makes without problems, my Crius (also v3) has become my go-to and produces some of the finest flavours this side of a dripper.
So apart from your measurements being out I see one suspect, your sweetener. Again I use the same product though sold through Capella, It is a smashing aid but very rarely needed, and always added after any samples have matured (steeped) and found to be a little lacking. I find it far better than EM as it doesn't turn every flavour into cotton candy and doesn't get bitter, but you need to use it very sparingly

The sweetener (sucralose) is the exception to my syringe rule.
I don't know if you add it assuming you'll need it, or afterwards as I described, but either way, you will never need more than 1 drop in a 20ml sample/mix, or a tiny drop per 10ml.
The stuff is ridiculously sweet, If I recall it is around 600x sweeter than regular sugar, a 10ml bottle would be around the same as a kilo of granulated, possibly more?
I think I would first grab a few syringes online or at the pharmacy/health food store and then try 2 or 3 10ml mixes.
Leave out the sweetener initially, you can add it if absolutely necessary later, and see how things go.

One last little tip re' your eyesight, another thing we share, trust me. Using one hand, so you can hold your 1oz bottle in the other, you pull up concentrate or nicotine to the very top, beyond the 1ml markings until any further and you'll pull out the plunger. (don't worry it won't come out without you really tugging on it) you'll have around 1.12ml or a good 11% which is a fair % of concentrate to start a new sample and then adjust up or down as needed.
A full 1ml/1.12ml syringe also gets you 0.9 nicotine (using 72mg) in a 10ml sample, if you fill and then squeeze a third out by eye you won't be too far either way for a 0.6 nic, half what's left and you have +/- 0.3
A 5ml syringe has pretty big markings so hopefully, you can see them without problems. I will wish you good luck but with all the advice in the thread, I think you'll be fine.
I'm gonna back off the sweetener until after steeping. I will get some 1ml syringes and try it out. Thanks again for your advice.
 

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I will try a different calculator and see if I get something different. Thanks for the reply.
Here's a nice calculator that works fine with mixing by weight.
New Calculator to try
If you use it, be sure to get the Recipe Starter Kit file from the site too. It has lots of flavors, PG, VG, Nicotine, and of course, recipes.
 

Adam harris

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Your main problem is mixing single flavors and adding nothing to them....

Try combining flavors together like a couple fruits and a cream..

Example..
TFA juicy peach 5%
TFA pear 5%
TFA mango 5%
TFA sweet cream 2%

Also stop using sweetener all together...the flavors are sweet enough and adding sweetener basically mutes the flavor your trying to get and instead gives off muted sweetness.

Hope this helps
 
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