Below is a listing from a bottle of e-liquid that I purchased from Liberty Flights:
One of the first things noticed here is that the percent of ingredients for Liberty Flights does not add up to 100%. The percentages listed actually add to 97.5%. However, the explanation might be that there are a number of ingredients not listed because the ingredient contributes less than, say 0.2%, is therefore "not significant". But this explanation would mean there are something like 13 or so compounds/chemicals that are not identified. Another explanation might be that the "missing" percent is nicotine as nicotine is not a specifically listed ingredient.
Another thing that is noted is that there does appear to be variation in the chemicals used in the e-liquids from vendor to vendor. Although there are some common chemicals between the Liberty Flights blend and the blend of TTW, there are several variation as well. The most notable to me is the water. TTW apparently uses water in its mixes whereas Liberty Flights seems to be using 2-acetylpyradine ethanol in its place. Since I'm not a chemist, it is kind of hard for me to know if 2-acetylpyradine ethanol is as good as vodka but vodka or something like vodka might be the difference.
Another observation relates to what seems to be a relatively common type of thread posted on the forum. The common type that I have in mind is the type where a usually new vaper comments that their chest has started to hurt since starting to vape or that their sleep condition has changed since starting to vape, etc. That is, some health related issue has arisen since beginning to vape. A common reply to these type posts is the PG (or VG) has been known to cause allergic type responses and that best advise is to try PG (or VG) and drink plenty of water. But what the above listing suggests to me is that there could be quite a number of different possible chemicals that might be creating adverse responses. It seems to me that some of these complaints might just be related some particular vendors "special brew" or even a "bad batch" of a standard brew that has worked well in the past for the vaper. It also suggests to me that if one finds that "special blend" that works well without problems, it might be best to stick with the "winner" (manufacturer primarily IMO) and not venture to new vendors with the hope of saving a few pennies.
But - the real question. Given the concoction of chemicals that are found in e-liquids, is it not likely that the nicotine in the e-liquid is likely a salt of nicotine instead of free base nicotine? Some vapers find vaping somewhat short from their prior experiences of smoking. Could it be that the lack of free base nic is the short fall?
Phillip Morris recently acquired patent rights to an inhaler system that involve nicotine pyruvate. Kind of wondering if the addition of a little pyruvic acid (or perhaps as replacement for 2-Methyl butyic acid) to the "brew" might create a vapor that would be move receptively received in the lungs that might take vapers closer to prior smoking experiences? And, just maybe, there is an e-liquid mixture out there now that has some nicotine pyruvate in its vapor? Would like to know if such a brew exists.
Then here is a listing of ingredients of a bottle of e-liquid purchased from TWW.Listed ingredients of Liberty Flights - VG | e-liquid | Winston | 14mg
vegetable glycerin 75.0%
3-methylcyclopentane-12-dione 2.5%
1-malic acid 3.0%
2,3,5,6-tetramethylpyazine 1.5%
2,3,5-trimthylprazine 0.3%
betadamescenone 0.2%
acetylpyrazine 0.2%
2-acetylpyradine ethanol 10.0%
rhodinol 0.3%
vanillin 2.5%
ethyl acetate 0.5%
ethyl maltol 1.0%
2-mthyl-butyic acid 0.5%
Pillbox 38 Totally Wicked E-Smoking Liquid | Chocolate | 18 MG
Tobacco essencial oil <5%
Tobacco leaf oil <5%
Nicotine (from tocacco leaf) <3%
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine <1%
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine <1%
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine <1%
2-Acetypyrazine <1%
2-Methyl butyic acid <1%
Terp ineol <1%
Ethyl maltol <1%
Guaiacol <1%
Acetyl pyridine <2%
Octalactone(gamma) <1%
Pure water <10%
Propylene glycol >65%
Glycerol <20%
One of the first things noticed here is that the percent of ingredients for Liberty Flights does not add up to 100%. The percentages listed actually add to 97.5%. However, the explanation might be that there are a number of ingredients not listed because the ingredient contributes less than, say 0.2%, is therefore "not significant". But this explanation would mean there are something like 13 or so compounds/chemicals that are not identified. Another explanation might be that the "missing" percent is nicotine as nicotine is not a specifically listed ingredient.
Another thing that is noted is that there does appear to be variation in the chemicals used in the e-liquids from vendor to vendor. Although there are some common chemicals between the Liberty Flights blend and the blend of TTW, there are several variation as well. The most notable to me is the water. TTW apparently uses water in its mixes whereas Liberty Flights seems to be using 2-acetylpyradine ethanol in its place. Since I'm not a chemist, it is kind of hard for me to know if 2-acetylpyradine ethanol is as good as vodka but vodka or something like vodka might be the difference.
Another observation relates to what seems to be a relatively common type of thread posted on the forum. The common type that I have in mind is the type where a usually new vaper comments that their chest has started to hurt since starting to vape or that their sleep condition has changed since starting to vape, etc. That is, some health related issue has arisen since beginning to vape. A common reply to these type posts is the PG (or VG) has been known to cause allergic type responses and that best advise is to try PG (or VG) and drink plenty of water. But what the above listing suggests to me is that there could be quite a number of different possible chemicals that might be creating adverse responses. It seems to me that some of these complaints might just be related some particular vendors "special brew" or even a "bad batch" of a standard brew that has worked well in the past for the vaper. It also suggests to me that if one finds that "special blend" that works well without problems, it might be best to stick with the "winner" (manufacturer primarily IMO) and not venture to new vendors with the hope of saving a few pennies.
But - the real question. Given the concoction of chemicals that are found in e-liquids, is it not likely that the nicotine in the e-liquid is likely a salt of nicotine instead of free base nicotine? Some vapers find vaping somewhat short from their prior experiences of smoking. Could it be that the lack of free base nic is the short fall?
Phillip Morris recently acquired patent rights to an inhaler system that involve nicotine pyruvate. Kind of wondering if the addition of a little pyruvic acid (or perhaps as replacement for 2-Methyl butyic acid) to the "brew" might create a vapor that would be move receptively received in the lungs that might take vapers closer to prior smoking experiences? And, just maybe, there is an e-liquid mixture out there now that has some nicotine pyruvate in its vapor? Would like to know if such a brew exists.