A few months back, I found all the V4L tobacco flavors to be among the best around; Cowboy, Kamel, Kant, Parliament, and Virginia were all favorites that I would switch around with equal enjoyment.
Naturally, when the VG cartomizers became available, I had to try them, so I ordered several boxes each on Cowboy and Kamel. They were a big disappointment. The characteristic Cowboy and Kamel taste was nearly nonexistant; instead there was an overbearing, pungent, almost sickly taste. I've haven't used VG-based liquids much, so I don't really know if the taste is attributable to it or not.
Since then, nearly all of the cartomizers I've ordered have had that same taste to a greater or lesser extent; the exception being "premium" RY4 (it was present in premium Cowboy). The taste is definitely not present in the 5mL bottles, nor was it present in the old 20mL bottles, or the "old" 30mL bottles they were available for a very short time. Since I was able to rinse and refill the cartos from my liquid stock, it wasn't that much of a problem, up until now. Unfortunately for me, I just received one of the new 30mL bottles of Kamel, and the same taste is present in it.
I'm not that good at articulating nuances in flavors, so I can't really describe well what it tastes like; sort of a pungent, almost musty taste. My wife says it smells like marshmallows, but to me it smells a bit like burning dry grass.
I know there's been some transitional problems with getting flavors to match the old standards. And I also know (I think) that there's been some tweaking with VG to increase vapor production. But, I have to ask: is this how everything is going to taste now? I know taste is a very subjective thing, and some may not agree with me on this, but I really can't stand this "overtone" taste in everything.
Please note, in every instance where I've complained, V4L has bent over backwards to correct the problem; I have absolutely no complaints in that area. But, I'm concerned that this isn't a "fixable" issue, but is instead simply how it's going to be from now on.
I'd really like to hear from other tobacco flavor lovers on this (only because that's all I vape).
Meanwhile, I may have to see how many of the old formula 5mL bottles are left and stock up
Naturally, when the VG cartomizers became available, I had to try them, so I ordered several boxes each on Cowboy and Kamel. They were a big disappointment. The characteristic Cowboy and Kamel taste was nearly nonexistant; instead there was an overbearing, pungent, almost sickly taste. I've haven't used VG-based liquids much, so I don't really know if the taste is attributable to it or not.
Since then, nearly all of the cartomizers I've ordered have had that same taste to a greater or lesser extent; the exception being "premium" RY4 (it was present in premium Cowboy). The taste is definitely not present in the 5mL bottles, nor was it present in the old 20mL bottles, or the "old" 30mL bottles they were available for a very short time. Since I was able to rinse and refill the cartos from my liquid stock, it wasn't that much of a problem, up until now. Unfortunately for me, I just received one of the new 30mL bottles of Kamel, and the same taste is present in it.
I'm not that good at articulating nuances in flavors, so I can't really describe well what it tastes like; sort of a pungent, almost musty taste. My wife says it smells like marshmallows, but to me it smells a bit like burning dry grass.
I know there's been some transitional problems with getting flavors to match the old standards. And I also know (I think) that there's been some tweaking with VG to increase vapor production. But, I have to ask: is this how everything is going to taste now? I know taste is a very subjective thing, and some may not agree with me on this, but I really can't stand this "overtone" taste in everything.
Please note, in every instance where I've complained, V4L has bent over backwards to correct the problem; I have absolutely no complaints in that area. But, I'm concerned that this isn't a "fixable" issue, but is instead simply how it's going to be from now on.
I'd really like to hear from other tobacco flavor lovers on this (only because that's all I vape).
Meanwhile, I may have to see how many of the old formula 5mL bottles are left and stock up
