Hello All,
You might ask what the heck is a Booger Box. No it's not a Booger it's a VV Bogger Box from Bogger Box Mods
I bought this box with my own tight wallet so this is a totally independent review.
A VV Bogger Box is a HandCrafted, American Made, Wood Bottom Feeding Box.
I Chose the VV Bogger Box form many reasons.
First I love Wood Boxes, I think they look unusual and elegant. The second is that I’m a something of a hobbiest, been vaping for 4 years. I kept hearing that the very best tasting vape available is through dripping. But I’ve tried dripping before and it wasn’t for me. Time consuming, Dry Hits, just isn’t intuitive.
I’ve used] Carto’s Clearos and lately I feel like I’m not getting the greatest taste. Also as a hobbyist it just didn’t seem right to not experience a bottom feeding device. Bottom feeding is equivalent to dripping, just the juice enters the atomizer through the bottom.
I’m a fan of VV, I like the ability to adjust the Voltage to the Juice and Atomizer instead of being stuck with adjusting the Atomizer and the Liquid to the PV.
The main choices I saw in the market were the Reo Grande VV [Metal], the Red Sky Mod, and the Bogger Box.
I didn’t include Vapage because their box is not VV.
I decided not to buy the VV Reo Grande because I’ve had/seen interaction with the owner and just haven’t been favorably impressed. I’m not saying anything bad about him and his service has an excellent reputation, but he just seems a little full of himself [Possibly Deservedly So]
The other thing I didn’t like about the Reo Grande VV is that it’s a mass produced metal box[See clarification in 3rd Post]. Also they skimp on the warranty, VV chip electronics is only warrantied 6 months.
One other intangible is the button, that VV Reo Grande button just looks downright cheap. The WoodVille VV which he’s stopped producing due to the success of the metal units has a very nice button.
So for $195.00 I don’t get a year warranty, I get a mass produced box* with a cheap looking button.
Red Sky Mods – Never in Stock
I was on the forum and read about the Bogger Box. The reviews were very good, than I went to the site and they had two options. One was to get a custom crafted mod, you get to choose the Woods and it takes a few weeks. Or they had a number of Wood PV that were already configured and ready to go.
I investigated on the Forum again seeing if I could find any bad reviews, and they just weren’t there. I even saw Marcus [The owner] responding to a forum post where the person had dropped the Bogger and cracked the wood and he was offering to try to help.
The only negative review I found was that some were claiming that the Bogger Box drains the battery when the PV is not active. One post said overnight it discharges. Another Post says that it will discharge .10V per day. I’m going to put a fresh battery pack in tonight and check the next day. If this flaw exists it’s something that isn’t a deal breaker. I have 3 sets of batteries and always keep a pair in the charger, a pair on me and a pair in the unit.
What really got me off my duff is that for Easter they had a 15% sale, so my Bogger Box ended up with the extras like metal button and extra deep drip cup costing me under $150.00. I look for value and an American Made Crafted Wood Box VV priced at $40.00.00 under a Mass Produced Metal Mod looked good to me. In addition the Bogger Box offers a 1 year warranty. The only other company in the Industry offering 1 year Warranty [That I know of] is Provape. I figure that any company offering a1 year warranty in this industry must be very confident of their quality.
Prior to purchase I had a question and put in a support ticket and when I checked my mail a few hours later, on a Friday Easter Weekend. The question was answered. I liked the way Marcus answered one part of it. When I asked him why his box is better than the Reo Grande he said basically that he doesn’t know, he concentrates on what he’s doing and doesn’t pay attention to what others are doing.
So darned it, he didn’t give me a chance to not buy the unit by not responding quickly. He demonstrated a commitment to a high service level.
Well I pulled the trigger on Friday Night and the PV arrived on Monday, turns out Marcus ships on Saturdays. Loved it. If I’m going to spend the big bucks on a PV, I really appreciate fast shipping. Than I opened the package and a beautiful smell of lacquer greeted my nostrils. I held it up and looked at it from all sides and it was flawless. The only flaw I could see was on the bottom there is a voltage adjustment screw and inside it looked like some sort of filling was on it up against the screw. So minor that it doesn’t bother me a bit, after all we are talking hand crafted.
The pictures on the website didn’t do my Bogger Box Justice, I bought a darker wood with a light trim. The wood turned out to be less dark and have a beautiful reddish tinge to it. I had been worrying that my PV would be too dark but the reddish tint and the slightly lighter shade made the difference.
The dimensions of the VV Bogger Box are:
3 cm thick // 4.8 cm wide + 5mm for Button // 10.2 cm Tall + 9mm Deep Drip Cup
I went into a vape shop yesterday and everyone looked at it and started salivating, they all asked me where I got it. The bogger box is a real attention getter.
The next step was to open the unit. This was a little hard to figure out, first the seams are so tight you have to look at it triple to make sure where the edges are. Also instead of sliding in and out it seems like the lid snaps in and out with some seriously strong earth magnets to hold the lid in place.
When I opened it I was really impressed by the interior, it was just so clean the wiring ran around the side and all the electronics were hidden.
Than I put in my 2 AW IMR 18350 Batteries and man it was tight. Not because there is no clearance but because the spring they are using is a very thick gauge high tension spring. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled them out of some super stiff mattress and snipped them down with a Bolt Cutter. If you decided to use a larger protected battery, that might be an option.
I’m sticking with AW IMR 18350 because I’m only going to put the best in this APV. Scuse me do Ferrari owners put regular gas or high octane in there cars.?
Now let’s get into the review.
The bogger box is a Bottom Feeder. The mechanism is pretty simple. Inside the box is a plastic bottle, in the case of the bogger box the Nalgene LDPE bottle holds a whopping 8ml of liquid. The process is lthat you squeeze the bottle from the outside and it shoots e-liquid up into the Atomizer.
The use of the Bogger Box is very ergonomic. The button is on the top and below is the opening to squeeze the juice bottle. I grab the box and my index finger is on the Fire Button and my third finger squeezes the bottle. So I can Squonk while I’m firing the button. I noticed on the VV Reo Grande that the bottle is located on the left bottom of the unit and it didn’t look as user friendly.
I confirmed details with Marcus about the box and some features not found on his website.
The Bogger Box will adjust from 3.0V to 7.0Volts. The switch is a massive 5 amps! The button is large with a really nice feel to it. Slight click but not a lot. I do like the button it just feels right. By the way it’s waterproof and rated for 1 million clicks. Marcus says that if he’s going to give a year warranty he can’t afford to use cheap components.
The Large inside dripping cup around the atomizer is very interesting . I had to use a 510 extender to put a meter on the Bogger Box and would need an extender to use a Tank. Since I’m planning on using thin Atomizers, this Cup is perfect for me. By the way it looks sharp too. The drip well is custom and not fabricated from home depot washers. Not a drop of juice has spilled since I began. If overfilled it pools and than is absorbed back into the PV. He offers a shorty drip cup suitable for use with Tank use also. And says he has 12 options for drip cups!
One of my concerns when purchasing a mod is the threading and durability of the atomizer hole. The VV Bogger Box uses brass. One major problem that I’ve seen with mods is when the center pin gets pushed in and the unit can’t fire anymore. I asked Marcus about this and he says that he positions the pin 1mm higher and epoxys the inside of the bottom of the connector to keep it from moving. The jury is out on this one, but since I have a year warranty I’m going to trust that he “keeps it from ever being able to move”
Now we get to the 1 negative of the Bogger Box. Sorry Marcus, I have to be truthful. In some ways they’ve sacrificed functionality for fashion. His concept is to make a beautiful small unit. The Voltage Control is a screw on the underside of the box and you need a very small screwdriver to adjust it. Also it’s not marked from left to right or precisely calibrated so adjusting the voltage is very haphazard.
I can’t imaging using this PV initially without a 510 extender and a cheap Volt Indicator [Meter] http://eliquidplanet.com/assembled-volt-indicator.html, at least until you get accustomed to it. He does provides you with a keychain screwdriver that’s nifty. Changing the voltage on this unit is not a pleasant experience.
Now we enter into the fun stuff, what about the vaping experience. Excellent the ergonomics are great. The filtering on the Box are very good you can use any meter to check the voltage. One of the ways that you can check if the PWM filtering is good is when you put a cheap indicator like the one above it works. They won’t work unless the output voltage is steady. I found a drop of .14 to .2 under load.
Purists will be annoyed by that, me if the change is the same every time than I just accommodate for it.
It uses two stacked batteries which generates 8.2 V of electricity when the batteries are fully charged and than the voltage steps down. I’ve found these devices to be more stable and reliable than booster types of devices that take 3.7 and boost the current up.
I was vaping a 2.5Ohm Boge Atomizer at around 4.7 and it lasted from early morning into the evening. You definitely will want to carry a spare set of batteries with you. Considering that the two batteries are only 700mah each it’s decent vaping time and a fairly efficient unit.
By the way, with two stacked batteries and a 5Amp switch I believe that this PV is suited to xtreme vaping especially with a 7V maximum output.
My apologies, to those that have read my Smoktek Box Reviews, I’m not going to torture test my Bogger Box, it’s just too pretty. I hope that some xtreme vapors will come along later and brag how they went to 6V on a 1.5ohm Atty. But not me!
You might ask what the heck is a Booger Box. No it's not a Booger it's a VV Bogger Box from Bogger Box Mods
I bought this box with my own tight wallet so this is a totally independent review.
A VV Bogger Box is a HandCrafted, American Made, Wood Bottom Feeding Box.
I Chose the VV Bogger Box form many reasons.
First I love Wood Boxes, I think they look unusual and elegant. The second is that I’m a something of a hobbiest, been vaping for 4 years. I kept hearing that the very best tasting vape available is through dripping. But I’ve tried dripping before and it wasn’t for me. Time consuming, Dry Hits, just isn’t intuitive.
I’ve used] Carto’s Clearos and lately I feel like I’m not getting the greatest taste. Also as a hobbyist it just didn’t seem right to not experience a bottom feeding device. Bottom feeding is equivalent to dripping, just the juice enters the atomizer through the bottom.
I’m a fan of VV, I like the ability to adjust the Voltage to the Juice and Atomizer instead of being stuck with adjusting the Atomizer and the Liquid to the PV.
The main choices I saw in the market were the Reo Grande VV [Metal], the Red Sky Mod, and the Bogger Box.
I didn’t include Vapage because their box is not VV.
I decided not to buy the VV Reo Grande because I’ve had/seen interaction with the owner and just haven’t been favorably impressed. I’m not saying anything bad about him and his service has an excellent reputation, but he just seems a little full of himself [Possibly Deservedly So]
The other thing I didn’t like about the Reo Grande VV is that it’s a mass produced metal box[See clarification in 3rd Post]. Also they skimp on the warranty, VV chip electronics is only warrantied 6 months.
One other intangible is the button, that VV Reo Grande button just looks downright cheap. The WoodVille VV which he’s stopped producing due to the success of the metal units has a very nice button.
So for $195.00 I don’t get a year warranty, I get a mass produced box* with a cheap looking button.
Red Sky Mods – Never in Stock
I was on the forum and read about the Bogger Box. The reviews were very good, than I went to the site and they had two options. One was to get a custom crafted mod, you get to choose the Woods and it takes a few weeks. Or they had a number of Wood PV that were already configured and ready to go.
I investigated on the Forum again seeing if I could find any bad reviews, and they just weren’t there. I even saw Marcus [The owner] responding to a forum post where the person had dropped the Bogger and cracked the wood and he was offering to try to help.
The only negative review I found was that some were claiming that the Bogger Box drains the battery when the PV is not active. One post said overnight it discharges. Another Post says that it will discharge .10V per day. I’m going to put a fresh battery pack in tonight and check the next day. If this flaw exists it’s something that isn’t a deal breaker. I have 3 sets of batteries and always keep a pair in the charger, a pair on me and a pair in the unit.
What really got me off my duff is that for Easter they had a 15% sale, so my Bogger Box ended up with the extras like metal button and extra deep drip cup costing me under $150.00. I look for value and an American Made Crafted Wood Box VV priced at $40.00.00 under a Mass Produced Metal Mod looked good to me. In addition the Bogger Box offers a 1 year warranty. The only other company in the Industry offering 1 year Warranty [That I know of] is Provape. I figure that any company offering a1 year warranty in this industry must be very confident of their quality.
Prior to purchase I had a question and put in a support ticket and when I checked my mail a few hours later, on a Friday Easter Weekend. The question was answered. I liked the way Marcus answered one part of it. When I asked him why his box is better than the Reo Grande he said basically that he doesn’t know, he concentrates on what he’s doing and doesn’t pay attention to what others are doing.
So darned it, he didn’t give me a chance to not buy the unit by not responding quickly. He demonstrated a commitment to a high service level.
Well I pulled the trigger on Friday Night and the PV arrived on Monday, turns out Marcus ships on Saturdays. Loved it. If I’m going to spend the big bucks on a PV, I really appreciate fast shipping. Than I opened the package and a beautiful smell of lacquer greeted my nostrils. I held it up and looked at it from all sides and it was flawless. The only flaw I could see was on the bottom there is a voltage adjustment screw and inside it looked like some sort of filling was on it up against the screw. So minor that it doesn’t bother me a bit, after all we are talking hand crafted.
The pictures on the website didn’t do my Bogger Box Justice, I bought a darker wood with a light trim. The wood turned out to be less dark and have a beautiful reddish tinge to it. I had been worrying that my PV would be too dark but the reddish tint and the slightly lighter shade made the difference.
The dimensions of the VV Bogger Box are:
3 cm thick // 4.8 cm wide + 5mm for Button // 10.2 cm Tall + 9mm Deep Drip Cup
I went into a vape shop yesterday and everyone looked at it and started salivating, they all asked me where I got it. The bogger box is a real attention getter.
The next step was to open the unit. This was a little hard to figure out, first the seams are so tight you have to look at it triple to make sure where the edges are. Also instead of sliding in and out it seems like the lid snaps in and out with some seriously strong earth magnets to hold the lid in place.
When I opened it I was really impressed by the interior, it was just so clean the wiring ran around the side and all the electronics were hidden.
Than I put in my 2 AW IMR 18350 Batteries and man it was tight. Not because there is no clearance but because the spring they are using is a very thick gauge high tension spring. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled them out of some super stiff mattress and snipped them down with a Bolt Cutter. If you decided to use a larger protected battery, that might be an option.
I’m sticking with AW IMR 18350 because I’m only going to put the best in this APV. Scuse me do Ferrari owners put regular gas or high octane in there cars.?
Now let’s get into the review.
The bogger box is a Bottom Feeder. The mechanism is pretty simple. Inside the box is a plastic bottle, in the case of the bogger box the Nalgene LDPE bottle holds a whopping 8ml of liquid. The process is lthat you squeeze the bottle from the outside and it shoots e-liquid up into the Atomizer.
The use of the Bogger Box is very ergonomic. The button is on the top and below is the opening to squeeze the juice bottle. I grab the box and my index finger is on the Fire Button and my third finger squeezes the bottle. So I can Squonk while I’m firing the button. I noticed on the VV Reo Grande that the bottle is located on the left bottom of the unit and it didn’t look as user friendly.
I confirmed details with Marcus about the box and some features not found on his website.
The Bogger Box will adjust from 3.0V to 7.0Volts. The switch is a massive 5 amps! The button is large with a really nice feel to it. Slight click but not a lot. I do like the button it just feels right. By the way it’s waterproof and rated for 1 million clicks. Marcus says that if he’s going to give a year warranty he can’t afford to use cheap components.
The Large inside dripping cup around the atomizer is very interesting . I had to use a 510 extender to put a meter on the Bogger Box and would need an extender to use a Tank. Since I’m planning on using thin Atomizers, this Cup is perfect for me. By the way it looks sharp too. The drip well is custom and not fabricated from home depot washers. Not a drop of juice has spilled since I began. If overfilled it pools and than is absorbed back into the PV. He offers a shorty drip cup suitable for use with Tank use also. And says he has 12 options for drip cups!
One of my concerns when purchasing a mod is the threading and durability of the atomizer hole. The VV Bogger Box uses brass. One major problem that I’ve seen with mods is when the center pin gets pushed in and the unit can’t fire anymore. I asked Marcus about this and he says that he positions the pin 1mm higher and epoxys the inside of the bottom of the connector to keep it from moving. The jury is out on this one, but since I have a year warranty I’m going to trust that he “keeps it from ever being able to move”
Now we get to the 1 negative of the Bogger Box. Sorry Marcus, I have to be truthful. In some ways they’ve sacrificed functionality for fashion. His concept is to make a beautiful small unit. The Voltage Control is a screw on the underside of the box and you need a very small screwdriver to adjust it. Also it’s not marked from left to right or precisely calibrated so adjusting the voltage is very haphazard.
I can’t imaging using this PV initially without a 510 extender and a cheap Volt Indicator [Meter] http://eliquidplanet.com/assembled-volt-indicator.html, at least until you get accustomed to it. He does provides you with a keychain screwdriver that’s nifty. Changing the voltage on this unit is not a pleasant experience.
Now we enter into the fun stuff, what about the vaping experience. Excellent the ergonomics are great. The filtering on the Box are very good you can use any meter to check the voltage. One of the ways that you can check if the PWM filtering is good is when you put a cheap indicator like the one above it works. They won’t work unless the output voltage is steady. I found a drop of .14 to .2 under load.
Purists will be annoyed by that, me if the change is the same every time than I just accommodate for it.
It uses two stacked batteries which generates 8.2 V of electricity when the batteries are fully charged and than the voltage steps down. I’ve found these devices to be more stable and reliable than booster types of devices that take 3.7 and boost the current up.
I was vaping a 2.5Ohm Boge Atomizer at around 4.7 and it lasted from early morning into the evening. You definitely will want to carry a spare set of batteries with you. Considering that the two batteries are only 700mah each it’s decent vaping time and a fairly efficient unit.
By the way, with two stacked batteries and a 5Amp switch I believe that this PV is suited to xtreme vaping especially with a 7V maximum output.
My apologies, to those that have read my Smoktek Box Reviews, I’m not going to torture test my Bogger Box, it’s just too pretty. I hope that some xtreme vapors will come along later and brag how they went to 6V on a 1.5ohm Atty. But not me!
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