San Mateo County (CA) Board of Supervisors bans vaping and smoking inside and outside of apartments and condos

[Bill Godshall]

San Mateo County (CA) Board of Supervisors bans smoking and vaping inside and outside of apartments and condos; Godshall comments.
San Mateo County bans smoking inside apartments, condos and townhomes - San Jose Mercury News

A previous article about the proposed ban
County rules target e-cigs and smoking: Board of Supervisors consider complete ban for unincorporated area multi-unit buildings - - San Mateo Daily Journal

 

[skoony]

i hope the Realtor's sue.
it would be interesting.
regards
mike

 

[cafecraig]

I just found this myself - thanks for keeping an eye out, Bill.

http://bayareanewstalk.com/officials-implement-e-cigarette-smoking-regulations-in-san-mateo-county/

Note: the existing San Mateo County "smoking prohibited" ordinance(s) are changed to include use of e-cigarettes, effective 30 days from now.

I posted a comment, at both places. I go over to San Mateo County sometimes. I will want to vape there. Bay Area residents, please feel free to comment. It's easy.

 

[Endor]

Nice comment, Bill. It is true that there are often some dang offensive smells in apartments/condo communities, and none of them include vaping.

This is unenforceable, as vaping inside even a shared-wall condo/apartment is really undetectable (at best, barely detectable as a pleasant smell of a berry "air freshener", based on what I'm vaping right now). I should know, as I've vaped in non-smoking hotel rooms for years with never a complaint from neighbors -or- the hotel management.

 

[Painter_]

But they are allowing the other types of burning vegetable matter. But for medical reasons only. The stupidity of these people will never stop amazing me.

 

[LaraC]

Craig (cafecraig), what an excellent comment you wrote below the Bay Area News & Talk article linked in your post. The two references you mentioned were perfect:
1. “Peering Through the Mist: Chemistry and Contaminants of e-cigarettes,” 2014, Dr. Igor Burstyn, Drexel Univ School of Public Health
2. “Real-world effectiveness of e-cigarettes when used to aid smoking cessation,” Aug 2014, Cancer Research UK, Dr. Robert West et al.

 

[bigdancehawk]

"The San Mateo County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously
to change the definition [sic] of “smoking” and “tobacco product” to include
electronic smoking devices."

At the same meeting, the San Mateo County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously
to change the definitions of "dog" and "canine" to include parakeets.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

"The San Mateo County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously
to change the definition [sic] of “smoking” and “tobacco product” to include
electronic smoking devices."

At the same meeting, the San Mateo County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously
to change the definitions of "dog" and "canine" to include parakeets.

Is it now required by law that you have to teach your parakeet to bark?

 

[bigdancehawk]

Is it now required by law that you have to teach your parakeet to bark?

No, but all parakeets must now get rabies shots and be on a leash when not confined in an enclosed area.

EDIT: Trained guide parakeets are permitted on commercial aircraft, in restaurants, etc. LIcenses for unaltered parakeets are considerably more expensive, so most owners have them neutered.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

This just highlights what we are dealing with, kind of like the legislator that tried to pass a law that said pi = 3.

 

[cafecraig]

Thank you Lara! Comments may get some "fence-sitters" to wonder if we may be right. Therefore if given the chance, I want to add the references, so people can look up the support and read it for themselves and see what I mean.

One point the article misses: Santa Clara County added "e-cigarettes/vapor products" into all existing "no smoking/smoke-free" county ordinances.

So anywhere in San Mateo County (this is the hugely populated area between Silicon Valley and San Francisco) where you could vape indoors but not smoke, now you cannot vape either. Effective 11/22 I believe.

 

[DC2]

And now it's official...

There is at least one place in the United States where you can not vape in your own home.
I hope that all the "I don't vape where I can't smoke" people will consider this a wake-up call.

Probably not.

 

[bigdancehawk]

And now it's official...

There is at least one place in the United States where you can not vape in your own home.
I hope that all the "I don't vape where I can't smoke" people will consider this a wake-up call.

Probably not.

That's what happens when people have become accustomed to being marginalized.

 

[Endor]

But they are allowing the other types of burning vegetable matter. But for medical reasons only. The stupidity of these people will never stop amazing me.

I noticed that too. I guess the smell of burning that doesn't bother people nearby?

And, second-hand smoke from that has no negative health impacts whatsoever?

Oh wait... err.... the American Lung Association says that "M......... smoke contains a greater amount of carcinogens than tobacco smoke". So, yes, it does impact health.

If they truly wanted to do this to improve health, then this should have been #1 on the hit list. Yet it was EXCLUDED, as it's the sacred cow of the people that run this state.

Stupidity, yes... in spades.

The scary part is, this sets a precedent that other counties/cities will start to follow.

 

[Kent C]

Even though I've said I don't mind vaping in smoking designated areas - I like the people who smoke .....and SHS is BS.... but from an ANTZ viewpoint, basically they're saying to vapers - even though you think that vaping is safer, although there is no evidence to support that, and even if that is the case, then we want to expose you to second hand smoke anyway. Try to improve your health and they do things to counteract it - we may live longer and screw up their 'smoking related death' stats. lol. And that is one of the primary PR points, even though it's cooked beyond recognition.

 

[DC2]

The scary part is, this sets a precedent that other counties/cities will start to follow.

And that, of course, is the most important thing about this.
And it's no coincidence that it happens in the backyard of Satan Glantz.

 

[Lisa Belle]

Thank You Craig Campbell for your awesome comments.