Ruyan america launches e-mystick® rapp®
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Pretty sure this is one of the sources of 'synthetic nicotine' - which I believe JC and Ecopure uses, without anything that could be called a 'tobacco product' - which is currently the wording in much of the legislation, state and federal. Since it isn't a 'tobacco product' then it won't be affected by current legislation. But that doesn't mean they can't include it in future legislation. And again, it doesn't have to have any 'logic' for them to do that. They can just do it. I think, in the end, they'll opt to tax and regulate. They can afford to lose the tax if everyone that smoked (or even a fraction of those who smoke) quit tobacco altogether.
lobelia tasts like tobacco, it is a flavor itself, i ordered some from HerbsPro to try DIY liquid, i guess it'll arrive in 2 weeks.
I'll try it and give you my feedback
jeez good luck with that ruyan. just as dangerous. that will fly under the radar with the fda
would this RAPP satisfy nicotine carvings then?
EDIT: just thought of something- do they have salvia liquid? wow that would be some crazy ish
EDIT: just thought of something- do they have salvia liquid? wow that would be some crazy ish
lol that'd be pretty cool, but no way it gets near hot enough to vaporize salvinorin a
I Just recieved lobelia from HerbsPro, for now when it comes to craving the answer is yes you'll not have craving for nicotine,
The stuff has no smell nor taste, the problem now for me is to flavor it to be like nicotine liquid,
I'll keep you updated but for now the answer is yes that lobelia will be the main ingredient in our DIY liquid.
The stuff has no smell nor taste, the problem now for me is to flavor it to be like nicotine liquid,
I'll keep you updated but for now the answer is yes that lobelia will be the main ingredient in our DIY liquid.
I dunno but maybe their juice could be the solution to our problems.
There has been zilch on this RAPP since the intro - You go to the site, no info at all?
I ran into this device today at local conv. store chain. They had a 1' x 3' window decal above the door and a small display box on the counter that contained about a dozen boxes of product.
I picked it up while I was waiting in line to check out and it said that one "serving" is 10-12 puffs and that each device (or package, not clear) held 90 servings!
I thought about picking one up but the retail price was $24.99, which I was not willing to shell out, even in the name of science. Having never heard of it, I searched here and found this thread.
Sidenote to Minnesota members: this was at a Holiday store, this one was in Medina, out west of Minneapolis on Highway 12.
I picked it up while I was waiting in line to check out and it said that one "serving" is 10-12 puffs and that each device (or package, not clear) held 90 servings!
I thought about picking one up but the retail price was $24.99, which I was not willing to shell out, even in the name of science. Having never heard of it, I searched here and found this thread.
Sidenote to Minnesota members: this was at a Holiday store, this one was in Medina, out west of Minneapolis on Highway 12.
Here's a link to the product with the specs: Ruyan America RAPP-Sunridge Distribution, Inc
Very pricey IMHO
Very pricey IMHO
Especially since its missing the best ingredient, nicotine! LOL .. Seems like something to appeal to the 'dream catcher sportin' hackey sackin' crowd if you know what I mean.
The device is somewhat interesting but I'm more into this lobelia. Is it the future, or are some of us already inhaling it? It was mentioned here that a vendor uses it in one of their liquids, and suggested it's included in or is the basis of synthetic nicotine like that of Ecopure. Does anyone have more on this?
I've been telling people it's synthetic nicotine I'm inhaling, which doesn't seem to do too much for convincing them it's better, like mentioning a lack of CO and tar does. This could strengthen my ability to convert if I could go into better detail as to what synthetic nicotine is, lobelia has some strong selling points.
Of my 'nicotine' containing liquids, I'm currently using Ecupure Krystal, and various VG based, flavored liquids from Cignot. I would love to find more info on the basis of the 'nicotine' ingredient in these. Side question... are there liquids that actually contain real nicotine or are they all using synthetic?
I've been telling people it's synthetic nicotine I'm inhaling, which doesn't seem to do too much for convincing them it's better, like mentioning a lack of CO and tar does. This could strengthen my ability to convert if I could go into better detail as to what synthetic nicotine is, lobelia has some strong selling points.
Of my 'nicotine' containing liquids, I'm currently using Ecupure Krystal, and various VG based, flavored liquids from Cignot. I would love to find more info on the basis of the 'nicotine' ingredient in these. Side question... are there liquids that actually contain real nicotine or are they all using synthetic?
Most of them are all real nic. I may have to spring the $25 to try this thing out. Curious. Wish someone had a review.
I know im new here, but i have tried this product, Honestly it was the first vape i bought. Heres my review and i can add to it later since my internet is being hard headed tonight.
I purchased the menthol version and i havent tried the original.
The taste isn't bad at all very minty and somewhat overpowering at first. The device produces a good amount of vapor at first, now mines on its last leg so the vapor production isnt as good.
I currently still smoke analogs (till my 510 gets here then i hope to throw those away) I personally still have cravings for nicotine after using it, but i have noticed i seem to breath easier after using it.
I bought it thinking i could use it to help quit, and well if it works for everyone else the way it worked for me, don't count on it. I still want nicotine and have noticed no change in eating habits.
It a completely sealed unit, but that hasn't stopped me from taking it apart, it has quite a large batt (which explains the weight if this thing) A rather large cart, and some sort of plastic encased atty. When its completely empty i will dive into that further. If nothing else refill it with e juice and use it as a backup till the batt dies completely. Ill post pics once i can get on the internet with a computer that isnt running linux.
Sorry my review kinda sucked im typing on a netbook and i type 3 words and then look up realize to of them are wrong (since i have big fingers) and have to delete them, and so the process continues. lol
Hope m first post was a productive one and helps some of you guys out
Mike
I purchased the menthol version and i havent tried the original.
The taste isn't bad at all very minty and somewhat overpowering at first. The device produces a good amount of vapor at first, now mines on its last leg so the vapor production isnt as good.
I currently still smoke analogs (till my 510 gets here then i hope to throw those away) I personally still have cravings for nicotine after using it, but i have noticed i seem to breath easier after using it.
I bought it thinking i could use it to help quit, and well if it works for everyone else the way it worked for me, don't count on it. I still want nicotine and have noticed no change in eating habits.
It a completely sealed unit, but that hasn't stopped me from taking it apart, it has quite a large batt (which explains the weight if this thing) A rather large cart, and some sort of plastic encased atty. When its completely empty i will dive into that further. If nothing else refill it with e juice and use it as a backup till the batt dies completely. Ill post pics once i can get on the internet with a computer that isnt running linux.
Sorry my review kinda sucked im typing on a netbook and i type 3 words and then look up realize to of them are wrong (since i have big fingers) and have to delete them, and so the process continues. lol
Hope m first post was a productive one and helps some of you guys out
Mike
i may have misunderstood the article... but whats the point with there being 0nic?
Lobeline interacts with some of the receptor subtypes that are activated by nicotine. (we'll see if the links go up)
Damaj et al., 1997 Pharmacology of Lobeline, A Nicotinic Receptor Ligand
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/282/1/410.full.pdf
Millet al 2004 Lobeline Analogs with Enhanced Affinity and Selectivity for Plasmalemma and Vesicular Monoamine Transporters
Lobeline Analogs with Enhanced Affinity and Selectivity for Plasmalemma and Vesicular Monoamine Transporters ? JPET
Damaj et al., 1997 Pharmacology of Lobeline, A Nicotinic Receptor Ligand
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/282/1/410.full.pdf
Millet al 2004 Lobeline Analogs with Enhanced Affinity and Selectivity for Plasmalemma and Vesicular Monoamine Transporters
Lobeline Analogs with Enhanced Affinity and Selectivity for Plasmalemma and Vesicular Monoamine Transporters ? JPET
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