Questions about micro coils + cotton

[qfivenine]

I have a few questions regarding micro coil + cotton builds.

1. Horizontal coils: what is the deal here? Are they supposed to be better in some ways? What are the benefits of horizontal micro coils with cotton?

2. If you forget about the liquid going empty in your tank and you use cotton / continue to vape, it starts to taste slightly burnt (I don't mean vaping on completely dry cotton). Are you supposed to change the cotton after that? I made the experience that if you don't let it go dry completely, the burnt taste goes away after you fill your tank again.

Thank you.

 

[bender817]

What tank are you talking about?

 

[qfivenine]

I have the Kayfun Lite Plus and a Fogger V3.

 

[Thunderball]

I have a few questions regarding micro coil + cotton builds.

1. Horizontal coils: what is the deal here? Are they supposed to be better in some ways? What are the benefits of horizontal micro coils with cotton?

2. If you forget about the liquid going empty in your tank and you use cotton / continue to vape, it starts to taste slightly burnt (I don't mean vaping on completely dry cotton). Are you supposed to change the cotton after that? I made the experience that if you don't let it go dry completely, the burnt taste goes away after you fill your tank again.

Thank you.

Horizontal coils...... a slightly better taste of the juice and less vapor ( my experience) I stopped using this set up, not worth the trouble to me.

Burnt cotton... yes you are right on both points...but in my experience, that would have shortened the life of the cotton... as in will start to taste bad a whole lot quicker. I just change the .01 cents worth of cotton and go about my buisness.

 

[nostinkies]

Hey thunderball, I know youre a russian/KFL+ user... How about telling us about youre preferred setup? pictures would be awesome. I've got the KFL+ and loving it. But it seems like after 2days of vaping, my vapor production goes way down so I tear it apart. Thats when I find the coil really gunked up. SO I remove the cotton, burn the coil clean and rewick and good to go again. I'm running horizontal coils, 28g around a 1.5mm drill bit usually 8wraps I think. shows 1.2-1.4 ohms. I'd like to try the vertical coil.

 

[qfivenine]

Sorry, I meant vertical coils of course. I have been using horizontal coils all the time. What benefits do vertical coils have?

 

[mgmrick]

Hey thunderball, I know youre a russian/KFL+ user... How about telling us about youre preferred setup? pictures would be awesome. I've got the KFL+ and loving it. But it seems like after 2days of vaping, my vapor production goes way down so I tear it apart. Thats when I find the coil really gunked up. SO I remove the cotton, burn the coil clean and rewick and good to go again. I'm running horizontal coils, 28g around a 1.5mm drill bit usually 8wraps I think. shows 1.2-1.4 ohms. I'd like to try the vertical coil.

What are you using for juice? Mine last a good week before needing a rebuild

 

[nostinkies]

Hey rick I'm running or rather vaping 50/50 16mg juice from creatacig called kind berry. I've been vaping at 10watts (I have an evic) I typically go thru about 4-5ml per day. After sucking down 10ml, my coil is total crud and vapor drops quickly. I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong, I kinda thought this might be normal.. ?

 

[mgmrick]

Sounds like your juice is not fully vaporizing (I vape at 12 watts..1.3 ohm coil) or your juice is a very high percent of flavor (mine is 2.5% or less flavoring)

 

[qfivenine]

Oh, so you don't replace the cotton every day?

 

[sandt38]

Hey thunderball, I know youre a russian/KFL+ user... How about telling us about youre preferred setup? pictures would be awesome. I've got the KFL+ and loving it. But it seems like after 2days of vaping, my vapor production goes way down so I tear it apart. Thats when I find the coil really gunked up. SO I remove the cotton, burn the coil clean and rewick and good to go again. I'm running horizontal coils, 28g around a 1.5mm drill bit usually 8wraps I think. shows 1.2-1.4 ohms. I'd like to try the vertical coil.

Could just be your juice. Some juice just likes to gunk up coils.

Here's mine getting ready to be changed.

Oh, so you don't replace the cotton every day?

I replace it every tankful, and dry burn the coil. I am using a lot of cinnamon mixed with strawberry lemonade (great flavor figured out by accident) and it gunks up my coil pretty quickly.

 

[nostinkies]

Well I'll be a ^%^$^%$... ONE day and my problem is back. This time I carefully took it apart. Cotton looked great, nice and wet with juice. I pulled it out and took some photos of the carnage on the coil. Anyone have any suggestions?? Thanks for the help.

 

[bender817]

I'm not entirely sure this will work, but its worth a shot... Try using something just a little smaller to wrap on and add a wrap or two get get the ohms back up. Also make sure that the coil is completely compressed. If that doesn't work its probably the juice you are using. What mod are you driving that with? Did you have a wick over it too?

 

[nostinkies]

Thanks bender for the suggestions.. I have not put a wick over it. The coil is completely compressed. I am driving it with an evic. :-/ I need to bend over and buy a semovar. When you say get the ohms back up, do you mean say 1.6-2.0? The lowest ohm coil I have been able to fire with the evic is 1.1ohms. It sure seems the 28g 1.4ohm coil takes nearly 3secs to start to produce vapor for me. I'm about to go back to 30g kanthal.

 

[bender817]

Thanks bender for the suggestions.. I have not put a wick over it. The coil is completely compressed. I am driving it with an evic. :-/ I need to bend over and buy a semovar. When you say get the ohms back up, do you mean say 1.6-2.0? The lowest ohm coil I have been able to fire with the evic is 1.1ohms. It sure seems the 28g 1.4ohm coil takes nearly 3secs to start to produce vapor for me. I'm about to go back to 30g kanthal.

No, what I meant by "getting the ohms back up was when you use a smaller instrument to wrap on your ohms will drop down too because you have less total wire. By adding another wrap or two it will get back to where it was. Oh and I have had 2 evic's and they actually lag almost a whole second before they fire and then ramps up to whatever voltage or wattage you have it set for. I have experimented for countless hours trying to get rid of that lag, and it isn't possible with the evic because it is programmed to do that.

 

[nostinkies]

Gotcha bender. I'll give it a whirl after this tankful. It's working like a dream right now, but I know it wont last. How I love the kayfun! I REALLY gotta convince the wife to let me pickup the semovar. I know what you mean by the lag. I like the evic, only paid 60bucks at my local vape shop. They had them on sale so I snagged a spare.

 

[nostinkies]

Oh btw, the evic has a new software update. they are up to 1.4 now. Crazy to think a fricking Ecig needs a software update. Screwy!

 

[mgmrick]

Are you using premixed juice?

I would say its the juice you are using... can you try another flavor?

I vape about 5ml of juice through my kayfun a day and get at least a week of a setup.... my coils never look that gunked up

 

[nostinkies]

I'll try another flavor with my current setup. This way I might be able to isolate the issue. Thanks.

 

[nostinkies]

YUP. It's the juice. Looks like I just get to burn off the coil daily. But the flavor is amazing, So I'll just deal with it I guess.