New York raises age of tobacco purchase to 21
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Votes dont make any difference, democracy is an illusion, money makes the difference.
From a quote I saw today which encapsulates todays world (and yesterdays)
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."
Upton Sinclair
Reading another thread, it appears this was the measure taken in place of a complete ban on sales to everyone... killed that Bill and came up with this one.
How else will they honestly prove that "minors" not only vape, but began with vaping... They will use this study no doubt, so arm yourselves.. Study: E-Cigarettes Not a Gateway for Teen Smoking | Convenience Store Decisions
Most people buy vape supplies online, how are they going to stop that? Is it only illegal to buy or is it to use also? Can you imagine cops carding you for a 0mg ecig while someone else is being mugged down the street?
Hey. Wait...
My generation fought to have all the 21 age limit stuff moved back to 18 for the aforementioned fighting and dying reasons.
... is wrong with people?
My generation fought to have all the 21 age limit stuff moved back to 18 for the aforementioned fighting and dying reasons.
... is wrong with people?
I hear ya!
Sometimes, when I speak with people who are younger than me, I get the feeling that those people and I are not even on the same planet. "I saw it on TV, so it must be right" Yeah... sure...
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Raising the age to 21 does nothing but increase the level of creativity of teenagers.
True !!
Money, not morality, is the principle commerce of civilized nations.
Thomas Jefferson
Yes, Uma, I understand.
But I myself am far beyond the point of feeling any emotion about what new silliness and Nannying "those up there" think up now. Except a cold feeling of contempt.
And I am very happy indeed that I am no longer young and that I will not have unlimited time, that I will not have many, many decades in which I would have to live - and work - in this nightmare that they are creating. Out of what we thought would be a great world. When we were young.
Technology, as it is now, has by far overtaken the wildest imaginations of earlier days.
So has repression from above.
Nineteen-eighty-four
Thank you, but no thank you.
But I myself am far beyond the point of feeling any emotion about what new silliness and Nannying "those up there" think up now. Except a cold feeling of contempt.
And I am very happy indeed that I am no longer young and that I will not have unlimited time, that I will not have many, many decades in which I would have to live - and work - in this nightmare that they are creating. Out of what we thought would be a great world. When we were young.
Technology, as it is now, has by far overtaken the wildest imaginations of earlier days.
So has repression from above.
Nineteen-eighty-four
Thank you, but no thank you.
I've been feeling that way for a looong time, Anjaffm. Sad in a way....but, about ready to leave....
This might be off topic, but....
Between self made millionaire "kids" and political activist "kids" ... Why do we stereotype "kids" as drooling embiciles?
12-yr-old takes on NC Governor re. voting rights | "Story of America" #102 - YouTube
12-yr-old takes on NC Governor re. voting rights | "Story of America" #102 - YouTube
Between self made millionaire "kids" and political activist "kids" ... Why do we stereotype "kids" as drooling embiciles?
12-yr-old takes on NC Governor re. voting rights | "Story of America" #102 - YouTube
12-yr-old takes on NC Governor re. voting rights | "Story of America" #102 - YouTube
wow, that girl is amazing! 
But then... you know.. when adults are treated like stupid sheep who cannot make decisions for themselves... who need to be told what to eat, what to drink (and how much, remember that attempted ban on those big soft drink portions)... and especially what to think.. . why on earth should young people be treated any differently? To those in power, if people are sheep, then young people are just lambs... growing up to be led to the slaughter, fattened on nonsense and lies.
This may sound cold. But this is what I have come to believe, by what I see.
But then... you know.. when adults are treated like stupid sheep who cannot make decisions for themselves... who need to be told what to eat, what to drink (and how much, remember that attempted ban on those big soft drink portions)... and especially what to think.. . why on earth should young people be treated any differently? To those in power, if people are sheep, then young people are just lambs... growing up to be led to the slaughter, fattened on nonsense and lies.
This may sound cold. But this is what I have come to believe, by what I see.
wow, that girl is amazing!
But then... you know.. when adults are treated like stupid sheep who cannot make decisions for themselves... who need to be told what to eat, what to drink (and how much, remember that attempted ban on those big soft drink portions)... and especially what to think.. . why on earth should young people be treated any differently? To those in power, if people are sheep, then young people are just lambs... growing up to be led to the slaughter, fattened on nonsense and lies.
This may sound cold. But this is what I have come to believe, by what I see.
I know, right.
No 2 liters? I am a little confused, it is not the soda pop but the size of the container? Was this a plan to reduce consumption? Someone can get 2 16oz bottles then. I had not heard of this one. Amazing.
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