Originally Posted by poor_red_neck
So I get my bottle of e-juice from totally wicked and Im a little confused. The ingredients listed on this site are normally just PG, Nic, Water, Flavoring...
However my bottle reads:
Trimethylpyrazine
Tetramethylpyrazine
Methyl butyic acid
etc
etc
etc.
I've googled some of them and the first few results are saying they are USED in flavorings, but not what MAKE UP the flavoring.
What exactly are these things that I'm vaping?
Quote Imogene: Can you list the entire ingredients list?
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I could not post in new member's forum but below are the ingredients as listed in latest lab report from TW.
The comments that can be taken from the Material Safety Data Sheets illustrate how easy it is for anyone to build a case against the liquid on the grounds of safety by selective quoting.
That is just one reason why Intellicig have minimalised the ingredients in ECOpure and why it is tested to the highest level under normal use conditions and beyond. We do not want just a contents analysis or a report that potentially reads like the one below and we will continue to set high standards with regard to testing.
John.
Guaiacol
Guaiacol
WARNING! CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY BE HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. COMBUSTIBLE LIQUID AND VAPOR.
Terpineol
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Alpha_Terpineol-9927291#search="terpineol MSDS"
Very hazardous in case of ingestion. Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of
inhalation.
butyric acid
Safety (MSDS) data for butyric acid
Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Corrosive. Extremely unpleasant smell may cause nausea. Liquid may burn skin and eyes. Readily absorbed through the skin. Severe skin, eye and respiratory irritant.
2Acetypyrazine
http://www.alkalimetals.com/msds/2-ACETYLPYRIDINE_MSDS.pdf
Emergency over view
Irritating to eyes and skin
Potential health effects:
Eye : Causes eye irritation.
Skin : Causes skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin.
Ingestion : May cause irritation of the digestive tract.
Inhalation : May cause respiratory tract irritation. May be harmful if inhaled.
2,5Dimethylpyrazine
http://www.convachem.com/product/strImg/msds/123-32-0.pdf
Potential Health Effects
Eye: May cause eye irritation.
Skin: May cause skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the
skin.
Ingestion: Harmful if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive tract.
Inhalation: May cause respiratory tract irritation. May be harmful if inhaled.
2,3,5,6Tetramethylpyrazine
Safety (MSDS) data for tetramethylpyrazine
Harmful if swallowed. May be harmful if inhaled and in contact with skin. Respiratory irritant. Toxicology not fully investigated.
2,3,5Trimethylpyrazine
http://www.elan-chemical.com/dev/msdspdf/2,3,5 TRIMETHYL PYRAZINE.pdf
Emergency Overview
Combustible(USA). Flammable (EU). Harmful.
Harmful if swallowed. Irritating to eyes, respiratory system and skin.
Tobacco leaf oil
tobacco leaf absolute 8037-19-2
R 22 - Harmful if swallowed.
R 36/38 - Irritating to skin and eyes.
Triethylene Glycol
Triethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Diethylene_glycol-9927514
Potential Acute Health Effects: Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion,
of inhalation. The substance is toxic to blood, kidneys, the nervous system, liver.
Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
Tetraethylene Glycol
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterat...fety/pdfs/noreg/233-00373.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc
Not hazardous according to Directive 67/548/EEC.
Pentaethylene Glycol
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterat...fety/pdfs/noreg/233-00563.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc
May be harmful by inhalation, ingestion or through skin contact. May act as an irritant.
Octalactone
http://www.lansdownearomatics.com/assets/Naturals-pdf/GAMMA OCTALACTONE.pdf
INHALATION May be harmful if inhaled.
INGESTION May be harmful if swallowed.
SKIN CONTACT May cause skin irritation
EYE CONTACT May cause eye irritation.
List of ingredients based on report shown below.
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CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS
Report Number: 1610083
Date of Report:
Client: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Suite 3a Brookmill Complex
Branch Road
Lower Darwen
Lancashire
BB3 0PR
Client Contact: Mr Jason Cropper
Client Job Reference: Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid
Date Job Received at SAL: 01April2009
Date Analysis Started: 07April2009
The results reported relate to samples received at the laboratory
Opinions and interpretations expressed herein are outside the scope of UKAS accreditation
This report should not be reproduced except in full without the written approval of the laboratory
Tests covered by this certificate were conducted in accordance with SAL SOPs
Key to symbols used in this report:
W: Analysis was performed at another SAL laboratory
S: Analysis was subcontracted
N: Analysis is not UKAS accredited
U: Analysis is UKAS accredited
Report written by: C. Rodger
Laboratory Manager
Report checked R. Hare
and authorised by: Laboratory Manager (Air Division)
14th July 2009
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester. M16 9FE
Page 2 of 4
Analysis of the Content of Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid supplied by Pill Box 38 (UK) Ltd
A sample of Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid was supplied to Scientific Analysis Laboratories Limited, to
determine the percentage level of nicotine it contained and other compounds present. The sample was analysed
by Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry.
The sample supplied was a 30ml bottle of 36mg Super High eliquid.
The Nicotine level was found to be : 1.8% (w/w)
The following pages of this report, give a more detailed breakdown of the analysis and details of other
compounds found
Note: On the following pages the term LOD means Limit of Detection, this is the lowest amount of a sample that can be
detected using the technique GC/MS (Gas Chromatography Mass
Spectrometry).
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester, M16 9FE
Page 3 of 4
Supplement to Report Number: 1610083
Client Job Reference:
SAL Ref: 161008 001
Client Ref: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Type: Oil
Ingredients Method Units LOD Symbol
Tobacco essencial oil n/a % n/a N <5%
Tobacco leaf oil n/a % n/a N <5%
Nicotine (from tobacco leaf) n/a % n/a N <3%
2,3,5Trimethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2,3,5,6Tetramethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2,5Dimethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2Acetypyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2Methyl
butyric acid n/a % n/a N <1%
Terp ineol n/a % n/a N <1%
Ethyl maltol n/a % n/a N <1%
Guaiacol n/a % n/a N <1%
Acetyl pyridine n/a % n/a N <2%
Octalactone (gamma) n/a % n/a N <1%
Pure water n/a % n/a N <10%
Propylene Glycol n/a % n/a N >65%
Glycerol n/a % n/a N <20%
Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester, M16 9FE
Page 4 of 4
Supplement to Report Number: 1610083
Client Job Reference:
SAL Ref: 161008 001
Client Ref: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Type: Oil
Semi Volatile Organic Compounds Screen Method Units LOD Symbol
Nicotine GC/MS % 0.001 N 1.8
Triethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.055
Tetraethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.078
Pentaethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.040
This sample was analysed using an Agilent 6890 GC5973
MSD operated in scanning mode from 35450
m/z.
Compounds detected were subjected to a library search with results confirmed by the operator.
*Results are semi quantitative
So I get my bottle of e-juice from totally wicked and Im a little confused. The ingredients listed on this site are normally just PG, Nic, Water, Flavoring...
However my bottle reads:
Trimethylpyrazine
Tetramethylpyrazine
Methyl butyic acid
etc
etc
etc.
I've googled some of them and the first few results are saying they are USED in flavorings, but not what MAKE UP the flavoring.
What exactly are these things that I'm vaping?
Quote Imogene: Can you list the entire ingredients list?
*******************************************************
I could not post in new member's forum but below are the ingredients as listed in latest lab report from TW.
The comments that can be taken from the Material Safety Data Sheets illustrate how easy it is for anyone to build a case against the liquid on the grounds of safety by selective quoting.
That is just one reason why Intellicig have minimalised the ingredients in ECOpure and why it is tested to the highest level under normal use conditions and beyond. We do not want just a contents analysis or a report that potentially reads like the one below and we will continue to set high standards with regard to testing.
John.
Guaiacol
Guaiacol
WARNING! CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. MAY BE HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. COMBUSTIBLE LIQUID AND VAPOR.
Terpineol
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Alpha_Terpineol-9927291#search="terpineol MSDS"
Very hazardous in case of ingestion. Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of
inhalation.
butyric acid
Safety (MSDS) data for butyric acid
Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Corrosive. Extremely unpleasant smell may cause nausea. Liquid may burn skin and eyes. Readily absorbed through the skin. Severe skin, eye and respiratory irritant.
2Acetypyrazine
http://www.alkalimetals.com/msds/2-ACETYLPYRIDINE_MSDS.pdf
Emergency over view
Irritating to eyes and skin
Potential health effects:
Eye : Causes eye irritation.
Skin : Causes skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the skin.
Ingestion : May cause irritation of the digestive tract.
Inhalation : May cause respiratory tract irritation. May be harmful if inhaled.
2,5Dimethylpyrazine
http://www.convachem.com/product/strImg/msds/123-32-0.pdf
Potential Health Effects
Eye: May cause eye irritation.
Skin: May cause skin irritation. May be harmful if absorbed through the
skin.
Ingestion: Harmful if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive tract.
Inhalation: May cause respiratory tract irritation. May be harmful if inhaled.
2,3,5,6Tetramethylpyrazine
Safety (MSDS) data for tetramethylpyrazine
Harmful if swallowed. May be harmful if inhaled and in contact with skin. Respiratory irritant. Toxicology not fully investigated.
2,3,5Trimethylpyrazine
http://www.elan-chemical.com/dev/msdspdf/2,3,5 TRIMETHYL PYRAZINE.pdf
Emergency Overview
Combustible(USA). Flammable (EU). Harmful.
Harmful if swallowed. Irritating to eyes, respiratory system and skin.
Tobacco leaf oil
tobacco leaf absolute 8037-19-2
R 22 - Harmful if swallowed.
R 36/38 - Irritating to skin and eyes.
Triethylene Glycol
Triethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Diethylene_glycol-9927514
Potential Acute Health Effects: Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion,
of inhalation. The substance is toxic to blood, kidneys, the nervous system, liver.
Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
Tetraethylene Glycol
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterat...fety/pdfs/noreg/233-00373.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc
Not hazardous according to Directive 67/548/EEC.
Pentaethylene Glycol
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterat...fety/pdfs/noreg/233-00563.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc
May be harmful by inhalation, ingestion or through skin contact. May act as an irritant.
Octalactone
http://www.lansdownearomatics.com/assets/Naturals-pdf/GAMMA OCTALACTONE.pdf
INHALATION May be harmful if inhaled.
INGESTION May be harmful if swallowed.
SKIN CONTACT May cause skin irritation
EYE CONTACT May cause eye irritation.
List of ingredients based on report shown below.
*****************************************************************************
CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS
Report Number: 1610083
Date of Report:
Client: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Suite 3a Brookmill Complex
Branch Road
Lower Darwen
Lancashire
BB3 0PR
Client Contact: Mr Jason Cropper
Client Job Reference: Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid
Date Job Received at SAL: 01April2009
Date Analysis Started: 07April2009
The results reported relate to samples received at the laboratory
Opinions and interpretations expressed herein are outside the scope of UKAS accreditation
This report should not be reproduced except in full without the written approval of the laboratory
Tests covered by this certificate were conducted in accordance with SAL SOPs
Key to symbols used in this report:
W: Analysis was performed at another SAL laboratory
S: Analysis was subcontracted
N: Analysis is not UKAS accredited
U: Analysis is UKAS accredited
Report written by: C. Rodger
Laboratory Manager
Report checked R. Hare
and authorised by: Laboratory Manager (Air Division)
14th July 2009
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester. M16 9FE
Page 2 of 4
Analysis of the Content of Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid supplied by Pill Box 38 (UK) Ltd
A sample of Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid was supplied to Scientific Analysis Laboratories Limited, to
determine the percentage level of nicotine it contained and other compounds present. The sample was analysed
by Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry.
The sample supplied was a 30ml bottle of 36mg Super High eliquid.
The Nicotine level was found to be : 1.8% (w/w)
The following pages of this report, give a more detailed breakdown of the analysis and details of other
compounds found
Note: On the following pages the term LOD means Limit of Detection, this is the lowest amount of a sample that can be
detected using the technique GC/MS (Gas Chromatography Mass
Spectrometry).
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester, M16 9FE
Page 3 of 4
Supplement to Report Number: 1610083
Client Job Reference:
SAL Ref: 161008 001
Client Ref: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Type: Oil
Ingredients Method Units LOD Symbol
Tobacco essencial oil n/a % n/a N <5%
Tobacco leaf oil n/a % n/a N <5%
Nicotine (from tobacco leaf) n/a % n/a N <3%
2,3,5Trimethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2,3,5,6Tetramethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2,5Dimethylpyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2Acetypyrazine
n/a % n/a N <1%
2Methyl
butyric acid n/a % n/a N <1%
Terp ineol n/a % n/a N <1%
Ethyl maltol n/a % n/a N <1%
Guaiacol n/a % n/a N <1%
Acetyl pyridine n/a % n/a N <2%
Octalactone (gamma) n/a % n/a N <1%
Pure water n/a % n/a N <10%
Propylene Glycol n/a % n/a N >65%
Glycerol n/a % n/a N <20%
Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid
Produced by: Scientific Analysis Laboratories Ltd. Hadfield House, Hadfield Street, Manchester, M16 9FE
Page 4 of 4
Supplement to Report Number: 1610083
Client Job Reference:
SAL Ref: 161008 001
Client Ref: Pillbox 38 (UK) Ltd
Type: Oil
Semi Volatile Organic Compounds Screen Method Units LOD Symbol
Nicotine GC/MS % 0.001 N 1.8
Triethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.055
Tetraethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.078
Pentaethylene Glycol* GC/MS % 0.001 N 0.040
This sample was analysed using an Agilent 6890 GC5973
MSD operated in scanning mode from 35450
m/z.
Compounds detected were subjected to a library search with results confirmed by the operator.
*Results are semi quantitative
