I Met A Representative From Big Tobacco Today.

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loganmacallum1

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Don't really know why im sharing this, guess im just wondering if anyone else has had this experience or not. The other day I was at the local B&M and a minivan pulls into the parking lot, im friends with the shop owner so I hangout with him regularly and noticed the minivan as soon as it pulls up, the guy sits there for about 10 minutes just sitting there and writing things down, our conversation goes "Are you expecting a delivery or something?" "no why" "This dudes been sitting here for about 10 minutes just writing away" "Maybe its my first audit or something" the dude finally gets out of the van and comes in "How long have you guys been operating here?" Jon the owner says "about 7 months now, what can i help you with?" "My name is Chris with the National Tobacco (i forget exactly what he said) and I cover everywhere from statesville to asheville, im from asheville but was across the street getting some food and seen your shop, i'd never noticed it before." We live about 2 hours from asheville, I dont actually think he just stumbled upon the shop but who knows. Then he says "We're trying to get into the electronic cigarette market and have started making a brand called V2, ever heard of them?" I said, "I've seen them in gas stations a couple times, but other then that I've had no experience with them" He then says "what about the zig zag kits? Ever tried them?" "never tried one, but i've seen them once or twice" "Well that was one of our lines, the v2 is our next level model to kind of keep up with the new stuff thats coming out, I have a box of them out in my van that i can bring in to give you an idea" the dude then walks out to his van, we just kind of wait on him until he gets back then he returns with this big v2 display box "We're selling these retail for 450.00 but we can sell you three for 150 each, thats around 900 dollars of profit if you buy today" Jon says" Well i've never heard of the brand so i'd have to look into it more first" "Alright thats fine but..." then he gave this super long sales pitch about how it will be better then anything else on the market and ahead of its time with the magnetic tanks and blah blah blah, then Jon went behind the counter and pulled out this huge box and says "This takes three batteries and goes up to 240 watts, starter kits are great and all, but they will never really be ahead of the times unless you can build a sub ohm starter kit and thats not cheap" the sales rep dude then says "Alright, well im just going to leave my card, just give me a call if you decide you need any of our products" And he left, I guess the best thing that comes out of this is i can ask, has anyone ever dealt with any v2 products? How are they with reliability, battery life ect. I'd like to get back to Jon with some reviews, maybe they could be better then the regular egos and this is a good deal for the local shop.
 
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bluecat

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Well not sure if they would be considered Big Tobacco. Zig Zags are rolling papers for roll your own cigs. Looks like he was "hitting the streets". I miss those kinds of salesman.

National Tobacco Company, L.P.|Company Profile|Vault.com

Zig Zag


Or he just robbed a store and was trying to offload them as quick as possible.
 

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Also could have been he bought into some thing National Tobacco had. Spend 3,000 investment in our new vaping venture and we will give you 9,000 in product that you can mark up to 15,000. That's an XXXXX% profit margin!!!111!!.

Sales.. love it or hate, but man it is interesting.

Oh wait found it. :) A strategic partnership. Maybe they are a bit of Big Tobacco.

V2 Cigs and National Tobacco Company Announce Strategic Partnership
 

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450 for a starter kit. This will only work on the uninformed. Turn them off to the high price of ecig so they go back to smoking when there pos device fails.
I can't see anybody that uninformed to drop $450 on a vape kit. That's just ridiculous. I spent $30 on my first kit a year ago and haven't bought a pack of smokes since.
 

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I can't see anybody that uninformed to drop $450 on a vape kit. That's just ridiculous. I spent $30 on my first kit a year ago and haven't bought a pack of smokes since.

Yeah for $450 I could grab a couple more Reo's/Odins with batteries and some juice, wicking supplies to go with them. Good luck with that sale BT.
 

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I'm reading the $450 as for the full display probanly containing several units.

I figured that, too. But 400 puffs? I would be throwing one away about every two days, and even if they were $1 each, that would still be more than I spend on DIY now, so I'm out.

However, there mayyyyy be a place for certain things like this if they are good enough for the average joe to pick up when he wants to stop smoking and then get a better setup later. Most newbs aren't going to dive directly from smoking into buying expensive vaping equipment right off the bat until they can see if it's for them or not. And it's probably nice to have at least something available if some kind of disaster happened to your equipment or if you're traveling.
 
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