Just a few minutes ago I spoke with Tom, the Owner of Capella's Flavoring, in regards to whether or not Acetoin and Acetyl Proprionyl was present in some of their flavors and let him know of my concern since, as vapers, we're vaping to get away from potentially toxic chemicals; chemicals that we couldn't avoid in tobacco cigarettes. He provided me with some very interesting information during our conversation, so I wanted to drop in and share it with everyone as it represents a big move for them and for those of us who use them to flavor our e-liquids.
First off, he gave me the go-ahead to share this info now. Second, part of the information is a result of testing that Capella's is doing right this very moment. Third, this is a lot of information, so I'll apologize upfront for length, but I wanted to get it all out there. Grab a cup of coffee
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1). For those worried about whether or not Diacetyl is in their flavors, he said he would be more than happy to provide a signed statement confirming that Diacetyl is in fact not present in any of their flavors. They have done GC/MS testing on their flavors and can provide a report showcasing this on request for those concerned (similar to the one I posted for their Vanilla Custard). He said he was more than happy to do this as he understands the cause for concern.
2). Acetyl Proprionyl is in certain flavors, like the Vanilla Custard flavoring, but for those concerned, they are doing testing on % mixes at 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% and 30% to confirm the levels in the final product (i.e. meaning, a mixed e-liquid using PG and VG) and they plan on reporting said information. This means we'll be able to make a truly informed decision and we'll have a general idea of how much of the chemical will be present. I don't have a finite date on when it'll be done, but he said very soon - so I'd imagine a few months at most, a few weeks at the least. Since these flavors are used in other industries, they won't be removing it from the existing line, but.....
3). They will be soon catering to us as they are working on 7 brand new flavors, none of which contain Acetoin or Acetyl Proprionyl, and one of them is a Tobacco flavor which has supposedly been so well received that certain vendors were asking to buy it by the gallon during the blind testing. He further mentioned that they will be developing a "Version 2" of some of their more popular flavors, such as Vanilla Custard, that doesn't contain Acetoin or Acetyl Proprionyl. They'll be labeling each accordingly so we can tell the difference between the two versions.
4). They, as a company, are happy to work with AEMSA to make sure that the flavorings we use to vape are as safe as can be. That alone is a big step in the right direction and one I'm happy to hear as AEMSA is one organization on our side of the battle and one group that we need to pay attention to.
Link to AEMSA: AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association
That all being said, for those vaping Vanilla Custard, French Vanilla and other buttery flavors, Tom said that mixes that range from 5-8% flavoring to a bottle of e-liquid are in the Parts Per Billion range in terms of how much Acetyl Proprionyl is present. They're doing final testing on 10%-30% mixes and putting them through GC/MS testing, but he wanted to make it clear that it's not a concentrated dose and it's not as if you were vaping the chemical itself in it's non-diluted form.
He, like myself, also noted that many vendors are testing the flavoring itself, not the final product, which is what's actually important since that's what we're vaping; we're not vaping the flavoring straight and flavoring in general isn't meant to be used like that. He used Fluoride as an example chemical. On it's own, Fluoride is toxic and can easily kill you if ingested in its undiluted form. Yet, when it's diluted down to certain levels, it's safe and added to the water that many of us drink daily.
He said he'd have more information on what's going on in the upcoming weeks, so any information I can get, I'll definitely pass on.
First off, he gave me the go-ahead to share this info now. Second, part of the information is a result of testing that Capella's is doing right this very moment. Third, this is a lot of information, so I'll apologize upfront for length, but I wanted to get it all out there. Grab a cup of coffee
.1). For those worried about whether or not Diacetyl is in their flavors, he said he would be more than happy to provide a signed statement confirming that Diacetyl is in fact not present in any of their flavors. They have done GC/MS testing on their flavors and can provide a report showcasing this on request for those concerned (similar to the one I posted for their Vanilla Custard). He said he was more than happy to do this as he understands the cause for concern.
2). Acetyl Proprionyl is in certain flavors, like the Vanilla Custard flavoring, but for those concerned, they are doing testing on % mixes at 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% and 30% to confirm the levels in the final product (i.e. meaning, a mixed e-liquid using PG and VG) and they plan on reporting said information. This means we'll be able to make a truly informed decision and we'll have a general idea of how much of the chemical will be present. I don't have a finite date on when it'll be done, but he said very soon - so I'd imagine a few months at most, a few weeks at the least. Since these flavors are used in other industries, they won't be removing it from the existing line, but.....
3). They will be soon catering to us as they are working on 7 brand new flavors, none of which contain Acetoin or Acetyl Proprionyl, and one of them is a Tobacco flavor which has supposedly been so well received that certain vendors were asking to buy it by the gallon during the blind testing. He further mentioned that they will be developing a "Version 2" of some of their more popular flavors, such as Vanilla Custard, that doesn't contain Acetoin or Acetyl Proprionyl. They'll be labeling each accordingly so we can tell the difference between the two versions.
4). They, as a company, are happy to work with AEMSA to make sure that the flavorings we use to vape are as safe as can be. That alone is a big step in the right direction and one I'm happy to hear as AEMSA is one organization on our side of the battle and one group that we need to pay attention to.
Link to AEMSA: AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association
That all being said, for those vaping Vanilla Custard, French Vanilla and other buttery flavors, Tom said that mixes that range from 5-8% flavoring to a bottle of e-liquid are in the Parts Per Billion range in terms of how much Acetyl Proprionyl is present. They're doing final testing on 10%-30% mixes and putting them through GC/MS testing, but he wanted to make it clear that it's not a concentrated dose and it's not as if you were vaping the chemical itself in it's non-diluted form.
He, like myself, also noted that many vendors are testing the flavoring itself, not the final product, which is what's actually important since that's what we're vaping; we're not vaping the flavoring straight and flavoring in general isn't meant to be used like that. He used Fluoride as an example chemical. On it's own, Fluoride is toxic and can easily kill you if ingested in its undiluted form. Yet, when it's diluted down to certain levels, it's safe and added to the water that many of us drink daily.
He said he'd have more information on what's going on in the upcoming weeks, so any information I can get, I'll definitely pass on.
