The Document you posted is 18 Days short of being 2 Years Old. And as I understand it, was sent back to the FDA for Changes.
Do you Have/Know of anything more current?
You as well as I know that as far as any one knows whatever the officialThe Document you posted is 18 Days short of being 2 Years Old. And as I understand it, was sent back to the FDA for Changes.
Do you Have/Know of anything more current?
You as well as I know that as far as any one knows whatever the official
documentation at the OMB is right now there is no indication it is substantialy
changed from what I linked too.
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/RulesRegulationsGuidance/UCM394914.pdf
Federal Register | Deeming Tobacco Products To Be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act; Regulations on the Sale and Distribution of Tobacco Products and Required Warning Statements for Tobacco Products
Everything seems to point right back to what we have already seen.
Regards
mike
Ok,fair enough. Time for you to post the links to what is going on.Au contraire Mr. Mike.
I don't know what changes, be them Significant or Minor, have been made by the FDA? But seeing that it has been 2 Years, it is, perhaps, and Indication that they were Not Minor Tweets.
Ok,fair enough. Time for you to post the links to what is going on.
Regards
Mike
If we were as influential as premium cigar smokers we might have a chance. Money talks once again here in Ameerica.
I predict that the final reg will be nearly exactly the same as the proposed one, and it will use the option exempting premium cigars. Keep in mind that in the proposed regulations, the actual proposal isn't until section VIII, on page 109, and uses up less than 10 pages of the document's total 241 pages. The majority of those 10 pages was used up in explaining the cigar options as well as the various compliance dates. The rest of the document was justifying the rule and asking for comments that will help them justify other things they want to do, like how to apply the definition of a cigarette to vaporizers so they can apply the flavor ban to them.
The past two years have not been spent revising the regs, but in addressing all the comments. Look in the Federal Register when other final regs have been posted. There is a substantial section that addresses all the comments with a response. So, for example, there will be a section for each major comment, like "Many comments mentioned that vaping hasn't killed anyone yet. FDA's response: Not yet, but it might", and "Many commentors mentioned that vaping helped them quit smoking. FDA's response: There is no scientific proof this is true" and "Many comments worried about vaping being a youth gateway to smoking. FDA's response: Based on the on the oh-so-careful and overwhelming science they submitted, we believe them".
When they are criticized for the delay in issuing the rule, they say it's because they are addressing the unprecedented number of comments. We misunderstand mightily when we assume this means they are changing the rule based on the comments. What they actually mean is reading them all and compiling cleverly worded responses dismissing the validity of the opponent's concerns and playing up the nonsense the proponents have submitted.
Does this mean if congress changes the grandfather date that instead of everything afterI predict that the final reg will be nearly exactly the same as the proposed one, and it will use the option exempting premium cigars. Keep in mind that in the proposed regulations, the actual proposal isn't until section VIII, on page 109, and uses up less than 10 pages of the document's total 241 pages. The majority of those 10 pages was used up in explaining the cigar options as well as the various compliance dates. The rest of the document was justifying the rule and asking for comments that will help them justify other things they want to do, like how to apply the definition of a cigarette to vaporizers so they can apply the flavor ban to them.
The past two years have not been spent revising the regs, but in addressing all the comments. Look in the Federal Register when other final regs have been posted. There is a substantial section that addresses all the comments with a response. So, for example, there will be a section for each major comment, like "Many comments mentioned that vaping hasn't killed anyone yet. FDA's response: Not yet, but it might", and "Many commentors mentioned that vaping helped them quit smoking. FDA's response: There is no scientific proof this is true" and "Many comments worried about vaping being a youth gateway to smoking. FDA's response: Based on the on the oh-so-careful and overwhelming science they submitted, we believe them".
When they are criticized for the delay in issuing the rule, they say it's because they are addressing the unprecedented number of comments. We misunderstand mightily when we assume this means they are changing the rule based on the comments. What they actually mean is reading them all and compiling cleverly worded responses dismissing the validity of the opponent's concerns and playing up the nonsense the proponents have submitted.
Does this mean if congress changes the grandfather date that instead of everything after
the 2007 date there will not be pre-market hurdles so the FDA will directly regulate them
off the market?
Regards
Mike
Were we to build our own vaping industry independent from the omnipresent threat of government intrusion development of rational technical and consumer standards would flourish apace. An evolution by the industry itself is likely to be far superior and effective than anything government could conceive with it's shallow, narrow and biased understanding of what real risks are overall and what is of value to vaping consumers.
Good luck.
I'm going to stop obeying red lights when there are no other cars in sight. If enough people do likewise, they won't be able to stop us."A network of small, complicated rules. It does not break wills, but softens them. It does not tyrannize, it hinders, represses, stupefies, and finally it reduces each nation to being nothing more than a flock of timid animals, of which the government is the shepherd."
I'm going to stop obeying red lights when there are no other cars in sight. If enough people do likewise, they won't be able to stop us.
If nobody pays their fines, what are they gonna do?Good gawd man, don't you know they'll just install cameras! ??? Good luck.